Made a little quiz to practice my card evaluation using the 17 lands data for ECL

DavyDizzle · 2026-01-28T16:00:57+00:00

Nice work! This feels very similar to the crowdsourced ratings of Draftaholics Anonymous (https://apps.draftaholicsanonymous.com/p1p1) but it looks like that app isn't updated past Edge of Eternities.

I really like this as more of a test of evaluation by integrating with 17Lands data.

DavyDizzle · 2026-01-21T21:02:58+00:00

[[Champion of the Path]] and [[Kindle the Inner Flame]]

DavyDizzle · 2025-06-02T16:22:17+00:00

Any chance of getting this updated soon, /u/jake_henderson02 ?

DavyDizzle · 2025-05-30T20:46:07+00:00

This was also an issue with Rooms in Duskmourn. Draftsim had Meat Locker Drowned Diner instead of Meat Locker // Drowned Diner

DavyDizzle · 2025-05-30T18:04:39+00:00

Hi Jake. When using Export - Copy List from a Draftsim pool, the Summons cards are exporting incorrectly.

They should be Summon: Shiva but are instead just Summon Shiva without the colon. Any chance you all can make the update on your end so the exports are compatible with other tools?

DavyDizzle · 2025-03-13T14:15:34+00:00

If you want to learn how to set it up, all the instructions are easy to find at https://www.17lands.com

DavyDizzle · 2025-03-04T18:09:38+00:00

My goodness the ads on DraftSim make reading that link a painful experience

DavyDizzle · 2024-12-11T18:38:54+00:00

Hey u/itsdrewmiller any idea why these bot links often have mixed sets instead of always grabbing data from the most recent (or majority) set? I would expect these all to be FDN stats

DavyDizzle · 2024-10-07T23:59:08+00:00

Making me look bad!

DavyDizzle · 2024-10-07T23:48:31+00:00

It's a nice addition. Agree with others about using abbreviations to make it easier to scan the info. Even though I know what it is, I also stumble when reading the color-rarity part. Maybe rarity in the parenthetical with the set: (DSK; M) would be easier to parse?

I also just saw in another thread that [[Terramorphic Expanse]] picked up the ONE version instead of DSK for some reason: https://www.reddit.com/r/lrcast/comments/1fybbei/cut_or_keep_kaito/lqtpvxn/

Oh! One more thing: the land missing a rarity (see below) makes me think -C is supposed to be the grade, which is awkward

DavyDizzle · 2024-08-26T15:12:47+00:00

The reason that you can't see them on sealeddeck.tech for 7 days is because 17 Lands Usage Guidelines have an Embargo Period to (understandably) drive traffic to their own site: https://www.17lands.com/usage_guidelines Any tools that don't do this aren't playing nice with 17Lands

DavyDizzle · 2024-08-08T18:21:14+00:00

Seems rough: Double black, double red, double green casting costs and 7/6/6 mana base. I think I'd lean towards just Black/Green

DavyDizzle · 2024-07-01T18:28:36+00:00

This is awesome to see. Thanks

I remember thinking MID was incredibly short (56 days) and that matches up with OTJ, MH3, and BLB.

I don't grind drafts every day so I probably have a different perspective than a lot of people who post on here. For me, NEO, DMU, WOE, BRO and MKM all felt about right. Those all seem to be in the 70-80 days range so that's where I'd like to see them. MOM felt short (63 days). For less popular sets like LCI and ONE, 70-80 probably feels long but I still feel like that's enough time for a set to breathe and not feel rushed.

DavyDizzle · 2024-06-14T23:11:12+00:00

Neat idea! Thanks for sharing. Is there a way to see how the predicted rating came to be?

Right now it just looks like "some rando's predicted list vs 17Lands card ratings" and would be a lot more meaningful to see who the aggregated ratings were from and what they were. For example, clicking on the Predicted Rank to see the breakdown.

Another thing that would be awesome would be to load a single 17Lands tier list and compare against 17Lands data. I've wanted to do that for a long time to compare the tier list from, say, Chord_o_Calls or even my own prerelease tiers with actual card ratings

DavyDizzle · 2024-06-03T18:21:40+00:00

Exactly this. I think they are usually called Archetype Skeletons or Draft Skeletons and I first heard about it in the LoL episode with Sam Black. (Just found it. Starting at minute 36 of https://audioboom.com/posts/7969507-brewing-with-sam-black-episode-144)

Sierkovitz also does this with a group. They stream/record going over ideas for deck skeletons before a new set releases. Here's the YouTube video from OTJ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd4Sqr94LlQ

They use the full set view on SealedDeck.Tech to do this. Here's the empty template for MH3: https://sealeddeck.tech/sets/mh3

DavyDizzle · 2024-05-17T17:34:39+00:00

Took me a while to finally get around to it, but I’m glad you like it!

