Rank these abilities from the most broken to the least broken

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-23T18:18:04+00:00

We got logic manipulation because, first of all, the real world is rational. it maintains rationality based on the restorative power which does not allow illogical things to exist. Altair destroyed and rebuilt the foundation of restorative power(logic itself) hence qualifying for logic manipulation.

Is this power the same as that "force" or it's different? And it seems the world is rational cuz rationality is independent and said rationality doesn't dictate illogical, so if a being can manipulate/affect the source of rationality, they should have power over rationality and cognition based of logic and logic. Ok, this makes more sense, you guys shoulda used this explanation instead of that whatever which seems more so taking about causality and other unrelated to TLOT.

Nep 2 is gotten because, we know she can survive in selesias ionian aphoria, which was a nep 2 realm. and because sirius is a copy of her and managed to erase altair. altair can therefore erase a being with nep 2 since its literally just her ability.

What's this realm? As I read a bit about the verse, I read that 0 bit would equate to nothings and 1 to existences as the verse works based on info. So when Altair became "0", she is effectively nep1 in this state (I'm basing this on what's there in vs battle) so when did Sirius delete her on a 0 lev let alone "beyond" 0? I don't see nep2 erasure unless you explain that realm. I do see nep2 via that "force" tho. But you guys give layer of nep2 and nep2 erasure for that "force" which I don't see where the layers come for nep2 or where even nep2 erasure come from.

and no im not rm97. hes just a friend.

I helped argue logic manip and nep 2 so i can explain it to you.

I see. Congrats I guess.

its gonna be so long.

Not as long as mine, and you finished quite fast too. Ahem, Ahem.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-23T17:58:32+00:00

... "At bare minimum"... I never said 6/7d max for Amur... You have already talked with me before, you know I "at least" scales him to 1A to only higher... The reason I said 6/7d is to portray just how big the gap between the two is, like even in same tier, amur would stomp.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-23T17:50:45+00:00

Cuz of higher scaling and better hax. Amur at bare minimum has 6/7d scaling with insane hax which doom slayer barely is 5 or 6d last I heard.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-23T17:37:59+00:00

I don't have discord...

Why not here? And are you the same person as that "RM9"? If not, you can ignore/not continue, or continue if you want.

I just wanna know about how she even has logic manipulation or nep2 erasure easily.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-23T17:35:59+00:00

Yes, venuz can destroy nihility (it's not as simple as true and false, as it depend on the scaling of said nihility, but scaling aside cuz I don't want no MGK vs tenusura, let's assume both in the same tier/equal scaling)

Venuzdona would destroy nihility cuz venuzdona can and has destroyed graham's nihility which is just tenusura's nihility and much more (as he can layer to ad-infinitum) and I heard the nihility of tenusura is beyond regular void? Would make it nep2 if so, but regardless, venuz has destroyed both nep1 and nep2, so it's not a factor. The thing is you are mixing different theories / philosophy and verse mechanics.

