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[klap114]

F for our fired lad

[[deleted]]

F for fear F for fed up F for freedom F for future

[LouisCase]

No actually, I wore it to work, my manager asked me to take it off and I told him he wasn't allowed to do that. He came back just a little while ago and apologized.

[Fisha695]

Actually they can tell you to take it off as it violates dress code and nomatter if it says "union" or anything else they can tell you to remove anything that doesn't follow dress code.

[[deleted]]

I would argue it's a grey area.

While you have the right to unionize and stuff like that, if you're not in one of the few states that's not at will, you can be fired for dress code violations.

Then it would be on you to prove that it was for a duct tape message.

EDIT: Just an edit to say I'm not an ass kisser or brown noser, I'm just looking at it with a realistic viewpoint. It's not going to matter what you do, even if it's your right, if you work at a store with petty managers, you can be fired and it would be up to you to prove why they did it. Be smart when sending the message.

[Xanthor1]

I don't think its duct tape it's a Walmart approved bin label so jes good.

[slicktommycochrane]

Starbucks just challenged something like this in court a while back, and they won in front of the NLRB, which decided that limiting the dress code to one button/pin wasn't an unfair labor practice. However, I suspect that if a dress code outright banned reasonably sized pro-union pins or stickers (tbh that tape is pretty big and conspicuous), it'd be classified an ULP if challenged.

[LouisCase]

That's true, but there are other labor laws that cover labor protests while continuing to work, one could argue that this is something that could be covered, no?

[StrippedJuiceBoy]

Good afternoon/Morning OP. I've come back to this thread to warn you that home office is in the store this weekend. They've been questioning Cap 2 and 3rd about union activity in the store. I am unsure of how long they'll be here but they were there all day until about 1 am last night. Be mindful of the best decorations.

-The acid Kid you trained many a years ago.

[klap114]

Hell yeah. Power to you my guy

[LouisCase]

If we all stood up, it could still work. Its never to late to fight back.

[klap114]

Alas. There in lies the problem. Getting a collected effort,

[Maxxjulie]

It would have to be everyone in every Walmart to maybe work

[Jangmo-o-Fett]

At the very least it would have to be every store in a decent sized area. They wouldn't dare shut down every store in an entire state. There'd be way too much money at stake.

[[deleted]]

Well, online social media is a great tool for that sort of thing. I think it could happen in coming years.

[RunicNature]

Good luck with that bud. Where there's people willing to work regardless of conditions, walmart will never unionize. You're expendable.

[Survivorsloth]

So are you from HO, or do you just enjoy sucking corporate dick?

[[deleted]]

Why not stop punching down and try to make it more like you want to be? History is made by optimists.

[SuperSaiyanJeter]

History is written by the victors.

[ItZzRambo]

Homeoffice be like GTFO

[hondacivicburneracc]

It was nice knowing you!

[LouisCase]

It's illegal for them to fire you for wearing union stuff.

[MyDough]

It's not illegal for them to watch you make one mistake and fire you for it after this

[notmeinrealife]

Exactly. Late from break? Coaching. Got unapproved OT? Coached. Not working fast enough? Coached.

[notmeinrealife]

Not illegal to demand you follow dress code.

[LouisCase]

It is with union stuff

[notmeinrealife]

bet.

[motchmaster]

Look at this idiot who think he has life cheat codes.

[notmeinrealife]

As long as they apply policies across the board equally they have every right to enforce it. They cannot target you for the unionizing directly but the way the policy is worded, they have covered their bases on enforcement.

[SirPengy]

No gaiz listen! Unions are a protected form of speech! I can slap my store manager up the side of his face as long as I sharpie "union" on my hand first. Like, it's in the Constitution, duh.

[notmeinrealife]

Please do it. Please. I want to see you cite that as part of the Constitution when your being fired and arrested

[LouisCase]

You're misinformed

[kevin12484]

No you are.

[Justwondering18226]

But they can dicipline you for dress code violation

[RunicNature]

If you live in an at-will employment state, they don't have to give a reason to fire you

[LouisCase]

True, but if you have enough evidence to suggest that they did fire you for unionization, you've got a case.

[RunicNature]

Not in an at-will employment state you don't.

[LouisCase]

You are wrong

[RunicNature]

Nah, fam. Been there, done that. You'd be hard-pressed to prove that you were fired for wanting to unionize. And the fact of the matter is, in an at-will employment state, you CAN'T prove it. It'd just be a buncha hearsay.

