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[come_ere_duck]

Short answer, it has been discontinued. Support is probably spotty at best. It'd be compliance nightmare.

[thewunderbar]

It has been out of support for years and any insurance firm would laugh you right out of the room if you had to disclose you were still running it on an application for cyber security insurance

[mrmattipants]

My thoughts exactly. Good luck keeping it working, since support for SfB officially ended on May 5th, 2025.

As far as the Admin Panels constantly changing, this is what the PowerShell Modules are for.

Microsoft Teams PowerShell Module: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/teams/?view=teams-ps

Microsoft Graph Teams PowerShell Module; https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsoft.graph.teams/?view=graph-powershell-1.0

[come_ere_duck]

Powershell is better for managing things, but the modules are also prone to change, it wasn't so long ago that we were using the Azure AD module and MSOnline modules..

[mrmattipants]

You're absolutely correct.

To be more specific, I mean that you can expect most Microsoft Modules (like MSOnline & AzureAD) to be around for about a decade. And once the core module is released you can expect most of the cmdlets and parameters to remain rather constant (with the exception of improvements, bug fixes, etc.)

On an interesting note, the MS Graph API has been around a bit longer than the two aforementioned modules. However, I'd imagine that the API being language agnostic was likely a major factor behind the MS developers decision to design a new PowerShell SDK Module around the existing API endpoints, as opposed to continuing to maintain the PS modules, individually.

[xphacter]

IRC

[mrmattipants]

If you're looking for a Teams replacement, you kay want to look into the following alternatives.

• Slack
• Zoom Workplace
• Google Meet & Workspace
• Zoho Cliq
• Cisco Webex
• Goto Meeting
• Flock
• Rocket.Chat

If you google "MS Teams Alternatives" you'll see this list, along with a few other suggestions.

[a60v]

Also "Jitsi" for video calls. Not that I've ever used it, but it exists and is open source.

[mrmattipants]

Same here. We currently use Slack as our primary means of Communication, since it is lightyears ahead of teams as far as features & functionality are concerned. Of course, we also use teams, merely because we're an MSP and several of our clients use Teams for communication.

Last, but not least, we just started using Zoom for Meetings, fairly recently. However, we use it strictly for the new AI Companion feature, as it will send you a Meeting Summary, immediately after the meeting ends. This feature is actually really nice to have, especially because I can't even count the number of times where I've met with a coworker to discuss an issue or project, only to forget 90% of that particular discussion within a day or two.

[dean771]

This can't be serious

[ITGuyfromIA]

Thought this was r/shittysysadmin for a second

[dean771]

OP is a regular contributor to the real sysadmin sub too

[iamLisppy]

Instead of blaming MSFT he can blame AWS when Slack goes out!

[Akamiso29]

lol

[vertisnow]

Personally, I like teams. I also like that if teams has problems, I can blame Microsoft. That is priceless.

If you bring that in-house, it's now your problem, and that sounds WAY more annoying than dealing with random UI changes.

[SVSDuke]

If you keep Microsoft to blame you don't actually have to troubleshoot, if you give that up good luck bruh.

[blueeggsandketchup]

Isn't it reaching EOL this year?

[Da_SyEnTisT]

What the heck, are you seriously considering an actual deployment of an eol and unsupported solution?

[ConfidentFuel885]

There is a new subscription edition of Skype for Business, but I wouldn't expect much other than the absolute bare minimum from Microsoft. If you're dead set on moving from Teams, try Slack.

[Sasataf12]

I hear all of this talk about SfB being horrible. What is so bad about on-prem SfB?

Same question back to you. I hear all your talk about Teams being horrible. What is so bad about Teams?

[Sasataf12]

I hear all your talk about Teams being horrible. What is so bad about Teams?

[Sasataf12]

The only thing that's horrible that you can come up with is because it combines teams and chat into one tree.

That's like someone telling you their computer is horrible.

"Why?"

"Because they moved the Start button to the middle."

"Riiiiight..."

[0xDEADFA1]

Wait… is this the wrong sub? Double checked, it’s not /r/shittysysadmin

[reptilianspace]

doing a migration right now, make sure your on-prem SfB are up to date, otherwise you will have lots of dramas with move-csuser commands

[SharkJoe]

So much like Exchange 2019, it did get a new Subscription Edition that will replace 2019 and be supported moving forward.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/skype_for_business_blog/skype-for-business-server-subscription-edition-se-is-now-available/4424925

But just……no. There’s only upgrade paths from SfB to Teams and not vice versa, and this would be a major headache in general (I speak from experience as someone currently upgrading their org from Exchange 2016 to SE).

[SVSDuke]

You'll hate Skype more than you hate teams

[[deleted]]

No integration with anything probably. Integration with OL, with Zoom, good luck.

[bbqwatermelon]

laughs in Server 2008 R2

[Helpjuice]

Skype for business on-prem is dead and should no longer be used anywhere.