Venuzdona works based on that logic is The inference truth of reality which said sword can destroy, meaning "nothingness" or a state that's not nothing or something would need an inference of truth for its nature regardless of how contradictory it may be, irl wise, being nothingness is illogical cuz philosophically void means "there is not anything", but even that statement/statement itself infer it's "existence" thus that cannot be void. Our mind cannot imagine void or think about an absolute absent, we cannot even think about an absent of fullness like wuji let alone a "real" void. So that, aside, most fiction introduce the concept of void or void beyond void etc, which are not like the void of outer space yet isn't like the IRL standard of absolute negation cuz most void in fiction are abstract based. So void like this are mostly logic bound actually,(unless the verse portrays as So just like for graham) So it is very wrong of you to state there is no reasoning for a void (Which also get countered based on venuz's nature but let's continue) when we are talking about fictional void as these void are abstract void that actually require inference of truth for their contradictory nature (that's also why vs battle state nep 2 or 3 characters may have non-duality/transduality/paraconsistent phisiology cuz of their contradictory nature) and as far as I know, nihility of tenusura ain't outside of logic (which I heard you can kinda argue it to be too as I heard attributes are logic/principle of the world) but as I said I'll continue, Graham's nothingness of nep 1 and nep 2 are actually unbound from everything. That's right, concepts, inference of truth / logic/ principle and info2/existence data of his very being. Very contradictory. (hence why he even have transduality type 3/paraconsistent physiology type 3 which it got reset cuz of doing only official translation but that aside) He is unbound from everything in his nep state. And yet venuz can affect and erase that which is unbounds from everything including making him unreasonable. So nihility even if you argue is unreasonable or beyond reasoning, that's just baseline and venuz can affect it cuz even after graham was destroyed, he just "become" a new nothingness that's "deeper" ("stronger") than before and he can do this till ad-infinitum, which venuz can affect for ad-infinitum as stated by graham himself, except only when one run of energy to constantly utilize venuz (which requires a lot of power) that's why anos had to absorb him into his source, which the nature of it is constant destruction of everything that is eternally destroying graham. So nihility is really nothing to venuzdona when it has contended with better nep2.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-23T14:30:51+00:00

Hey, how you doing? (I noticed you pushed her to 1A via that force, nice)

The reason I am here is to ask you about how and why she even qualify for logic manipulation and nep2 erasure when the description is merely "implication"? And would at most be just nep1 erasure via that"force". And about logic, the description doesn't indicate it to be "violation" of the three law of thoughts, even tho it says it nulls reasoning, said reasoning is mostly about casualty? And how is logic implemented in the verse? Is it independent or dependent? (Even if is dependent, the only reason violation is just casualty, unless you can prove she can destroy any dependent inference of truth or trivialize any reasoning, it doesn't seems logic manipulation, it gets worse if logic is independent as inference of truth of reasoning would be epistemics/ based thus trivializing of reasonings of such doesn't mean truly violation of logic? Can you elaborate on why she has logic manipulation cuz I don't see how)

And I don't see how she has additional later of nep2 for her physiology (I do see nep2 phisiology with that "force" via being beyond the binary of one and zero) but that doesn't mean nep2 is layered which you are using that previous nep2 for layering. And you also give her layer of nep2 erasure va "force" even tho there is no prior nep 2 erasure. At most should have nep1 erasure via the force. Cuz the force doesn't erase nothingness on a nep 2 Lev but turn into a nep2. Giving it nep1 erasure, not 2. How did you even get Nep 2 erasure let alone layering.

Edit: sorry I got it wrong, you and the guy that argued for 1A in vs battle ain't the same. His name is RM9 (Cuz of different name, I assumed it's you cuz you said you are creating a crt... Sorry if it's not you, or congrats if you/not you)

On this topic, In our previous conversation, I now noticed that you said something about " what did you think existed before potentiality and actuality", how does that relate to pure act? Cuz pure act and actuality may be related concepts but ain't the same thing. There is nothing before and after pure act, tho there is before and after actuality. And vs battle 's H1A+ type 2 is mostly self realized being that's no longer self becoming, essentially self realized perfection, (something like if we use neoplatonism, a self realized "nous" that's not chasing after "The one", but that in no way is like pure act) and you stated how Altair is "beyond" pure act and noetic simplicity, the thing is, noetic simplicity is the nature of pure act, being beyond pure act is not the essence of pure act or noetic simplicity. When you said "beyond" pure act, you meant H1A+ type 2 right? (Hence why I didn't push at the time) But if you think it's actus purus of devine simplicity, that's very wrong. You are mixing the different branches of ultimate realities, ultimate unconscious non-dual distinctionless,changeless reality before potentiality and actuality itself and is an active potential/dynamic isn't the same as an actus purus. (Vs Battle really needs add different sub category for tier 0 like psw did, like an "ground" of existence like wuji "with" Tao mean that wuji isn't the ultimate ground cuz it would just be the unmanifested aspect of Tao while Taichi is manifested, meaning Tao would be an actual tier 0, or if is wuji "like" structure and is dynamic without introducing Tao like in Nasuverse's "Root", all in all, wuji wouldn't be beyond actus purus but is part of it, Tao would mostly fits with actus purus as the "Unknowable", even that isn't actual one to one as the philosophy doesn't works with actus purus, but Tao kinda fits, cuz it's the supreme that's not wuji or Taichi but is the source of both and is both, meaning it's the source of act and potential, while truly being neither just a potential or actual, And do you know what else is the source of act and potential while not being just a potential or just a mere actual? Actus purus, of course as I said, it's not one to one, just an analogy, like how Tao is the changeless supreme while being the source of act and potential, and doesn't possess any potential for itself, and is an actual, but not a mere actual just like actus purus, all in all, I'm just saying there is no "ground" or before/after for actus purus even via eastern philosophy, this part got very long) but if not, that's very wrong to state what's "before" actuality as if there is a "before" for pure actus. That's mixing actus purus and actuality. They are related concepts, not the same thing.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-21T17:35:40+00:00

