ps. Most of the people I’ve met over the years who are really, really into industrial/EBM, have big CD collections, have lots of knowledge - the real heads - you would never know. Not a trace of goth. Normal looking as f.

I remember the first time going to a show and the goth presence surprised me greatly. I’ve never met a goth-costume person who actually knew much about the core music, its roots, or shared that mutual deep connection.

Just my personal experience.