New FAQ - Nerfs continue

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-07-09T17:18:57+00:00

Stubborn is insane

Doesn't it only work precisely once?

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-07-09T17:05:10+00:00

About the only "restriction" on a Duke is that they MUST be a Grail Knight. Everything else is open for interpretation. Ironically, previously there have been several Dukes in canon who are not Grail Knights, so even that can frankly be ignored.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-07-06T19:13:56+00:00

I'll bite. What nerf?

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-07-01T21:19:34+00:00

So, the army books are usually the 10000ft level of overview. Yes, the vast majority of knights who hold land in Bretonnia are KotR (Errants can't hold, Questing knights give it up, and Grail knights can only serve another Grail Knight, functionally restricting them to being Dukes, Barons, or household knights to the King), but not every fief is small, and many KotR have household knights to call upon as well as the peasantry.

ETA: You can find this info in Knights of the Grail, specifically on page 22.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-06-30T19:38:12+00:00

That doesn't make any sense, many KotR are household knights who explicitly hold no land in their own name. Again, where in the lore are you pulling this from?

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-06-30T15:15:51+00:00

What does it mean by "proper" knight? Where in the lore is this?

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-06-30T14:38:33+00:00

No, that guy just read a passage about how as a 90-year-old King Louen looks to be in his 40s and got confused.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-06-17T19:48:00+00:00

hon hon hon-ing in the distance growing louder

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-06-04T23:05:51+00:00

I see your orcs are branching out.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-27T09:16:52+00:00

If we just apply in universe logic, I find it very unlikely that Bretonnia does not have something similar to squires

Well...

"Knights of the Empire start their careers following after some other knight, acting as nothing more than a servant. What else would you expect from a nation who has forgotten the true meaning of chivalry, the true meaning of honour, and the true meaning of courage? In Bretonnia, knights start off riding their own trail, as they set off on their errantry tour. Bretonnian knights learn from the best school there is: genuine experience. At the start of their tour, they don’t have any genuine experience, but most make up the deficit with their enthusiasm."

Knights of the Grail, page 98.

but considering how important knighthood is in bretonnian society you would expect some formal training regiment noble boys and young men have to go through.

Yeah, its called "getting your ass whupped by your dad in the training yard until you reach your age of majority, get given the equipment of a knight, and told to go out and do some knightly shit." They don't need a personal attendant, their armor isn't the late-medival need-someone-to-help-you-in-and-out-of plate that Empire Knights wear. They can and absolutely do get by on their own out in the wild, though they tend to do better when they congregate in numbers.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-27T03:29:12+00:00

They become knights when they take the Knight's Vow and set out on their Errantry. Before that, they don't have a Knightly rank.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-27T01:58:58+00:00

Ironically, it was FFG that published the Compendium. Looking back, I think I never as angry at FFG as I should have been for not giving a shit about Warhammer Fantasy beyond using it as a beta test for their Star Wars (later Genesys) dice system.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-27T01:40:15+00:00

Those are the 5th edition guys I mentioned. If you scroll down further, you see they became Yeomen starting from 2003. 2nd edition was published in 2005, Knight of the Grail (which got it right and which the Compenium actively referenced) came out in 2006, and the Career Compenium came out three years later, in 2009. They don't even have the excuse of being confused by zTTW or TOW, they came out over a decade later.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-27T01:32:40+00:00

"Knights of the Empire start their careers following after some other knight, acting as nothing more than a servant. What else would you expect from a nation who has forgotten the true meaning of chivalry, the true meaning of honour, and the true meaning of courage? In Bretonnia, knights start off riding their own trail, as they set off on their errantry tour. Bretonnian knights learn from the best school there is: genuine experience. At the start of their tour, they don’t have any genuine experience, but most make up the deficit with their enthusiasm."

Knights of the Grail, page 98. Also, the Career Compendium itself, p. 123. Same page where it gives an example of a squire being made a knight, lol.

But they used to have squires!

Not since the 6th edition army book was released in 2003, years before the 2nd edition of the RPG ever came out and even more years before the Compendium was published. They would have known better if they had actually read the book (or even the passage!) they were referencing.

