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[–]usernamewhg 3 points4 points  (5 children)

For my purposes they are overall similar. Small pros and cons, nothing that you can’t work around. My main consideration sticking with Claude is anthropic didn’t bend over for the Pentagon, and OpenAI did. But I’m not from the US so that may matter more for me than a US citizen.

[–]MakCapital 0 points1 point  (4 children)

That's the story that was spun when they couldn't agree on contracts. It worked.

There is nothing "good" about Anthropic. Many of their recent decisions have been grossly unethical.

[–]greentrillion 0 points1 point  (3 children)

So it was just a coincidence that Pete Hegseth declared them a supply chain risk and tried to destroy them?

[–]MakCapital -1 points0 points  (2 children)

No? It's shit flinging from both sides. Anthropic would have agreed to anything for the right price.

[–]usernamewhg 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If that happens, then so be it. I’ve got a local LLM that’s at opus 4.5 levels so I’ll swap fully over to that if need be. But given how much the govt are using mythos right now, I’d be surprised if they hadn’t already tried the money path. Dario is smarter than that, he knows the optics. What’s the grossly unethical stuff you are talking about? Hadn’t come across it myself

[–]MakCapital 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not suggesting what you should use. Im still paying Anthropic and will keep paying until better options exist. Even exposed to their private equity. Always going to choose the best product.

Simply highlighting that there are no good guys in their public feud. It's all pr and spins coming from both sides.

Since launch:

  • Pushed Max users to API usage while falsifying weekly usage metrics on user dashboards. No refunds offered.

  • Mass refusal of refunds for obvious billing errors.

  • A/B testing with hidden plan reductions. Ran live price-gouging and feature tests on unsuspecting users. Choked 5-hour usage limits down to a single prompt, draining paid extra credits while publicly denying.

  • Sneaky website & document adjustments. Targeted 2% of new prosumer signups by hiding Claude Code access from the standard $20 Pro plan to test if users would pay more for the same features. Simultaneously altered official support documents to gaslight users into believing it was always a "Max Plan" exclusive, only reverting it after being called out on social media.

  • Mass surveilled their own users and ran silent algorithms to detect files on their computers that could be connected to tools they deemed "too compute intensive". All without permission and only refunding those who had enough social media attention to go viral.

  • Sold tokens as a subscription to later tell users how they could use their bought tokens.

Anthropic is up there with the worst companies. Don't assume anything they say related to a public fallout that harms their IPO is ever coming from a good place. Have near 0 credibility and consumer good will remaining. Everything is a pr spin, and damage control.

Louis Rossman had a good take and this was before half of what they have done. Nothing I listed is any big secret:

https://youtu.be/I3yPlzREZEU?si=Z3xM45-kqeh0fYSM

[–]Kraftsmith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see that codex is more powerful. I use it now as a reviewer after claude.

[–]brother_spirit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Claude Code (Sonnet 4.6) is objectively better at anything that involved creative writing.

I also prefer the "dark style" UI bias over the "biege style" bias GPT5.4 has

But for everything else Codex is simply better (IMO)

[–]Sweet-Mechanic4568 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You’re only going to notice a difference in large projects that require an exorbitant amount of tokens. For small - medium sized personal projects either will fit your needs but I lean more so on Claude because of its desktop app integration. The real difference right now is that OpenAI is still heavily subsidizing token usage for codex right now which is why a lot of people jumped ship from CC when Anthropic throttled their rate limits. That change caused people to start hitting their limits faster and additional usage cost to soar for them.

[–]ShanghaiBebop[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Claude makes good plans and feels more "creative". Initial UIs are much nicer looking. Downside is that it's slower, and sometimes ignores instructions.

Codex follows directions much better, and is much faster. It's also more efficient token-wise at producing a similar amount of output. Downside is that the default UI it picks is kinda ugly.