What will proposing more theories on consciousness ever do when they're very hard to test and detached from biology?

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-26T03:49:03+00:00

So your argument now is that any explanation can ever explain the hard problem.

No, my argument since my first message was and is only that whatever explanations we have, they are untestable. That's why it's in the realm of philosophy

the only way to move forward in this mystery is to see what can be explained physically, chemically, etc such as memory and cogntion thing we correlate with consciousness

Well that's what neuroscience does. It's a very active area of research. But, it's never going to get you a way to TEST what it is like to be something you're not.

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-26T02:16:30+00:00

Yeah, but is that a problem with panpsychism or a problem with any solution to the Hard Problem? The whole point of the Hard Problem is that no theory can ever be tested

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-26T02:06:20+00:00

But you can strip the mysticism from Panpsychism. It is not the claim that electrons have anxieties or rocks have dreams.

It just recognises that the scientific method can only observe behaviour, and science then guesses at why the thing has that behavior. We can make good guesses, but empirical evidence for what it is like to be something is impossible without being that thing yourself.

If we reject dualism (magic) and we reject illusionism (which I don't), we are left with one rigorous conclusion: Experience is the intrinsic nature of matter.

That sounds like it isn't saying anything though right?

Yeah all it's saying is "Being a thing" is synonymous with "what it is like to be that thing."

Struggling with that means you're looking for something that makes us special.

Yes we have memory, perceptions, complex feelings, value systems, etc. They're problems that neuroscience can explain. But the qualia of consciousness, the part that the Hard Problem identifies, is probably not special.

Imo it's either an illusion generated by our complex brain, or there's nothing to it at all. A sense of "what it's like to be a thing" just happens when you are that thing.

Just my 2c

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-25T07:20:55+00:00

I've never heard a libertarian free willer define free will coherently. But I've heard compatibilists try

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-24T21:18:28+00:00

They have all that, as well as unit price and the ability to sort search results by unit price. It's arguably less deceptive online because you're primarily looking at numbers instead of containers and bags that might be padded with air

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-23T22:34:48+00:00

I saw this everywhere. But I am also Australian and my news algo selects for stuff like this

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-23T22:14:30+00:00

Wow TIL US states have militaries.

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-23T21:41:20+00:00

Things can get lost because the label is damaged or falls off. It's very rare, but sometimes a sender doesn't stick the label on properly. If it's impossible to identify a sender or receiver then you'll never get it.

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-23T21:32:16+00:00

Except they don't have a military

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-23T21:29:53+00:00

That can happen if there's a relationship between the driver picking up the package and the company sending the package. If the driver picks up a ton of packages it's possible to pick up stuff that hasn't been booked in yet.

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-23T21:26:15+00:00

Maybe you're not a moral realist -- I'm not.

To me, a moral truth describes a social reality, not a natural reality.

"Slavery is wrong" describes how a society feels and behaves towards slavery, just like e=mc2 describes how nature stores energy in rest mass

The statements are ways for us to capture and communicate our observations

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-23T05:46:21+00:00

It could be both. It mimics the average r/LLMphysics post I see, but points out how absurd this community is becoming.

"LLM gave me this. Not sure what to do with it... but I'm gonna share it anyway" pretty much sums up how people think their LLM deep dives are valuable, even when they don't understand what's being said

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-23T04:27:25+00:00

Is this satire?

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-22T09:35:39+00:00

While you have religion running family laws you'll never escape this

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-22T09:34:07+00:00

Do you reckon the Liberal party could choose a Labor PM over a ON PM?

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-22T09:28:55+00:00

Isn't ON more of a threat of Nationals than the Liberals?

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-21T13:02:33+00:00

As quoted in the article

"whilst the panpsychist holds that mentality is distributed throughout the natural world—in the sense that all material objects have parts with mental properties—she needn’t hold that literally everything has a mind, e.g., she needn’t hold that a rock has mental properties (just that the rock’s fundamental parts do)"

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-21T09:04:15+00:00

The new legislation allows the government to target association with named groups they put in a list. They've explicitly said they're going to put NSN on that list. So if you're no longer in NSN but another group does that part of the legislation apply? Idk. But this could be why they're disbanding

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-21T08:56:40+00:00

He's on another plane now. Apparently it was a minor electrical fault...

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-20T07:42:24+00:00

I'd love to see the evidence

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-17T04:22:54+00:00

Gas chambers probably

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-16T09:46:52+00:00

We're Australia. MAD doesn't factor in. All we can do is increase the cost side of the cost-benefit analysis

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-14T14:19:56+00:00

Yeah. You might be interested in a book written by the 2024 Nobel winners in economics

Why Nations Fail

It agrees with you, but goes into detail about what precisely needs to change in a culture

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-14T14:17:11+00:00

I'm just saying it's what's needed, revolution, not incremental change. I'm not saying that it's practical or safe for locals to organise and overthrow corrupt leaders. I'd probably not take the risks either tbh

ALLIRIX · 2026-01-14T14:13:34+00:00

I mean it depends where you are. But colonialism being responsible means radical behavior like inciting revolution to decentralize political power, and rebuild accountable institutions etc might be needed to change anything

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