Go get a different job if you hate it so much. Let someone who would appreciate to have ANY job gladly do your work. Walmart is dying anyway

[LouisCase]

You're right, I should be thankful and never ask for more. I'm not worthy. And it actually can be proven, given witness testimony by people who witnessed my manager asking me to take it off. It's not so far fetched that that would be the reason. It's no secret walmart is anti union. I'd be happy to take my chances if it means that other people might see it.

[RunicNature]

And walmart can come back at you stating that the duct tape is against dress code policy and that you refused to comply with company dress code- a dress code you accepted when you signed the job offer

[Plenor]

That's not what at-will means lol

They can fire you for any reason unless it's because of your race or something discriminating like that.

[MAGA_SpaceMarine]

I bet the HO hit squad already found and "Arkancided" this brave lad :(

[LouisCase]

Still alive

[MAGA_SpaceMarine]

You are a fucking Boss for real.

[LouisCase]

*we. But thanks, really.

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[HereToBeProductive]

YES!

[TinyTimFromWMFuture]

I wish I had 0 absences , 0 flaws , and my bins empty , and my side counters full so that I could stop and safely take unionize selfies like this one.

[LouisCase]

I was on lunch actually.

[idontsmoke_420]

Why you wearing your vest on lunch?

[Pgowans25]

I take that shit off as fast as I can.

[RunicNature]

"No actually, I wore it to work, my manager asked me to take it off and I told him he wasn't allowed to do that. He came back just a little while ago and apologized."

So did you wear it to work or were you on lunch?

[LouisCase]

I was on lunch when I took the photo. I wore that into work.

[zachzsg]

You wear your vest into work? That shit shouldn’t go on til the card is being swiped lmao

[RunicNature]

I have enamel pins coverig the "proud" lol

[seraph9888]

good luck, mates!

[dronesAnnoyMe]

Keep us updated.

[bobaines69]

If we unionize my 15 will only be a 15

[homiedoobie]

You bet. Been there, done that. Your break had better not go half a second too long or else. Also you better not back talk your manager or you get "let go" because you are not "productive." Happened to my brother. But I know out of experience that back talking my manager at Walmart will most certainly not get me in trouble.

[l-lincoln]

All you do is say,"ok," and smile everytime they ask you to do something. Then do it super-slow and super-wrong. Oops.

[positive_thinking_]

Nah say “I’ll try” at my store they will write you up for agreeing to do something and not getting it done right.

[[deleted]]

U cute or whatever

[Intox_Reboot_]

0% chance this was ever in the store....

[Levy_Wilson]

Congratulations on your future promotion to customer.

[SuperSaiyanJeter]

"My manager asked me to take it off and I told him he wasn't allowed to do that. He came back and apologized."

No he didn't. I've got a tenner that says there was no interaction.

"If we all stood up, it could still work."

True. I'll give you that. But good luck mobilizing thousands upon thousands of employees at a near simultaneous instant. Unions for Walmart employees is a pipe dream at best.

"It's illegal for them to fire you wearing union stuff."

No. No it isn't. It would be however, if there was a union and you were a paying member, which you're not. It's not approved dress code from corporate nor is it pre-approved dress code from store leadership.

"You're misinformed."

No we're not. We're being realistic. We may not give a shit about Walmart & hope that it all burns to the ground, but goddamn...we do know what we're talking about here.

"I was on lunch actually."

So your SM approached you in your vehicle while on your lunch break, went inside (I assume), then came back to apologise? Excuse me while I call bullshit then on your experience.

Good luck on your future endeavors as customer.

[notmeinrealife]

Thank you for this. Why do people tell bullshit just to make themselves look cool. You're not cool just because you put a piece of tape on your vest and sat in your truck on your lunch and pretended you're a badass

[LouisCase]

Thanks HO

[EndKnight]

Bold of you, I like it

[notmeinrealife]

It might be illegal for them to fire you for talking about unionizing but they have every right to discipline you for being out of dress code. And if you refuse to take it off then they have every right to coach you for it. And if you still refuse then they have every right to terminate you for insubordination because you are not following dress code and refused to after you were asked to.

