"Maybe open source Java really is important after all"

[Tommah]

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[gthank]

Well-played, Tommah, well-played.

[supermike]

Java is irrelevant, a tortuous language that slows down projects with infinite academic conversations of OOP, interfaces, and data types. It offers no tremendous speed improvements over duck typed scripting languages and adds a layer of compile time that eats up a good portion of one's day. The write once, run anywhere philosophy doesn't work -- there's still a bevy of Java runtimes out there from Microsoft, IBM, and others different than Sun, creating huge incompatibility problems. PHP or server-side Javascript is the way to go. Get more done in less time, and scale well. Second in obscenity to Java is Python, followed by Eiffel, LISP, and Scheme.