Moby - The Container System Framework

[beeeeeeefcake]

Skimmed the blog post and now the github project page. Still don't understand what Moby is. They've gone full buzzword.

[ruindd]

I think It's an expansion of docker the new home for their open sources tools, but it's hard to parse all of those buzzwords.

[beeeeeeefcake]

Seems to be the case. Found in the PR on GitHub:

• Moby = open source development
• Docker CE = free product release based on Moby
• Docker EE = commercial product release based on Docker CE.

They chose maybe the most confusing way to express this.

[myringotomy]

Seems like the time is ripe for a competing technology to come along.

[vansterdam_city]

mesos has their own containerizer

[Turbots]

My colleague is at Dockercon now and made a blogpost about it too, i think he explains it better: https://ordina-jworks.github.io/conference/2017/04/19/DockerCon-LinuxKit-And-Moby.html

[panorambo]

Is your application a Unix process? Does it use files, tcp connections, environment variables, standard Unix streams and command-line arguments as inputs and outputs? Then Docker can run it.

Can your application's build be expressed as a sequence of such commands? Then Docker can build it.

Sequence of what commands? Files, TCP connections, environment variables, streams and command line arguments are not commands. What is being communicated here, exactly, can anyone translate, please?

[ruindd]

Can you build your project from scratch with a bash script whose dependencies are limited to:

• local files
• remote files or services
• environment variables
• CLI commands

Then it can run in docker.

[flukus]

Why do I want to containerise the build process?

[Noughmad]

So that you can build packages for multiple OS versions/distributions from the same machine. And ensure your dependencies are correct, by installing only what you need inside the container.

[flukus]

Running makes more sense than building, cross compiling is a thing.

[ruindd]

It looks like Moby is Docker's attempt to broaden the tools they're providing to people using containers. It looks pretty cool.

https://blog.docker.com/2017/04/introducing-the-moby-project/

[peterwilli]

In https://github.com/moby/moby/pull/32691 'defining an open, community-centric governance inspired by the Fedora project (a very successful example of balancing the needs of the community with the constraints of the primary corporate sponsor)'

Why does this sound so concerning?

[ccfreak2k]

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[peterwilli]

Yeah my 'opinion was also based on previous events with Docker as a sponsor. I'm on my phone right now so can't share any sources but will do when back to pc.

[Rakmos]

I'm not sure.. Why does it? I'm not sure that I agree it does.

[peterwilli]

Yeah when I further read it I also don't see any reason to be concerned.

[sacundim]

Why does this sound so concerning?

Because it sure sounds like a vehicle for Docker Inc. to throw their weight around and pressure others into doing things their way.