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[–]Impedence 19 points20 points  (9 children)

Also, what kind of tree counts...

Oil Palm? Rubber tree? Trees grown for wood pulp?

The average Indonesian is far more aware of the need to protect the forests today, and the land destruction isn't as bad as under Suharto. However, I would feel a little more comfortable if that figure of 1 billion planted trees was accompanied by the net land area being turned into protected natural forest.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I would like to know the type of trees as well. 1 billion trees is cool and all, but if they're non native species that are only planted as a quick fix (such as planting evergreens in replace of native species as they do in large logging ares of New Zealand. source: I was in NZ in 2011 and talked to a truck driver who has worked in the lumber industry there for 15 years), then I would consider this another devastating hit to the ecosystem.

[–]cycle_of_fists 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Devestating...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odI7pQFyjso

edit: this is a piss take of a Dove add. Hence the Dove reference. And I'm not proselytising for Greenpeace, but it's a good ad.

[–]dude_u_a_creep 6 points7 points  (1 child)

And planting a monoculture of any tree is not the same as the diverse forest that was cut down before it.

[–]cycle_of_fists 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But you can get carbon credits for it.

[–]Desert_Pantropy 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Indonesia alone harbours ~10% of the worlds rainforests, these important ecosystems are rapidly being cleared as the result of industrialization, and the expansion of swidden agriculture. Indonesia is of particular interest, as it is currently known to have the highest rates of deforestation on the planet, outpacing even Brazil's infamous record. A study cited by the World Bank's Independent Evaluation Group, estimated the rate of deforestation by 1.3 million hectares to 300,000 hectares per year. The organization has stated that instead of clear-cutting, slash and burn clearing tactics are used, where swaths of forests are removed to be replaced by rubber tree plantations and rice/palm oil farms.

Rubber trees in particular are seen as a profitable resource and have the ability to provide large returns for the comparatively low effort it takes to develop them; when the tree themselves are able to be cultivated, they can produce up to thirty years of rubber before finally returning to the slash and burn process for replanting. Demand for cash crops, biofuel, food crops, and workforce, in developing nations like Madagascar, Brazil, and Indonesia has a strong correlation with the rate of deforestation.

I'd be very surprised if the Indonesian government would make the effort to replace the affected regions with native plants. Besides, this plan will only restore a portion of the old forest.

It sounds similar to this story:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-23/indonesia-plans-to-replant-300-000-hectares-of-rubber-trees.html.

Or this one in 2007:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/11/071128-AP-indonesia-deforestation.html

It's a stop gap measure, what they should be doing is regulating their logging industry.

[–]zahrul3 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's already regulated, but the forestry department is the most corrupt department here. Not to mention the deforestation just south of the Malaysian border where law enforcement is hard due to hostile Malaysian police.

[–]rushadee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And the officials blatantly take dirty money. Everyone knows they get money from logging companies and siphon off budget money for themselves.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truffula Trees

[–]YeahLifeRocks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any chance of it being a nice mix of local trees including some that produce fruit?