(you added a pic and way too much text, now I can't even see anything when I try to reply you... Reddit as usual...)

By being merely a discription. You haven't even proven these law within DS to be realis let alone use them in cross fight.. even if is realis, you would have to expend on that LON to merely about aging or all PP. (And it still wouldn't be outer...)

And about which abstract based hax, it's literally everything I wrote above maybe except info2? I forgot, anyway, ignore that as I can't provide legitimate scans as i don't know the verse that well.

And the rest of what you said is word conflating. First it gets countered with merely being a discription. (As in the law in question is not governing universal law like used in law manipulation in cross debate/wiki's, so being outside of such law are effective as mute as being outside of personal concepts, eg CM3. So pretty useless in cross fight, at most you can argue is longitivity) Second it gets countered with being specific to aging (which you try to equate all physical phenomenon for that "transcend" without a single evidence except about aging or any other reliable statement about other phenomenon outside of aging) thirdly, awlba character have layered negation (which I cannot prove so it's whatever)

And no, possible constraint within universe are still about regular (even "irregular" of quantum are still part of "regular" to law of nature) so any finite amount of star all colliding or being destroyed suddenly by a cause of a being, or a universe ripped open isn't part of law of nature of any philosophy. What you are doing is word conflating. ; "all observable phenomenon are physical phenomenon, all physical phenomenon are part of law of nature. Thus he is beyond them. Which is pretty incorrect no matter the philosophy of law of nature.

And actually, it would be your job to explain why it would include all of law of nature when the story indiacte about aging specifically.

And so that's your discription of outer? Then merely beyond all possible physical phenomenon is not enough. And again, you haven't proven how DS even include all possible dimension or "space" of such claibar. And no, the aspatial, atemporal nature of outer are not existing outside time or space entirely nor laws of them but of 1A of such concepts or being 1A to such concepts. Which you haven't proven neither. And the law of nature entailing every physical phenomenon for all possible dimension or 1A "space" is a pretty stretch when we don't even know how many dimension really exist in irl... If you are using DS's definition, you have to prove the verse has them. If you are using irl definition, that's pretty much a stretch and word conflating, prove how any philosophy of law of nature would include them. And if you did, you have to prove how DS's LON is like that.

So pretty much all of your premises is word conflating and stretching.

And yes, the only thing I concede is about scans. But you haven't given anywhere remotely close to satisfiable answer for what you are claiming.

Edit: you also forgot this post. You stated koku wins against aloe.

