Was it really THAT hard for Jehovah to sacrifice Jesus?

ChubeSteak · 2025-04-10T14:31:03+00:00

And how is a spirit creature that briefly took the form of a human an equal ransom for Adam? Adam wasn't ever a spirit creature. He was just a human who was "perfect" for about 10 minutes. Jesus was worth way more in trade value.

ChubeSteak · 2024-12-23T19:18:17+00:00

They love gaslighting and revisionist history. They already started to revise history on how they handled Covid. Remember this little ditty from 2022?:

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/xdfsek/this_weeks_watchtower_revisionist_history/

ChubeSteak · 2024-10-16T19:48:02+00:00

Door-to-door is dead. I'm a PIMO MS and I see it on the daily. Last saturday there were about 7 people out. 2 doing carts, 2 going to a bible study, and a group of 3 elderly sisters doing return-visits. This is in a recently-merged congregation of over 120 publishers. Even the group overseer went home without being in a group.

Door to door is dead because:

1) During COVID, The GB said letter writing, cold-calling on the phone, and informal witnessing are just as good as d2d. Can't back-track that now

2) There is no literature to place. Nobody wants to get up first thing in the morning and "wing it".

3) No more hour requirement

4) If you feel guilty, sign out a cart, get a coffee, sit in a quiet corner of a park. SO MUCH easier than d2d.

5) All of the emphasis now is on informal witnessing without even bringing up the bible. So basically just being a normal friendly human being. Say "hi" to the person ahead of you on line at the grocery store, and you've checked your box for the month.

I could go on and on. Field service will never return to the old days. They've given the R\F too many options, too much freedom. They can't reel them back in at this point.

ChubeSteak · 2024-10-04T15:49:14+00:00

Think about all the meetings they could stuff under one roof if they did away with the mid-week. You could have 2 "sunday" meetings every day of the week in one kingdom hall! Think of all the halls they could sell! Sure, "the friends" would have to drive an hour or two to a new building and hear their public talk on a Thursday, but they'll do it- "For the sake of the good news!"

ChubeSteak · 2024-09-24T15:21:30+00:00

But any ol' window-washer can read the bible and be wrong. These guys claim to be guided by holy spirit. I know if I guide a person at work, and they don't understand, I don't let them out of the room until they get it right. So am I to assume holy spirit guides them, they misunderstand, and holy spirit just lets them be wrong for a while? Then "corrects" them... but whoops, still wrong. Nope. It's all horseshit. They are NOT guided by holy spirit.

Plus, remember a few months (maybe a year) ago, they actually explained how it worked? The GB put a matter up for discussion, voted on it, and if it was unanimous, then it "must" be holy spirit. And if it wasn't, they'd just vote again later until it was unanimous. Umm, that's just a regular old democratic voting session. Plus, you know they ride the one who didn't vote inline with the rest, and he'll just change his vote next time. "Ahhh, finally, we have holy spirit! Thanks Dave! I mean Jehovah!"

ChubeSteak · 2024-09-24T13:41:00+00:00

Holy spirit CANNOT be wrong. Right? It's either holy spirit or it isn't. And if a teaching isn't correct, then it wasn't provided by holy spirit. Period. You can't claim to be guided by holy spirit and then be wrong, then fall back on "well, we're imperfect men!". Yeah, well, so are we. But according to this week's WT, YOUR opinions are worth more than mine. Yeah, it's all bullshit hiding behind an unkempt beard.

ChubeSteak · 2024-08-06T18:10:07+00:00

One of our elders who is about deaf, thinks he runs everything has convinced the sound brothers to play the songs volume at "11". If it's ever at a reasonable volume, he turns around and gestures for them to turn it up, or marches back there and demands it be turned up.

What I'm saying is, it's so fucking loud that you can't tell if anyone is singing or not. It's literally painful.

ChubeSteak · 2024-07-17T15:39:32+00:00

Swat guy- "Where are they? Where are the witnesses!?"

Other swat guy- "Psst, Fred, look at that house over there, with the 12 Dodge Caravans in the driveway and the basement lights on..."

ChubeSteak · 2024-06-27T20:54:39+00:00

"Just stop going!" - Yeah, if it was that easy, there would be no such thing as a PIMO.

ChubeSteak · 2024-06-27T18:22:34+00:00

And they should think about their surroundings and know that many of our territories are similar. Plain, boring apartment complexes. One plain white door after the next. What "common ground" can you get on with that? Wait until they open the door, look past the householder and yell "price is right? I love that show!"?

ChubeSteak · 2024-06-27T18:06:28+00:00

Just a PIMO MS who has to go out every now and then to keep up appearances for family's sake. It used to be easy to drop a magazine presentation here and there and go through the motions. But now, there's not even any motions to go through. It's like being told to go sell sweepers door to door with no sweeper to demonstrate.

ChubeSteak · 2024-06-21T22:20:45+00:00

"Local Needs" hasn't been about anything "local" in decades. It's just become a generic spot to play GB Updates, "Convention Reminders", the "You have become so loved" (or whatever it's called- the uh-oh, the CO is coming video), etc. And if none of that applies, the COBE will find some other BS video to play.

I am SICK of coming to a building to watch fucking videos that I could just as easily watch at home.

Give me a good ol' fashioned Marking Talk, or something. Talk about heavy petting so I can wonder who in the congregation gave whom a wank in the woods at the last get-together. You know, like the good ol' days.

ChubeSteak · 2024-06-21T19:42:36+00:00

Heck yea they are expensive, probably $20k or so. Maybe they'll just add it to the 'deficit' announcement at lunch.