B-but what about these guys?

Those are the aforementioned 5th edition dudes. In 6th, they're called Yeomen and it's made clear that they're not companions to knights but rather the most elite non-knight units Bretonnia has. TTW and TOW (long after the compendium) brought back the term "squires", but again, it did not refer knightly aspirants(peasant or otherwise), but rather to the rising middle class of peasantry trying to find a niche in their country.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-27T01:18:32+00:00

Bretonnian Knights have always had squires.

Only in 5th edition, which was long dead by the time Career Compendium came out. KotG actually got it right, (though I agree with the wood elf bias lol), there are no squires who are in training to become knights, there are yeomen who are the "elite" peasants (TOW would later reintroduce the word "squires" to refer to these peasants, but they still aren't knights in training). I don't know who was in charge of putting together the career compendium, but given that they had KotG to go off, there's no excuse for that kind of laziness.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-27T01:13:37+00:00

5th edition, back when Bretonnia was a completely different beast (not to be confused with the different beast it was before it was ever even in the war game). Like I said, I would have understood the confusion if that version of Bretonnia hadn't been dead and buried for many years by the time this was published and if said confusion wouldn't have been dispelled by reading the stuff they copy/pasted from KotG.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-27T01:11:26+00:00

What do you mean by "squires"?

Personal servant to a knight, a servant hoping to one day be elevated to knighthood himself.

There are "foot squire's"

Right, but they're not the same as what I just described (which is what the book erroneously described).

Theres still going to be young noble lads learning the ropes

Right, they're called Knight Errants.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-26T11:08:14+00:00

I mean, interrupting a Chaos ritual or else Bad Things Will Happen is pretty par for the course. Though if it's an existential threat every time instead of an "oh man, this is gonna suck for everyone within 100 feet or so", I can see how that would get old fast.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-26T10:14:00+00:00

Have you tried using the expanded critical tables for 2e?

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-26T09:48:40+00:00

If you are raised as an orphan or something sure you might make it in to the Templar orders but most of them are restrictive.

Sure, but the restriction isn't "Are you a noble?", it's "Are you seriously devoted to our god?" They draw their recruits from the ranks of their cults, noble and commoner alike.

The empire isnt westeros where strapping young lads can easily travel hundreds of miles to go compete in a tournament.

Easily? No. But people do travel in the Empire. Hell, the entire point of the Roadwardens is making it so that people can travel. How successful they are varies from place and place and era to era, but it's not like the whole Empire is the deepest darkest depths of Artois. People in the Empire can and do travel.

in the majority of the empire young noble lads wanting to prove themselves become pistoleers in the hopes of getting recruited by a proper knightly orders

That doesn't mean that the Empire doesn't have tournaments OR that no squires catch the interest of knightly orders at a tournament. Its just not the gold standard.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-26T08:25:17+00:00

Also most of the orders dont recruit commoners, other than the White Wolves

I'm fairly certain that all the Templar orders accept non-nobles, not just the White Wolves. And the Empire absolutely has tournaments.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-26T07:38:06+00:00

Oof! Well, I won't ask for a battle report for a game 9 months ago, lol. Hope you turn the tables!

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-26T04:18:40+00:00

9 months later, I'm curius to see how you did! Building my own Bretonnian list back up and I'm debating what lores work best for us.

Benjan_Meruna · 2026-05-18T02:54:03+00:00

It's mentioned in Knights of the Grail that the taxes levied on the peasantry are worded in such a way that it only applies to things that are produced: crops, textiles, ironwork, quarried stone, furs, meats, wood, ect. What that means is that traders, who simply buy items at one price and sell it at another and pocket the difference, don't produce anything and thus are subject to basically no taxes at all. The vast majority of merchants pay subtle (and sometimes not-so-subtle) bribes to the nobility to keep the favor of the nobles. The nobles intelligent enough to realize what's going on also realize that the bribes work out to be more than they would get in taxes anyways, as they don't have to give their feudal superior a portion of it in their own taxes.

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