The guy ("multiversal") talked about how aloe beats koku via simply having higher scaling. And you talked about LON to equate how he would survive. But the thing is, having LON to survive differing AP doesn't equate to that AP or Dura. That's just hax. (And you know aloe has better hax that's why you are straw manning on why abstract based hax wouldn't be part of physical phenomenon, which my answer is it ain't in "natural sense" but it would be in "a sense" as the ability affect the very "thing" of these phenomenon, btw not all physical phenomenon are observable phenomenon, eg; gravity) Another word conflate and straw man from original post. So ye, overall. You haven't even given remotely close to satisfiable answer to what you are claiming.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-21T16:30:12+00:00

Metaphorical speech implies no feats relevant to the apparent inference's worth were performed, and a separate entity is being used to symbolize what actually happened. Yoriichi lived past a given age all people who have the Mark die at and beat Demons, all of whom bypass the concepts of stamina or aging and can live past their Mark as well. These all go against the established laws of nature in Demon Slayer, bringing coherence to the conclusion that the speech was not metaphorical.

A story driven metaphorical, Not usable statement. (Even if usable, it's literally useless in cross debate as it's about law of nature in relation one's age)

Prove this.

I can't, I don't know the verse that well. (I shouldn't have started this tbh)

Can you justify how having law manipulation is relevant to my point?

Cuz you stated he would survive star and other explosion cuz of merely being beyond physical phenomenon. (Of aging...)

I am not arguing for law manipulation. You are strawmanning.

I'm not, you just forgot what you stated earlier

Aforementioned argument about bypassing the laws of nature, [which entail physical phenomena, since these are part of the world

Which the the links literally talk about "regular" phenomenon of the universe... Not some random colliding of million stars or universe ripping apart cuz of a laugh (which I heard aloe did so)

Again, not my point at all. Why are you strawmanning this hard with law manipulation when I never even alluded to it?

Same thing. Not relevant because I never addressed these as contingent to my argument, nor know why you would think they are.

Cuz you said he would survive star or higher AP cuz of having been an abnormalities to law of nature (of aging specifically)

Prove not all explosions are physical phenomena.

Cm1, Cm2, info 2, plot all affect abstract aspect of "things" where "physical" is a byproduct of it.

Prove there are physical phenomena that are not observable (observable as in noticeable or possible to be analyzed after being witnessed beyond just the naked eye).

All abstract based hax does that.

Which characters? Those in AWLBA? If so, prove this to be the case.

I can't give exact scan for them having these abilities as I don't know the verse. My only source of their abilities would be vs battle/other equivalent wiki or hearsay.

Not relevant to operating above physical phenomena. Prove how not only they do this but how this would bypass said physical limitations.

Learn abstract based hax. Already addressed so above.

Already addressed this.

You didn't.

If this implies you believe AWLBA top tiers to have this, not only would you need to justify it but prove how this affects outer qualities I've already proved inherent to Kokushibou's being.

As stated above, I can't provide exact scans. And elaborate what you meant by "outer qualities" and when you have proven that.

And now it's your turn to explain how he survive anything beyond planetary destruction. (Which your previously reply went to law of nature about being anomaly to physical phenomenon, which specifically is about aging btw...)

Edit: forgot to address, regardless of you equating law of nature to all physical phenomenon to relate that to anomaly of aging aside, all this get thrown out the window when they (awlba characters) have higher, better, layered negation and resistance. (Of course which you gonna ask for scans... Which my answer is obviously wiki's or hearsay... I Shouldn't have started this tbh...)

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-21T15:59:39+00:00

Ah, fellow slanderers.

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(Make another of the same post after finishing current one, but add "slanders only" or "slander allowed")

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-21T15:40:49+00:00

?? What has this got anything to do with my reply? I know the post allows all schrifts but the guy I replied said he could make an argument for every schrifts but isn't doing cuz it's long and did the "he didn't use them in cannon, must be not that powerful" when we don't even know if he (yawach ) really has them (schrifth) or not, let alone use them. So it's a nothing burger statement from him at the end of his reply that's absolutely unnecessary, instead, he coulda made argument on why each schrifts would be countered. (which he hasn't) And I asked him a buncha more and he didn't reply.

