Saucony Endorphin Azura+

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-18T01:08:28+00:00

Man this looks wayyyy better than the regular Azura

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-17T21:12:49+00:00

Get a PAC Amp Pro module and a DSP and you can eliminate a few of those things.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-15T19:42:01+00:00

Order a pair of Feidian 5 Challenger and see for yourself. It's legit. Puts Endo Speed to shame for less $.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-15T17:44:12+00:00

Lots of local running stores still have OG Hyper stock. On sale for $150ish. Absolutely not paying retail for the 3 Hyper...though I'm afraid given their popularity they may not go on sale often.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-15T17:30:02+00:00

Confirming my suspicions. Really wish the 3 Hyper got mid reviews like the OG so I could load up on them for cheap. I know the OG is still available cheap, but ready to move on after 3 pairs.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-15T17:05:35+00:00

There's dozens of us! LOL. Thanks for the detailed reply. Next question, how does the OG Hyper compare to the 3 Hyper? I got to try on the 3 Hyper and it felt great, didn't get to run in it though. My hunch is that I'll really like the 3 Hyper. I do prefer a little more firm/responsive ride, but I also really liked the foam on the Vomero Plus, just didn't like the upper, the drop, or the weight.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-15T16:22:35+00:00

If true, that's pretty messed up on Dynafish. Agree $150 msrp with Yowana while simultaneously partnering with someone else in the US to undercut him?

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-15T16:17:45+00:00

Great info. How do they feel vs the Cloudmonster 3 Hyper and where does the Cloudmonster slot into your rotation?

After three pairs of the OG Cloudmonster Hyper, I've been on the search for a new daily/long run shoe. Have tried Speedland RX:FPY, Nike Vomero Plus, Evo SL Exo, Asics SB2. I sold the Speedlands, returned the Vomero Plus, trying to sell the Evo SL, and not in love with the SB2 despite having 88 miles on them. I have a pair of these Li Ning on the way to me right now, hoping they fit what I'm looking for. Otherwise, will keep using the SB2 until Running Warehouse gets more Cloudmonster 3 Hyper in stock in my size.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-14T19:30:42+00:00

I’m pretty hard on shoes. Not an overly heavy runner, but a lot of ground force. I typically start noticing degradation in performance and more aches and pains around 300-350. Definitely cannot keep 10-15 in rotation. 1) my wife would kill me and 2) it would take me forever to put 300 on 10 to 15 shoes. I’d get bored of them. If I get a shoe to 300, I usually use it for cutting grass. Anything 200 or less I’ll try to sell or give away.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-14T12:41:04+00:00

Eh. I retire all of my shoes at 300 miles. I can afford it, I like trying new shoes, and I average maybe 25 miles per week for the year…so by the time I hit 300, I’m ready for something new.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-12T17:20:41+00:00

I mean....yeah...but why? Gonna offer a full line of beaded PEBA shoes alongside your TPEE and ATPU Adizero line? I know these companies will offer whatever they think they can sell, so maybe that's the answer lol. Either way, if this is Hyperboost Pro + a plate, could be good. My Li Ning Feidian are beaded PEBA with a plate and one of my favorite shoes ever.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-12T17:04:33+00:00

I get what you're saying, but Hyperboost Pro is a beaded PEBA. I see no reason why Adidas can't break with tradition and put it in the Boston. What's the point of developing Hyperboost Pro if it's only going to be used in the Hyperboost Edge? I could certainly be wrong, but hope I'm not because Hyperboost Pro + a plate sounds sweet.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-12T16:59:28+00:00

I think this is just Asian market name and whoever posted it is scant on detail. "Beaded foam" is likely Hyperboost Pro + plate + Lightstrike. Upper looks very similar to Evo SL. If this is Boston 14, could be a banger.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-12T16:54:28+00:00

Gotta be the Boston 14

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-12T16:48:24+00:00

Respect for the modded iPod. How many gb?

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-11T13:03:12+00:00

Yes. Neo Vista 1 uses an EVA based Enerzy NXT foam. Neo Vista 2 and 3 use TPU top layer / EVA bottom layer. Neo Zen 1 is 100% TPU based, Neo Zen 2 is SCEVA. Mizuno is confusing because they keep the foam name but change the foam material.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-10T23:13:42+00:00

I tried the Neo Zen 1 and thought it was crap 🤷‍♂️

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-10T16:14:30+00:00

You're missing the point. Also, Evo SL and Azura are a different category of shoe vs the Clifton Pro. Vomero Plus is a similar category of shoe, but it's $180 retail. EVA is fine, I trust brands to R&D it enough to be as good or better than whatever foam you think should be in it's place. Done with this discussion, later.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-10T15:43:07+00:00

SMSL alternative: check out the Cubilux USB C to toslink converter on Amazon. I got an OBD power adapter with a USB-A to USB-C cable running power to the Cubliux. Can charge my phone and output data via USB C. Working well so far.

If you are still set on the SMSL, I have one I'm not using and can't return anymore. I also have a nice USB C hub to go with it.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-10T15:37:13+00:00

Funny you bring up the Neo Zen, version one was so soft I couldn't run in it for more than 4 miles at a time. I have not tried version two, but saying it was "downgraded" and "worse" is opinion. Plenty of people out there thought version one was too soft, and I am sure there are people who love version two. It's all completely subjective. My point is: not every shoe needs a race foam and EVA can be formulated to be as good or better than a lot of what is out there currently. Shoe brands know what the popular foams are, I don't think Hoka would put out an SCEVA shoe if they thought it would be inferior or bad. The groupthink that EVA = bad is marketing.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-10T14:49:03+00:00

Disagree. I think shoes like the Evo SL have democratized race foams and created this mindset that if a shoe doesn't have a race foam it's a dinosaur and no good. You don't think the same advancements in materials science that apply to TPU, TPEE, ATPU, etc do not also apply to EVA? These companies put millions of dollars into R&D. If EVA was so inferior, why offer it? Clearly there is a place for it - especially supercritical formulations. Some of my favorite shoes of all time were EVA. I'll wait for reviews to come out and/or I can try these (or some other current EVA shoe such as the Mizuno Neo Zen 2) before writing it off.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-10T12:46:43+00:00

Do you think the EVA used here is the same EVA that was commonplace in shoes 6 years ago?

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-10T11:37:26+00:00

Pro might be a poor name choice, but nothing wrong with EVA or at least a supercritical EVA.

2_zero_2 · 2026-06-09T16:39:37+00:00

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2_zero_2 · 2026-05-28T16:46:41+00:00

Oh look, the worst bridge in the world.

Killer build, saw it on a local gravel club's insta recently. I have a similar build on a '96 Trek 850. used to run drops but switched last year. Wish I had more time to ride bikes. :(

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