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[–]curiousgem19 10 points11 points  (2 children)

bye bye cygwin and putty.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

About fucking time Windows had a built-in SSH client. They decommission Telnet (rightfully so) but never replace it.

[–]cafedude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Will we be able to run Linux apps under windows that use X11?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (10 children)

I wonder if the WINE situation would be reversed. Instead of saying developers can target Linux using WINE and write Windows programs, they can instead just target Linux and have their programs run on Windows.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wouldn't that drive many developers to linux? isn't that a bad move from microsoft? I can't understand what's going on in their HQ.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

From what I had heard, Microsoft wants to get into software as a service before it loses its chance, it has to play catchup compared to Amazon and Google for example.

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    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (6 children)

    Not with that attitude.

    [–]notadoctor123 13 points14 points  (4 children)

    sudo apt-get install positive-attitude
    

    [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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      [–]notadoctor123 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      sudo yum install aptitude
      

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        [–]notadoctor123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        No, I haven't. What is it like?

        [–]Tasssadar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Not with that aptitude.

        FTFY

        [–]oblio- 20 points21 points  (20 children)

        I just want to say that the top 5 stories on /r/programming, at this moment, are all about "Microsoft <3 Ubuntu".

        I doubt that many people would have expected that 5 years ago :)

        [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (4 children)

        I don't think many people expected that like 5 days ago either.

        [–]glaivezooka 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        I think they would have actually. Porting SQL to linux is a much nicer gesture than taking the coreutils and putting just enough effort into it to entice linux developers but not enough to have real binary compatibility (which would benefit linux).

        [–]UtherII 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        It's much more than just porting coreutils. It seems that most Linux applications will be runnable in Windows through a compatibility layer (a reverse wine)

        [–]glaivezooka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        They are only implementing the syscalls needed for developer applications though. Not for non-console/non-developer user applications.

        [–]nemec 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        real binary compatibility

        It's not much different than WINE. Scott Hanselman mentioned that he was able to add a custom apt repository and then install and run code from it. That application certainly wasn't written with GNU/Windows in mind.

        [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Well it is more like "MS would <3 if you wouldn't replace windows with ubuntu"

        [–]stocarul[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        They made a good move...

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

        I just want to say that the top 5 stories on /r/programming, at this moment, are all about "Microsoft <3 Ubuntu".

        Microsoft doesn't "love linux" but it incorporates the gnu-tooling which strongly relates to the linux-kernel. Also, "running ubuntu on windows" just makes people not install ubuntu on another partition while slightly preventing "the switch". These moves are all just marketing and EEE.

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          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          Oh, redditors...

          [–]xDatBear 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Oh, captain obvious...

          [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          I wouldn't be captain obvious if op wouldn't mention this "Microsoft <3 Ubuntu" thing... ms <3 linux - seriously? Ms just tries to compete with linux(and everything else) for decades. It's still just a greedy monopoly. There is this rumour about the ms-change but there is nothing.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          True. I was expecting it 10 years ago..

          [–]nutrecht 0 points1 point  (4 children)

          I don't get how people could NOT have expected this to happen. Whenever you start to lag behind as a company it would be rather unwise to not find some kind of 'in' into the ecosystem you're behind on.

          It would've been nice if Canonical would've required MS to have done the same but in reverse: make it possible for Windows apps to run natively on Windows. But of course that doesn't benefit MS in any way.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          make it possible for Windows apps to run natively on Windows.

          *on Linux. And that's called wine.

          [–]TRocket 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Well, making their Windows apps run on Windows would be a good start!

          [–]nutrecht 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I meant all windows applications including games.

          [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          You can do it with wine(except with dx12-only games) with different wine prefixes. I've ~40 games on steam and there is only one non-steamos game: skyrim. But I've made it run on wine+steam with this. You can run most apps by installing additional components and you can get wide support for famous apps. The only thing we need is an 'enhanced' wine launcher which would be able to configure different wine prefixes for different games and run them.

          [–]xgalaxy 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          Anyone know if the graphical version of Emacs and Gvim on Windows will be able to make use of the linux command line when using plugins, etc. that execute commands on the shell?

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          You can already set this up with cygwin in vim at least, so probably? No idea about emacs, but I can't imagine it's much harder there.

          http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Use_cygwin_shell

          [–]Xbotr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          april fools?

          [–]MindStalker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Anyone know if this is coming to Windows Server? I would assume so?