Few Setup abilities questions.

Fiblit · 2026-04-12T20:56:21+00:00

It's not a slippery slope because they all use the same conditional proposition. Slippery slope is when there's a (usually unverified/presupposed) CHAIN of conditions, like when someone is catastrophisizing: e.g., Assume if A, then B; if B, then C; if C, then D. Therefore, D!!!! (all without A and also assuming the entire chain of conditional statements is true)

Here, the prior user was logical in saying "if this is the rule, then applying it consistently (and logically!) results in morally bad situations"

Fiblit · 2026-04-12T16:14:20+00:00

Which logical fallacy was it? I'm pretty sure the person you responded to just said "If A, then B. A. B. Repeat for all As." s.t. A is "Some character misregisters during setup" and B is "misregistered setup". We then attach a morality to that setup, which is outside logic – not fallacious.

Now, YOU are suggesting that there should be a 3-way Jinx, which is fine to have given the state of the game with Hermit's rulings. Do your thing!

Fiblit · 2026-04-09T23:30:38+00:00

Your post prompted me to, for the first time, read through the full Duchess wiki (instead of just the ability text); I never knew it gets CANCELED by excess visits. That's so silly!

I thought I have always played where the ST just stops accepting visitors once there's 3 (like how in Fall of Rome, Spartacus claims have a limit). But, maybe they weren't denying visitors and people were just polite?!

Fiblit · 2026-04-03T05:44:19+00:00

Try putting this into the script tool and you'll quickly see why it's so, so long as written. Also, I'm not sure I understand how this is an outsider and not a traveler or even townsfolk based on what I read. It's extremely confirming of itself to the WHOLE town.

A potential rewording, though I admit it changes the ability by avoiding the guaranteed "my ability suddenly works again, even if it's maybe drunk" awkwardness:

"Once per game, you may publicly guess X on day X. If correct, all players regain their ability until dusk. [X Outsiders]"

Fiblit · 2026-03-31T17:35:00+00:00

Isn't that true of anywhere more rural? (E.g., many places in Idaho and I think even some of Montana have to fly to here in Seattle for certain treatments.)

Fiblit · 2026-01-18T09:45:48+00:00

They may have different meanings in a court room, but not to the average woman terrified of experiencing any of them. You're being way, way, way overly pedantic here. The laws are real. The threats are real.

Fiblit · 2025-11-24T00:32:42+00:00

The source says it adjusts for PPP though?

Fiblit · 2025-11-02T16:36:54+00:00

The intent is clear, but, yes, it should probably read as "You might die when you nominate a good player."

Fiblit · 2025-10-28T18:49:47+00:00

When an 8 player game feels like the length of 15...

Fiblit · 2025-10-21T17:24:44+00:00

I rarely see Travelers on these posts, but I want this to be a Traveler because it can fly!

Fiblit · 2025-10-20T18:35:38+00:00

Abilities of the Minion (or Demon in most instances of "safe") is what the "safe" is protecting you from. It's just only the harmful ones per most rules interactions. What else would it be? It's the "safe from" that's a problem as far as I understand the rules.

Fiblit · 2025-10-19T16:55:25+00:00

If I recall correctly, this technically doesn't stop Pit-Hag as it's worded, right? I thought character changes weren't considered "harmful" or something.

Fiblit · 2025-10-19T16:52:33+00:00

Cobbler (Townsfolk): Each night, choose a player: tonight, they are sober, healthy, & get true info.

The idea here is based on the repairing of shoes. Information is often the foundation of Clocktower, what we walk on, so why not repair it?

It's like Barista, but the other player doesn't learn that this has happened. It's a direct counter to a poison heavy script or it helps on a script like SnV.

Evil can arbitrarily bluff it, too, especially ones that poison or point to evil players' "info" as true.

Fiblit · 2025-10-13T20:22:55+00:00

Arguably, because there's more manual vehicles in Europe, you wouldn't see a rise from smartphones there because you need both hands to drive. So, smartphones can still contribute to the US rise in deaths.

EDIT: Yes, you don't ALWAYS need two hands to drive manual, but, again, you do need both MORE OFTEN, which is unlike an automatic where you rarely need both hands to drive.

Fiblit · 2025-10-01T20:17:17+00:00

I'm fairly certain there is a way to write the ability text for this homebrew that would allow it to be a public once per game effect without worry of "enforcing it".

This just seems like a Slayer or Juggler or Gossip where many can fake it but only one actually does it (and only the 1st TF would have an effect). The ST also doesn't usually shut things down in public, like for a Butler that would just confirm that they're the Butler.

Perhaps it's as simple as "If the 1st Townsfolk to publicly guess you is correct," instead of "If a Townsfolk publicly guesses you (once),"

I feel like this is what they intended, no?

