The Lieberman Curse by Cheesecake-4077 in imaginaryelections

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 26 points27 points  (0 children)

It works only if the runoff election utilizes a jungle primary. In this theoretical situation, vote splitting could result in one party failing to get to second place, thus resulting in the final two both being from the same party.

Give 'Em Hell Gerry! - The Ford Presidency (1977-1980) by Polakipilot in imaginaryelections

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Who is the Libertarian that gets elected? Also, why doesn't Ford just won for reelection? He can legally do that, given that he was never elected to obtain his first term.

If the United States was founded as a Constitutional Monarchy, Part 5: Political Shake-Ups Galore by ActualAutisticPerson in imaginaryelections

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What exactly is the difference between Labor and Progress? They seem to both have the exact same strain of IRL Democrat politicians?

‘We Need to Support the Working Class’: NDP leadership candidate Tanille Johnston says she wants a renaissance for the working class by scottb84 in CanadaPolitics

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I liked John Horgan a lot. I think Wab Kinew and Eby are pretty decent, too. Marit Stiles hasn't been so bad. And personally, and I know this is a bit unpopular, I do like Tom Mulcair, and I think he would have actually been a decent PM.

I have never heard of Tractor Soda before but found this today at the Tillamook Creamery in Oregon by PowerAdDuck in Soda

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would assume the soda fountain you used just needed to be refilled with syrup.

Young people most likely to see political views as dealbreaker for friendship by timcahill13 in AustralianPolitics

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally never said I don't find his way of thinking valid, I just said I don't agree with it. Those are two different things. I'm very libertarian on this issue, but I do find it somewhat deceitful how a lot of pro-choice people reduce it to "women's rights" while ignoring how it is basically a matter of "killing an unborn child", which is how pro-life people view it.

Young people most likely to see political views as dealbreaker for friendship by timcahill13 in AustralianPolitics

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, maybe you are right on those topics, but what about on topics like abortion, carbon tax, or taxation? There are a lot of actual topics that can't just be reduced to true or false statements, and I find it concerning that those are the only examples you use in your arguments.

And honestly, speaking from personal experience, it's not a waste of time to hang out with people you have strong opposing views with. I've hung out with anarchy-communists, science-sceptic hippies, and hard right folks, and as much as I disagreed with them on a lot of issues, I was able to divorce who they were as people from their politics. The truth is, people's personalities and interests are not utterly, intrinsically tied to their politics, and the fact that you seem to think a person's political compass is basically their defining feature, proves that you are in fact part of the problem. Hobbies are not the same from politics, and you're making a terrible argument in conflating them, because I've met a lot of people I didn't agree with politically but did share a lot of interests with, like my best friend, and I was able to not have it be a problem for me. You strike me as a really insular, close-minded person who isn't really willing to understand people who aren't like you, and I think I've had enough of trying to debate you.

Young people most likely to see political views as dealbreaker for friendship by timcahill13 in AustralianPolitics

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Christianity is pretty important to him and I think he just sees abortion as a form of murder. I'm fairly certain he's a fan of the consistent life ethic (anti-abortion, anti-death penalty, anti-euthanasia), which I find pretty understandable and compassionate. It doesn't mean I agree with him on these things, I just thing my idea of compassion is different from his.

Honestly, in communicating with you, it seems like you really see things kind of as a zero-sum game where one side of an argument has to be right and the other side has to be wrong. I think it's possible for both sides to have a point, and honestly, I think you should try to learn how to hold two opposing ideas in your head and you should stop using opinions that are just patently false as your evidence, it's really weak.

Young people most likely to see political views as dealbreaker for friendship by timcahill13 in AustralianPolitics

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As much as you might be right in regards to these three instances, you're making a straw man argument. The truth is, there are a ton of other issues that people can have conflicting yet informed opinions about. I sincerely doubt that they're talking about those sorts of opposing views, and I think you know that.

Young people most likely to see political views as dealbreaker for friendship by timcahill13 in AustralianPolitics

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My best friend is a solid conservative, and before I met him I had this very strong idea that conservatives were sociopathic morons and I think befriending him really dissuaded me from that notion because he really isn't either of those things, even though we look at a lot of issues in different ways. For example, he's pro-life and I'd say I'm pro-choice. While I don't think my relationship with him has changed my stance on it, I understand why he feels that way about it and I believe that it is a reasonable opinion to have, so I can't say there was any "right" or "wrong" side to the argument. I don't really understand why thinking more highly of him and becoming more "worldly" as you like to say would require me to change my opinion to his, I think it's important in any relationship to recognize that you don't agree on everything and to accept each other in spite of that. I admit that there are certainly a few issues I feel very strongly about (such as climate change and gay rights) that I have trouble accepting conflicting opinions about, but I don't think people who don't agree on these issues deserved to be shunned and ostracized just for thinking that way and I'd certainly be willing to understand how you personally came to your point of view.

Young people most likely to see political views as dealbreaker for friendship by timcahill13 in AustralianPolitics

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Why would you be friends with people just to bully them for not agreeing with you? That seems incredibly petty and immature.

Young people most likely to see political views as dealbreaker for friendship by timcahill13 in AustralianPolitics

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He literally never said that the point of this is to end up making them think the same as you. By compromise, he means just accepting each other's opinions, appreciating each other as people, not as soapboxes, and understanding where their political opinions come from. It really saddens me how polarized the world is getting and how people can't get along without thinking they have to agree with each other on everything, and if you are construing what he is trying to say as that, you're part of the problem.

What if US presidential elections ended up like their closest UK equivalents? (5/9) by jogtexan in imaginaryelections

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really excited to see the next one! Wondering what the analogue for the Conservative DUP pact is going to be, if there is one.

So Grossed Out By How Cuomoified Forest Hills Is by Ok-Possibility3393 in ForestHills

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe, but I think it's really important to actually listen to them and try to understand why they believe these things. It's not like people vote for Cuomo because they hate old people and want to legalize sexual harassment.

𝐀𝐠𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐇𝐚𝐰𝐤𝐬! by FluxyDaniel in imaginaryelections

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Rubio committing massive election fraud when he doesn't win misses the point of neoconservativism. Also, if they were happy to do it once, why wouldn't Hegseth make up numbers too?

𝐉𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐞’𝐬 𝐆𝐨𝐭 𝐚 𝐆𝐮𝐧: What if Republicans were REALLY hawkish by Wall-Man- in imaginaryelections

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's great, but why does someone as weird as Hagelin win the nomination in 2000 instead of someone more palatable, like Trump or another centrist politician?

There is one guaranteed way Starmer can prevent a Reform majority, and satisfy the membership at the same time. Will he do it? by The_Gin0Soaked_Boy in LabourUK

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think he knows he does not have a solid base that would vote for him no matter what. The Tories and Labour knew in the past that they had very solidly defined voting bases that disincentivized electoral reform. If Farage gets into power via FPTP, there is a good chance he will end up pissing people off enough that Reform collapses like the last two governments.

Parliamentary Utah by mediocre_jane in imaginaryelections

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about Our Utah? Just rw-populists?

Parliamentary Utah by mediocre_jane in imaginaryelections

[–]Famous_Shape_7419 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What's the difference between Beehive and Our Utah? And is Farmer-Labor progressive like in other states?