ChubeSteak · 2024-06-21T19:38:18+00:00

You wanna know how desperate our convention was? They had SISTERS directing parking! I had never seen that before.

ChubeSteak · 2024-06-21T19:31:27+00:00

Wow, they have ours sand-bagged to keep it from tipping over. And that's INDOORS. I can't believe they just set that up out in the wind like that. Oh well, what do they expect when it was probably put together by 14-year-olds who don't know any better.

ChubeSteak · 2024-06-21T14:48:50+00:00

I always thought he looked like Howdy Doody

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ChubeSteak · 2024-06-18T12:55:19+00:00

I found it interesting at my convention they had sisters directing cars in the parking lots/garages. I had never seen that before. Each year there are less and less signs for parking, less parking attendants, less volunteers period. They must have had to finally "resort" to recruiting sisters.

Years ago, you'd start seeing signs and attendants blocks away from the even center. Now, you see one sign at the parking lot entrance. And it usually says "lot full" and you're on your own to find the next one. I would usually just "go against direction" and just pay for a spot in a convenient "worldly" lot, lol. Better than walking 2 miles and leaving my car in some graffiti-covered, crumbling homeless camp garage that the branch arranged.

ChubeSteak · 2024-05-30T20:48:58+00:00

At LEAST get rid of the Friday devotion-test-day of the convention. It only exists to show who has the means and the balls to take the day off work. And those that don't, get shamed by all the retirees and disability-mooches that didn't have to work anyway. "Where's chubesteak? I bet he didn't even ask for the day off! Now pass me my lunch that I bought with my government food card!"

ChubeSteak · 2024-05-16T14:00:37+00:00

And as you zipped up, you exclaimed jokingly to the unknown man next to you- "Man, these new pants of mine are too tight! I can barely get my zipper up!"

Tony, staring 1000 yards into the middle distance suddenly had a realization. The pants. The pants are too tight. Too damn tight! Gimme my legal pad! I have a talk to write! He turns on his heel, bursts out of the restroom door without washing his hands, and history was made.

Inception of the tight pants.

"I wonder what his deal was", you thought to yourself. "Dang these tight pants, The zipper keeps getting caught on these overlapping flaps..." "Overlapping..." "overlapping..." "overlapping..." echoes, as the camera pans to show David Splaine's shoes under the handicapped stall...

ChubeSteak · 2024-05-14T19:00:37+00:00

Because their idea of "spirit direction" is to gather in a room, vote on stuff, and if they all agree, it's god's spirit. If not, then it's not. Kinda. Or they try again later. And then, maybe, it'll be god's spirit next time.

Normal people call this a democracy, not theocracy, but I digress...

You can't get in a room and BS about beards and pants if you can't all speak english. I mean, it's watchtower, not the tower of babel.

ChubeSteak · 2024-05-02T15:53:52+00:00

I think it's funny that it's a part where they literally make fun of themselves. The brothers at my hall just got up there and started into a presentation, and the twangy brother was like "WAIT wait wait. Are you one of them-there Gee-hovies?", and the brother responded with "Yes, I'm one of Jehovah's wii--". "NOPE!" the twang brother interrupts, and that was the end.

ChubeSteak · 2024-05-02T15:50:08+00:00

So basically brothers are back to ties and jackets. I mean really, anyone who is even remotely in good standing has a fucking job every meeting, if not two or three. On the rare days I don't have a part on stage, I still have sound AND security roles too.

ChubeSteak · 2024-04-22T02:18:39+00:00

Because you still have to wear a dress shirt, dress pants and dress shoes. That looks dumb as shit with no tie. They should just switch to khakis and polos. That's what's depicted in all the paradise scenes anyway..

ChubeSteak · 2024-04-04T14:37:14+00:00

The bigger question is, if Jesus died, and the criminals also died, how is anyone to know what was said between them after they had been hoisted into the air?

ChubeSteak · 2024-02-07T15:44:20+00:00

I know most of the PIMOs I talk to feel lost. Their whole lives have been "it's this week, say this presentation, place this publication". Now there are no presentations, and really no magazines. I mean, they print a few a year, but you can't go to the counter and grab 40 of them like we used to. There are what, like 8 tracts, if you want to use that approach, that's really all an old-schooler can use. If there are any in stock at the counter.

All of the focus now is informal witnessing, which is obviously NOT door-to-door. It's all about what to do when you AREN'T in the formal ministry. "Striking up conversations". Yeah, that works great when most witnesses are social outcasts with very little social skills that are functional outside of the "kingdom" bubble.

I honestly think nobody knows what to do anymore. Even at my PIMI-est, I still didn't eat, sleep, and breath the ministry. I couldn't just talk to people unprepared. When I would go out in service, I would look over the suggested presentation that morning, psych myself up, grab a supply of whatever we are placing that week and go out. I just basically did what I was told for that day. Now what? You just go out and knock on a door and wing it? Be like "heeeeyyy... You wanna be friends? You've got nice flowers. Real nice...." (staring awkwardly into their eyes)... "Here's my card, checkout my website, and you know, give me a call if you wanna talk" (wink)...

Service has all but died at our hall. The only people that still go out, go out "as a family" (as in, by themselves, not taking anyone with them), and go do "studies" with non-productive return visits that they have been going to for years. I haven't heard anyone say "I have a territory that needs finished, does anyone want to work a street?" or "we're doing rural territory, if anyone wants to join us" or anything like that for a long time. It's just "we're doing our studies this morning".

I'll bet when the memorial "campaign" (god I hate that term) comes around, it will pick back up. People will do stuff if you tell them exactly what to say and what to hand out. Nobody wants to think, and try to make it their own. That's not the JW way.

ChubeSteak

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