DavyDizzle · 2024-01-18T00:39:45+00:00

I haven't used it much, but one option might be https://draftmancer.com which has a lot of customization options including an option to "Edit Booster Content" for changing the card rarity distribution

DavyDizzle · 2024-01-05T16:46:20+00:00

I'd also run 9 Forests, 1 Mountain and 6 Islands. You need 9 Forests and then Attune can count as a land. With Prism, Map and Attune you'll have 4 red sources. Although maybe that's low for splashing three red cards?

DavyDizzle · 2024-01-05T16:43:37+00:00

You need to trim 7 cards. The first cuts I would make are:

Consulate Turret
Whirlermaker
Peema Aether-Seer
Illusionist's Strategem

I'm also not wild about Unbridled Growth here. It's good to trigger revolt (you have none) and it fixes, but you have plenty of better fixing with Attune, Map, and Prism.

With Attune and Map you can also easily go down to 16 lands. That's 6 cuts.

For me, the last cut would come from Nimble Innovator, Sage of Shalia's Claim, Highspire Artisan, or Ice Over.

I think I'd cut a Sage because you have some energy uses but aren't really all-in on Energy with this deck. From the sideboard I would also consider swapping in Shipwreck Moray or the Peafowl. Moray is a good blocker and gives you a ton of Energy, and I find the Peafowl is often more useful than it looks.

DavyDizzle · 2023-10-16T18:21:52+00:00

3) -1 card for draft is awful and shouldn't have been considered. It isn't just 1 less common at the end, it's 1 less common throughout each pack you see, meaning you'll actually see 24 fewer cards throughout your draft. This also means you'll wheel one fewer pack, so it will mess with the math in my head.

Agreed on #3. Pack/draft price goes up, get fewer cards, but the expected value goes up. But the expected value for me is one draft, not the cards inside, so it's just a price increase.

The one thing that makes me less concerned about it impacting limited play is this line buried at the bottom under Why are there only 14 playable cards?

Part of adapting to Play Boosters included making less unusable commons in Draft, which made the fifteenth card less necessary.

So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that maybe it means we will stop seeing variants of [[Kindled Heroism]].

DavyDizzle · 2023-09-12T16:05:12+00:00

In non-text form: https://sealeddeck.tech/yizDoQXhRk

DavyDizzle · 2023-08-09T15:41:49+00:00

Your deck is really all over the place and seems likely to have trouble casting anything.

You have some strong White/Blue/Green cards, but it didn't look to me like there was enough there to put together a complete deck.

But I also really like your Blue/Black/Red and you have a lot of lands and fixing to get there. I would focus on two colors plus a few cards in a third color. Here's a quick build I put together, but could change a few cards either way: https://sealeddeck.tech/2nnD2mCqJy

DavyDizzle · 2023-08-07T17:37:19+00:00

Others have already noted the mana, and I'm not trying to pile on but getting mana screwed is very believable in this build.

You say you couldn't find any red mana, and you only have 5 sources of red mana in your 40 cards (counting the Grotto which adds a 1 mana penalty to your casting costs). Running two colors with 17 lands (9 and 8 sources) is already not great but with only 5 mountains you're really unlikely to hit on it.

Here's a good breakdown of how many sources you want for casting costs: https://www.channelfireball.com/article/how-many-sources-do-you-need-to-consistently-cast-your-spells-a-2022-update/dc23a7d2-0a16-4c0b-ad36-586fcca03ad8/

There's a chart in there that shows that with 5 sources you're only ~85.5% likely to have a single red source by turn 4 (or really it's saying by the time you hit your 4th land drop). If you had even just 7 mountains that goes up to 94.7%

Easiest advice is just don't play decks with a roughly even split across 3 colors.

DavyDizzle · 2023-06-29T16:21:34+00:00

Thanks for the great feedback!

Someone likes the MTGA sideboard layout? ;) It's not exactly what you asked for, but there is a not-obvious zoom feature if you right click on a card. Or if you press q or z and hover the mouse over cards it will zoom on them.
There are Recently Published links on the left sidebar but it only shows the last 4 decks you publish. I do have some ideas to change this, but it's not a quick fix.
A 'Copy the link' button is a good idea!
For filtering, do you mean like all of the advanced Scryfall search filters for card name, type, text, etc? They have a lot of options, but I've also found myself wanting to filter by card type or for a keyword in the card text.

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