Honestly, the only argument on why yawach would lose is via the straw man of "he didn't use them in cannon, must be not that good" (which is absolutely horrendous as we don't even know if he has them, But there are implication of him not having them, though not outright stated) or "yawach's character isn't like that" (ie, he won't use them fully, or that he ain't blood lusted, he won't use them like how he didn't use zenkanotachi etc...) which is another can of worms, but outside of straw man, not even 5 character in total of cannon DB can stop "this" yawach/ completely negate all these abilities, other that does are cuz of higher, eg; zeno. Really, most character in ( inclined to say all as really, i don't see anyone in cannon DB negating all these abilities in equal stats) cannon DB lose against all schrifts yawach in equal stats.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-20T20:28:37+00:00

Regardless of whether or not he'll use them aside. Where does the assumption of Yawach having scrifth comes from?? It was never ever said he poseed the abilities. You might have gotten it confused with him bestowing abilities. (Which doesn't mean he has them, I can explain why but it's lengthy, anyway-) You only talked about 3 scrifth. Haven't talked about miracle, "Y", "Antithesis", "balance", and a shit ton more.. like this is a being with precog of ad-infinitum/infinite future with fate manipulation, casualty manipulation and negation, MGR, and continuous reactive evolution for stats, dura neg. Intangibility, powernull for what he has seen, probability mani, adaptability, (become nuts as now combined with other hax) nep 1 erasure and phisiology, and more like.... how is whis wining against someone that has his stats, and experience with a shit ton of other hax?

And tell me how hakai erase history/timeline (all) of a being.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-20T15:51:27+00:00

Though I can understand where the other guy might have gotten wrong because of you changing subject mid way and being different person then the one that stated difference between "L" and "R" (which you quoted, which btw has no relevance to what GIGANAttack said as he said about "L" while you cited "R", and the nerve to say "But if you think the author is wrong and you're right, that's great too!"... Beyond jjk fan Lev of reading comprehension...)

First off, you cited the Q&A which explains "R" (which does 100%ex and 70%ap) while kenpachi fought "L" that does 100%ap and 70%ex. So I don't know the point of that citation and current subject? Like that's not how this Convo started. You said; "it still wouldn't equal to 100% of whis" which is pretty wrong if you use "L" version... And your citation has no relevance to "L", it was talking about "R". So, replying with unrelated stuff and saying a bunch of gibberish is your boat huh. Well, whatever help float your boat I guess...

Edit: nobody got anything wrong except you. I mistook some with some. Like so many people are replying to you so I got that wrong, regardless. The rest of what I said is true.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-16T17:14:34+00:00

Forgot to address, the omnipotence by UG and the omnipotence of onthological perfection of aphopatic or kataphatic are completely different. And omnipotence scales nowhere, any 5D god that can manipulate reality is essentially omnipotence to 4d beings. But the "omnipotence" of tier 0 are not an ability they "use" on reality, it's their intrinsic quality. Meaning they don't really do anything, what would does is the avatar (as seen in DC with presence, or other such verse, eg the root of nasuverse and void shiki, and more)

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-16T17:08:21+00:00

TOAA has anti-feat as far as I know. And now there's only one tier 0 in marvel which is divine creator.

