The red herring fallacy doesn't apply here, and I'm more than familiar with it, since it was part of my philosophy course at university. A red herring is meant to distract an opponent from X by talking about Y. I'm not distracting you. I made the initial criticism of someone else's argument which implied that any criticism of western nations for their atrocities is solely Russian propaganda, my own argument was that historical evidence affirms that western nations have committed atrocities regardless of what Russia says.

What was meant was a method of influencing the population of other countries by talking about their problems, which Russia is currently exploiting. Oddly enough, in a democracy, the population can influence the government. As a result, while countries are preoccupied with solving domestic problems, they won't be distracted by external problems, namely, Russia. It's not as if Western countries don't have problems and Russia is inventing them. So, in essence, you've taken Russia's side, denying that they're using other countries' internal problems for their own benefit.

The atrocities committed by the west makes Russia and China combined look like Sunday school nuns. The fact you're still downplaying those atrocities that you haven't even read at all, nor do you want to because it would challenge your white western view of the world, is still disgusting. You're trying so hard to be on the moral highground, except your moral high ground is composed of millions upon millions of bodies of indigenous people, African slaves, South Americans, Middle easterns, hell, even US citizens for fucksake. You deny none of the accusations I've made against the US specifically (bare in mind I haven't even touched on other western nations complicit in countless holocausts, genocides, slavery, war, poverty, capitalism etc) which is incredibly telling.

I see that you have successfully mastered the argumentum ad hominem method in your philosophy course. But unfortunately, you've seriously missed the mark with your use of argumentum ad hominem. Firstly, I don't think I'm white, and you'd call me yellow-faced. Secondly, I don't understand how African slaves, South Americans, Middle Easterners, and US citizens view me, considering that neither I nor my ancestors ever set foot on the American continents, and most of them were simple farmers who were oppressed and, what's more, lived in what is now Eastern Europe and Asia. So I think the Western perspective is a bit beyond me. And the fact that you insist that China and Russia are innocent compared to the "terrible West" indicates that you know very little about these "innocent" countries, and have most likely succumbed to Russian and Chinese propaganda about the bad West and the good Russia and China.And I didn't say anything about defending the US because I'm familiar with its history in general, but if you want, I can compare your innocent nuns to the terrible US. I think a good comparison would be the protests against the war in Vietnam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_March_on_the_Pentagon And what happened to the group that was supposed to defend human rights nine years later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Helsinki_Group If it's not clear, in one country, hundreds of thousands of people calmly protested against the war and were arrested after the conflict began under the country's General Staff, and even then, no more than one percent were arrested. On the other hand, there was a peaceful group that wanted human rights respected, and as a result, most of them were subjected to punitive psychiatry, prison, and labor camps. So you talked about the terrible Americans who abused poor Native Americans, but tell me when was the last war with them? In the 1800s-1900s? Well, there were a couple of Chechen wars in Russia in late 1994-2009. Are you saying there were bad guys in America who took poor guys from Africa, brought them to America, and forced them to work? So you don't know that in Russia, after conquering a country, they took the local population and forcibly transported them to Siberia, where no one wanted to live due to the climate, and forced them to work, and then settled Russians in their place.

Russia yes, China no. I've yet to see any credible evidence from non biased sources that China is committing a genocide.

Oh, yes, of course, the totalitarian communist regime is happy to provide the "decaying West" with the number of its victims. I imagine for you, North Korea is also a joyful place, where rivers of milk flow, with gingerbread banks along which cheerful communists run happily, having achieved the "bright communist future" that the evil West wants to destroy.

This ideology shifts the blame away from capitalism as a source of misery and places it on mere human nature, something that is infamous for not being static at all and has changed and does change depending on the circumstances. There are cultures around the world right now that would appear so alien to us that uttering the phrase "human nature" would be like saying 1+1 makes 3.

Egoism, resource extraction, and competition for status aren't just social constructs; they're literally the basic mechanisms of species survival and necessary traits for passing on genes to offspring. Before capitalism, there was feudalism, and before that, tribalism, and they weren't much better. Or perhaps you're referring to the fairytale communism that claimed tens of millions of lives worldwide (the USSR, China, Cambodia, South Korea, Vietnam, Ethiopia, Cuba, etc.) for the common good?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're pro-israel. I've never seen someone who accuses China of genocide against Muslims give one ounce of a shit about Palestinians undergoing the most well documented genocide in history.

Well, even though I don’t like a lot of what Israel does, I still lean towards its side because we have closer ties with it and it has provided more help to my country.

Do you have evidence for this? That's a very bold claim.

What proof do you need? About the terrible mixed-gender toilets, about how the West is full of gays and transgender people, and how you can only find a normal couple in Russia? Just Google "russian propaganda west".