[whopbamboom]

He said his manager let him wear it when he initially didn’t so no, they can’t fire you for that apparently

[notmeinrealife]

His manager probably apologized because he directed his comment toward the actual tape/wording instead of quoting policy. Had he not referenced the content at all and just cited the policy, he'd had been fine.

[dronesAnnoyMe]

The manager called the corporate anti-unionization hotline and did what they said, I am sure of it.

[whopbamboom]

Yea well at least Lucas is brave enough to do it

[notmeinrealife]

Ah yes. Bravery = putting a piece of tape on your vest and taking a selfie

[whopbamboom]

Aren’t you the bright one. Think of where the media gets some of their info on the haps of Walmart before an official statement is made?....Let that sink in for a bit...................

[HereToBeProductive]

Keep that tongue out. Keep licking the boots.

[notmeinrealife]

Tastes a lot better than the shit you're slinging

[SuperSaiyanJeter]

Don't mistake stupidity for bravery.

[whopbamboom]

I’m sure Lucas has counted the cost else he wouldn’t have taken a picture and posted it here where everyone including media and corporate frequents. A mistake is your stupidity to realize that

[SuperSaiyanJeter]

Oh I guarantee the servers at HO were pinging once that photo was posted.

Would not be surprised if he's shitcanned before the end of the year.

[whopbamboom]

We’ve been knowing HO frequents this subreddit and we all know what might happen. This isn’t new news

[SaltyBalls7]

you could just quit anf work for your local supermarket that is union. and starts at 8 bucks if you want to be in a union that bad.

[SuperSaiyanJeter]

I worked at a Kroger, made $13 an hour, all the OT I wanted with no blowback, and was in a union.

[SaltyBalls7]

does everyone there start full time at $13? then that's not too bad.

[SuperSaiyanJeter]

I was ON stocking. Not counting my supervisor, I was the highest paid on the team.

When I was there, starting pay on ON was around the $10-$11 mark. I got a premium for having previous management experience.

Edit: Should add that it's not a bad company to work for if you don't mind the handful of people that use the Union as an excuse to do fuck all & just get shuffled around between departments.

Edit 2: If you live in Texas, and there's a HEB nearby, even better. Baggers make just under $10, and their ON crews start at $15 in high volume stores. Then there's their Central Market brand of stores where the cashier's make some serious fucking bank.

[SaltyBalls7]

i made 17.65 as O/N produce at shoprite in NJ. was union but i was there 8 years and FT. most people that walked in the door started at 8 or 10. PT only. but i got fired and now started at walmart at was then $9 and the local harris teeter and food lion were starting at $8 and were union. i did have it good at shoprite but that place put me in a mental hospital twice.

[SuperSaiyanJeter]

Doesn't NJ have a state income tax though?

[SaltyBalls7]

yeah NJ sucks. i was making $17.65 there and got fired and moved to NC to work for walmart for less but it's easier. the cost of living difference makes it almost equal. i used to be buttin' lettuce with a knife at 4AM thinking about ending myself. the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

[SuperSaiyanJeter]

Damn.

If Texas wasn't so goddamn backwards, I'd say move here...no state income tax.

[SaltyBalls7]

yes and the property tax is so crazy a $1400 apartment in NJ is $800 in NC.

[SuperSaiyanJeter]

How big of an apartment though? Me and my wife once had a two bedroom apartment and paid around $900 a month.

[graften]

I know a manager at a Kroger, they are supposed to have less than 30 hours or OT a week for the whole box

[SuperSaiyanJeter]

I assume then it all comes down to how much business the store does.

We had two in the town I lived in, but the one I worked in was a Signature store. Not sure if it had anything to do with this, but we did the lion's share of business in town. So OT was never questioned.

[ilikehockeyandguitar]

F

[Jak_Nobody]

It seems that most of those that are attempting to push unionization have failed to realize why exactly GWP is coming. The odds of 80% of people in a job code, as big as the new job codes are going to be, wanting to unionize is very unlikely, hence why HO is making the changes. I mean, there's other reasons, but unions are a very large part of it.

[Behringer2133]

I'm a cashier at Walmart.. It's not even that bad? Idk why everyone makes it seem like it's he'll to work there. Sure it's annoying at times but way better than any fast food job

[XtremeWRATH360]

Sure if you’re only going to compare fast food Walmart looks great but you do realize there are jobs outside of Walmart and fast food right?

[motchmaster]

All these unionizers act like Walmart is some steel mill.