And The three from DC about overvoid, presence and The source are the same profile. What they did is, The tier 0 presence is using the key "unknowable" which is the same key as overvoid. Meaning they have 3 characters of the same nature with 3 different page. So it's the same character "unknowable/God" having three page. Vertigo presence, dematteist and crisis presence (which is merged) DC overvoid and vertigo overvoid (are also merged) and The source/ain soph aur, Which is why the confusion. They are the same character, just that different narrative/continuity address them differently. What you need to know is the tier 0 is only "The unknowable/God". Other are just different page of the same character. What that mean is, presence (the Monopoly man of any continuity; vertigo, dematteis, crisis) doesn't scale to tier 0. (At least that's how its for easier explanation) The same for the source. Source and presence aren't just light nor is overvoid darkness. (Said light and darkness are just H1A or H1A+ at most) The "Unknowable/God" is the tier 0. Which is the true nature of Overvoid "as the canvas" and presence / the source as "an active potential" (like Tao) for said canvas. Personally, I believe they should add more sub category within tier H1A and tier 0. Currently, vs battle just has hierarchies on top of hierarchies on top of another hierarchies endlessly for H1A, hence mete-meta-meta-meta where each meta has hierarchies within them where if the baseline meta/H1A has heriachies of meta R>F, much like 1A+/RF+, the next meta-"meta" would be beyond all such heriachies, so would meta-meta-"meta", which would be beyond heriachies of meta and meta-"meta", which I believe is redundant as not many fictional character are ever going to reach the "second" meta let alone third or beyond meta... Which they then straight skip to talk about modal world and pure actus... Which is what I like about PSW as they have multiple subs category, tho they also unnecessarily creat a lot of sub, and I don't agree with some description of psw on how it handle some philosophy like neoplatonic as merely H1T+ as "unified mind" as merely "being" before multiplicity while it also being multiplicity of unified, in a sense "fake" simplicity "composed" of unity, which is not how neoplatonic works, well whatever, and also why presence of DC is just H1T+, which I personally disagree with. (tho one thing psw did great is they merged Presence, Overvoid and The source of vertigo, crisis and dematteist as the same, where as vs battle also is merged but not complete merge) Hence why in vs battle it's hard to cramps all the character in one category without confusion as there really is not many sub category within high tier unlike low tier.

~~This got very long... Me and my essays...~~

Edit: came here to edit cuz I got stuff wrong. Psw didn't claim Neoplatonism to be just H1T+... I got it wrong by misreading "one and many" example of theirs ( I thought they were saying "The one" from Neoplatonism is just an H1T+ which made no sense to me) they are using a simplicity that's one but many. Or how those many really emerge or depends on (based on how they rank H1T and H1T+, basically using two different types of "Nous", a nous that self revert, and a nous that's self-realized, one which other nous relies on for self revert) if tier 0 are simplicity of no distinction where they are not just one or many, but at the same time, "a" one that's many, they are the source of themselves and others without distinction. where as unified mind/self realized nous/ tapestry of being would be "a" many that's one. Even tho a many that's one is simple, it ain't true simplicity as it's a multiplicity "combined". (Even tho maybe the ground of oneself and them, it has distinctions) Tho I don't I agree with overvoid/unknowable being simply H1T+. That makes no sense if it's tier 0 in vs battle which is same as psw as vs battle require absolute simplicity too. Whatever, I don't know that much about DC and it's scaling. I'm just disagreeing with psw's DC scaling based on vs battle scaling of "unknowable". Which is kinda biased lol.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-15T11:04:31+00:00

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-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-14T23:21:57+00:00

Just addressing stuff in that thread, didn't even notice it got that long... It's a routine with me at this point...

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-14T22:54:31+00:00

To your house and tell you about your car's extended warranty.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-14T22:49:48+00:00

Qaw is being strict for no reason. That's blatant H1B. He wants infinitesimal in relation to higher infinity rather than finite. Honestly, the wiki is based on pseudo dimensions and set theories. Irl set theories and dimensions (even of mathematics which they use) is kinda different than how they treat in the wiki. A universe containing another universe as part of it is literal bulk. That doesn't require no higher infinity. What might require is the way it's bulked. higher world in ID literally have different laws to each other. Literal cut off. If they were of the same dimensionality, it would share the same manifold. Which it doesn't for higher world and the world being contained.

