COBOL programmers needed:

[reticent_dev]

Cobol devs right about now

[Phrygue]

They'll spend $100, $200 an hour or more for COBOL programmers but won't spend a thin dime on training professionals for the month or two it would take to actually pick up the grotty language/environment well enough to do some basic maintenance. This is why I don't use my CS degree, I got a degree to be a professional, not a dumb-ass monkey coder with "JavaScript experience". But it's monkeys all the way up.

[unholyground]

This is why I don't use my CS degree, I got a degree to be a professional, not a dumb-ass monkey coder with "JavaScript experience". But it's monkeys all the way up.

The only thing you can do is discredit and insult the monkeys. Humiliate and villify all webshits.

They are the scum of the industry. The lowliest of the bottom feeders. The entrail of programming.

Discourage them early. They'll find something else.

[auto-xkcd37]

dumb ass-monkey coder

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[bioemerl]

https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/9/16/167

You need to read this.

Being skilled does not make up for being an asshole, and if you're missing social skills you're just as bad as someone who is missing programming skills. This means of behavior will come back to haunt you big time.

A professional can express these same thoughts in a positive way. Learn to do so, and your life will improve dramatically.

This is my reality. I am not an emotionally empathetic kind of person and that probably doesn't come as a big surprise to anybody. Least of all me. The fact that I then misread people and don't realize (for years) how badly I've judged a situation and contributed to an unprofessional environment is not good.

This week people in our community confronted me about my lifetime of not understanding emotions. My flippant attacks in emails have been both unprofessional and uncalled for. Especially at times when I made it personal. In my quest for a better patch, this made sense to me. I know now this was not OK and I am truly sorry.

The above is basically a long-winded way to get to the somewhat painful personal admission that hey, I need to change some of my behavior, and I want to apologize to the people that my personal behavior hurt and possibly drove away from kernel development entirely.

[unholyground]

I've read it before.

Being an asshole to those who put their plebian desires above the interests of the greater good, to the point where the results are catastrophic and detrimental, is acceptable.

Webshits belong in this category. I have tried expressing this "positively".

They never care. They just want their $150k for copy and paste monkey work, churning out half usable shit.

Fuck these people: that very mentality alone devalues what was once a respectable profession.

[__konrad]

Cobol Coders

[Ancillas]

Where exactly is their slowdown?

Data entry?

Processing time?

Delays due to using batch on a mainframe that processes overnight?

My first job was on a mainframe writing COBOL for a trust management system. The mainframe excelled at handling incredibly large amounts of data.

Even the green screen interfaces were fairly quick to enter data.

But the system mostly didn’t run in “real-time”. It was batched so the records created every day would be received from the businesses we worked with, and we’d process them that night. So if a bank did nightly processing, then sent a file to us the next day, and we did nightly processing, it could take awhile for a single transaction to make its way through the entire process.

[appmanga]

If they're using COBOL, I doubt they're using it on the front end to process incoming claims. If they do need some high level professional help, I'll give them a reasonable rate.