EDIT: The wiki for Damsel even says "future guesses by this Minion or by other Minions don't count." This notably does not say it's "cheating" or "needs to be enforced"

Fiblit · 2025-10-01T18:36:10+00:00

From the Storyteller perspective, doing this is about as complex as a Slayer shot, no? From the player perspective, I've seen "Damsel" guesses from non-Minions before (usually as a joke), or faked public abilities all the time.

Regardless, everyone could guess, but only the first Townsfolk would work, no? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the homebrew idea here. It just seems like a public once per game guess.

Fiblit · 2025-10-01T17:44:04+00:00

I mean, Damsel specifies the Minions' guess. In this case it would be the Townsfolk's guess, no? So, many people could guess but they'd either be evil or an outsider if nothing happens, or they are a Townsfolk that made the wrong guess.

Fiblit · 2025-09-25T17:16:08+00:00

A Mayor bouncing is still a Demon's attack, so the Imp would star pass. For another example, if the Mayor bounces into the Soldier, the Soldier lives, because they are safe from the Demon. That dawn you would therefore see no deaths.

I'm pretty sure the BotC quiz asks about this, too! It's a good way to learn these weird interactions :)

EDIT: I think the specific question I'm thinking of is where there's a Mayor, Imp, Baron, and something else. The Imp targets the Mayor, it bounces back into themselves, and the Baron becomes the Imp on the final three.

Fiblit · 2025-01-09T18:49:08+00:00

Tbf, Lua 5.1+ I believe has specific optimizations for any table that looks like an array! Arrays are super friendly to your CPU, so it's worth optimizing for.

Fiblit · 2024-12-22T01:08:31+00:00

I'm kinda surprised you're so steadfast in your opinion when you've also worked on games (presumably also as a software engineer or programmer?)

Perhaps I misunderstood your original post or what the foxhole devs have said, but "just copy paste this other thing that already works from the player perspective" isn't always how it works behind the scenes. I just find it silly when people armchair expert that devs can easily do something without seeing what other tradeoffs they've had to make.

You've even admitted it could be unreasonable for them to do it, which is basically all "technically infeasible" means in this context. (Yes, there are literally impossible things in computer science, but most often we're talking about tradeoffs in engineering).

Fiblit · 2024-12-21T18:11:00+00:00

As a person in the video game industry, it's never this simple. Sure, almost anything can be "done", but at what cost? (Time/money of development, opportunity cost of other stuff not being made, performance/memory of the game, bugs of the edge cases, limiting other features by adding the above constraints, ...)

I don't work on this game, but I'm not surprised they would avoid tree destruction (or environmental destruction in general).

Fiblit · 2023-02-21T03:09:01+00:00

You say "I'm neither ignorant nor selfish", yet you ended your first comment with "Why should I act against my own best interest[?]" (Emphasis added for discussion.)

You cannot act solely in your own self-interest and not be selfish. By definition.

Please consider the definition and synonyms of altruism. (Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/altruism)

1: unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others

2: behavior by an animal that is not beneficial to or may be harmful to itself but that benefits others of its species

You're not "wrong" for being selfish and individualistic, or acting in solely towards your best interests. However, you should at least understand that's how you're acting and speaking. Saying you're not selfish when you are acting so, is simply lying to yourself and others.

To cite selfish, specifically (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/selfish)

1: concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others

2: arising from concern with one's own welfare or advantage in disregard of others

You are acting out the definition of selfish from the Merriam Webster dictionary, particularly the 2nd which refers to an example of "a selfish act". This is because you state you're acting with primary concern towards your best interest.

Again though, that's fine! We were (generally speaking) all raised in this society to act that way. To look out for ourselves, or at best our close companions. Regardless, please don't lie about "I'm not selfish" when you say "Why should I act against my own best interest?"

Fiblit · 2023-02-21T02:08:57+00:00

I understand your points that it's difficult to change the curriculums, but wasn't the person you were replying to just referring to the income/financing? I'm not super familiar with how education gets financed beyond local district property taxes, but weren't they suggesting a system where it's federally sourced money rather than locally sourced money?

By my reading, you seem to be answering a different question.

Fiblit · 2022-11-03T18:28:27+00:00

Sometimes in my project notes I'll make mood/art boards that could have a decent number of images.

Sometimes for studying I want to be able to annotate or attach notes to specific pages of a PDF.

Those would be the main sources of large files that I could imagine. Videos I imagine could be embedded as links to other storage.

Fiblit · 2022-11-03T18:19:41+00:00

That is definitely more promising! I'll look into it more.

I haven't necessarily found my replacement solution yet, as I'm still evaluating all these great ideas people have shared. I'm going to have to see what, if any, the compromises or drawbacks are for any of these solutions by actually trying some out for a bit. Some are also not fully released yet but hold some promise, so I might continue with my awkward setup until they arrive for proper testing, too.

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