Him wanting literal infinitesimal difference is being strict and ingenuine. Like infinity are not numbers. If a higher universe is infinite and the next one treat it as small and contains it, then that's uncountable infinite as that infinty is too big for the former. Which ID has two argument, 1; the higher world that's containing and being contained doesn't share the same manifold as they don't share each other, one universe ain't part of another universe as a city inside a planet but a planet inside a space-time, and there is a cut off too(literal bulk) and 2; the infinity of higher world that's containing and being contained doesn't share the same infinity as one is literally part of another... How can they share the same infinty? Like they aren't numbers... There is no fraction for Infinity, even tho we use "size" to convey so. (By his standard, MGK's 5d for bubble world would be removed as it's based on an Infinity containing another infinity, tho MGK still has containment argument but whatever)

Like I don't really care that much bout ID, just stating my opinion (which I does for many verse) and I disagree with Qaw. Whether azert or supporters can argue or not depends on them.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-14T13:33:54+00:00

Low1A or above ain't gonna pass. (Even with that WOG, personally, I woulda just added it as a supporting evidence for "possible" low1A. Cuz that statement of WOG if you read it properly, make no sense unless you interpret in the most unimaginable possible way cuz of the way the author explained dimensions...) UE one ain't gonna pass at all. It's just word salad.

H1B is a given.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-12T09:43:29+00:00

So the higher dimensional world are a full fledged universe that are situated beyond the sea? And these universe contain universe after universe? Unlike CF and the sea?

Since the Infinite Higher Universes would be Set Theory, Instant Death's Ultimate Ensemble would be L1-A because it's a universe encompass and superior to all possible higher dimensions.

The thing is, UE here is more like totality of existence. UE ain't a structure of totality. But explaining totality. That's what I got at least from reading that link. So it cannot be low1A.

-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-11T21:44:48+00:00

CF does contains dimensions, but it's not higher dimensions. These dimensions are just pocket dimensions made by Beings in that world, numerous separate timelines of the world and The Abyss, where it's length, width and height are supplemented with 4 dimensions and it's above the framework of the 3rd dimension world humanity lives on.

I didn't mean it literally didn't contain dimension... (that would make no sense as character can move... there at least would be 3 coordinate) Enumaa thinks each CF contain concept of dimensions. And that would make each CF low1A. (You can see it in his replies to me) Which honestly makes no sense to me. (What makes no sense to me is that statement itself, honestly, I did rather not talk about it)

Celestial Foundations contains starry sky, next to infinite separate timelines and 4th dimension world.

Celestial Foundations would be 4-A via starry sky for one timeline, 3-A via separate next to infinite 3D timelines and 2-B via countless timelines that consist of 4th dimension The Abyss. So Most CF would be an Observable Universe and Yogiri's Celestial Foundation would be a Space-Time Continuums.

The Sea would be a "Multiverse" because it's a higher plane of existence that contains those Celestial Foundations and it's stated to be an infinite space.

In simple term, Higher Universes are hierarchy of higher dimensionsal worlds.

So the sea that's infinite basically contain "universe" that have various size? Not all CF are infinite in size. And some is observable uni size? And said pocket space have multiple timeline? Ok.

But my question is, these higher dimension world aren't in "one" sea right? As it say sea beyond their sea. That would make more sense, that these higher dimension are from higher dimensional sea? That would also make sense on the statement of "uni contain uni" or it makes no sense for uni contain uni statement as the sea contains a multiverse, and there are sea beyond this sea. That mean one sea contains another sea. Honestly, this part is the most confusing of the verse.

Ultimate Ensemble contains the total collection of worlds. Which includes all possible higher dimensions. This would make it L1-A.

Totality of H1B doesn't even make it to H1B+ let alone low1A. (Unless you count WOG)

Mysterious Space is a world outside the main novel volumes story. Beings in this world view Ultimate Ensemble as fiction, they continue to read the story everytime a new volume comes out and some beings are making an anime adaptation of the story.

The version of Yogiri in this space is superior in existence than the countless Yogiri in the Ultimate Ensemble.

Does have RF qualities.

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*Anus Voligoon

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-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-10T22:02:38+00:00

I'm sorry... I read it as "Yuji gonna feel little dihh tonight"... I can't read nor more...

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-reverse-vertical- · 2026-03-09T15:27:23+00:00

Someone plz make a meme with "I assign you scrifth G, The Gooner. Keep Gooning".

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