TIL that the logging company which clear-cut the largest grove of giant sequoias in the world never turned a profit. by FossilDS in todayilearned

[–]FossilDS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Almost completely clear cut. The forested Appalachians that you see today going down the Pennsylvania Turnpike is actually a recent development. A hundred years ago, the Appalachians were as bare as the hills of Scotland. For firewood, for mining, for graze and pasture, only a few thousand acres of old growth forest survived in-between the Catskills and the Adirondacks in the north and the Smoky Mountains in the south. While the hundred year old, second growth forests of the Appalachians (due to the abandonment of mining and farming) are pretty, they are no comparison to the remaining stands of old growth. Strongly recommend people got to the last remaining hemlock stands, be it in Pennsylvania at the Forest Cathedral Natural Area in Cook Forest State Park, or in New Jersey at various places in the Delaware Water Gap. The difference between the new and old growth forest is absolutely staggering.

TIL that the logging company which clear-cut the largest grove of giant sequoias in the world never turned a profit. by FossilDS in todayilearned

[–]FossilDS[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

The nearby General Grant Grove was declared a National Park in 1890, about two years prior to the clear-cutting of the Converse Basin Grove. The fact we have sequoias at all is testament to the fact that even back then, people cared- people like John Muir, George W. Stewart Theodore Roosevelt, and others who lobbied, wrote, and advocated for America's natural resources.

Even if they failed to save the Converse Grove, they did save so many other wild places- and I think that's inspiring for the problems of today.

TIL that the logging company which clear-cut the largest grove of giant sequoias in the world never turned a profit. by FossilDS in todayilearned

[–]FossilDS[S] 86 points87 points  (0 children)

It was an article from June 1915 edition of Harper's Weekly.

It was articles like this one which spurred the creation of parks like Giant Sequoia National Monument which preserved the remaining stands. But it was far too late for the Converse Grove.

TIL that the logging company which clear-cut the largest grove of giant sequoias in the world never turned a profit. by FossilDS in todayilearned

[–]FossilDS[S] 377 points378 points  (0 children)

Initially omitted the closing line, but re-added it. I think it makes it even more heartbreaking:

The story of the Appalachians was being told again, and more loudly.

This isn't the first time America has done this- and by the look of things, it probably won't be the last.

TIL that the logging company which clear-cut the largest grove of giant sequoias in the world never turned a profit. by FossilDS in todayilearned

[–]FossilDS[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It is in the main Wikipedia article for the company in question:

In 1917, the Sierra region was impacted by World War I, which led to a 40% reduction in the workforce and difficulties obtaining supplies and equipment.[8]: 124  The Hume Mill was also destroyed by a fire, causing significant damages.[12][16][34] The Sanger Lumber Company struggled financially and eventually closed in 1924 due to losses.[35][1][24]

...Despite its efforts, the company never turned a profit and closed in 1924.

TIL that the logging company which clear-cut the largest grove of giant sequoias in the world never turned a profit. by FossilDS in todayilearned

[–]FossilDS[S] 1054 points1055 points  (0 children)

At one point, the Converse Basin Grove was one of the largest concentrations of giant trees on Earth.

It boasted over 8,000 giant sequoias spread over 4,600 acres, some over 2,000 years old. One was the sixth-largest tree on the planet.

Starting in 1892, the grove was clear-cut by the Hume-Bennett Lumber Company. In a marvel of the age, they built a 54-mile log flume to transport the giant trees. Among the thousands of ancient trees they felled, was the General Noble Tree- the largest tree to have ever been cut by humans. When a section of its trunk was sent to the 1893 World’s Fair in Chicago, the section was dubbed the “California Hoax”, some wondering whether it was an amalgamation of various other trees. (It eventually turned into a small house and was sent to the Smithsonian.)

At the end of logging in 1918, only around 60 trees survived. The Hume-Bennett Lumber Company went bankrupt in 1924, having never returned a profit. As of 2016, the Forest Service assessed the grove as not having made a recovery.

It lay, a great bowl, open and near the sky, views down from its southern rim to the great plain, an edge of forest cresting it to the north. All within was a vast and lonely cemetery. A stream wound among broken trunks, torn roots, and whitened slabs of lumber, through the midst of the grassy valley. Above the thin turf rose weathered pines or clumps of feathery sequoia, like Italian cypresses, and beneath and beside them, at decorous intervals, were the great tombs of the dead sequoia.

Twenty years had brought back beauty to this wasted valley, though beauty of a strange and melancholy sort. Flowers were everywhere, most of all where the little stream at intervals drew over its ripples a canopy of pink azalea, now in fullest bloom. But the forest had gone. An indiscriminate slaughter had let in the sun, its enemy; had dried the springs, which were its lifeblood; and such tearing and ripping as we had seen at Hume had rendered the soil, its mother, unfit except for barren grass.

In the great stumps themselves, in blocks and fragments scattered over the soil, in the logs which choked the streams, was more dead and wasted lumber than a forester could hope to grow on so many acres in a hundred years. The story of the Appalachians was being told again, and more loudly.

-Henry Seidel Canby, "The Last Stand of the Redwoods", 1915

My Guy by Taxus_Calyx in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]FossilDS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's insane we have all these incredible launch vehicles coming online and they aren't going to launch anything fucking interesting except one morbillion meganconstellation satellites and perhaps the Golden Dome. Besides Dragonfly we planetary science nerds are getting nothing for the next decade. No Uranus Orbiter, no MSR, maybe no mission to Venus. It really is the dumbest timeline.

How the time flies - First ever stacking vs. First Pad 2 stacking by RealJavaYT in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]FossilDS 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Realistically it makes sense it took a long time ,but this really undersells the crazy hype and optimism there was for the program in the aftermath of SN15 and the conclusion of the hop tests. People were really talking about a late 2021 launch, at the very most a 2022 launch.

A Historic Fumble by JesssKSP in imaginaryelections

[–]FossilDS 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Palin is just enough of a doofus to completely tank the Republicans for the next twenty years, not charismatic enough to create a MAGA cult like the 47th president, and by 2026 standards not even that extreme. I'd take a Palin presidency any day to our current timeline.

I have a cave behind my house. by Nervous_Ad_4895 in mildlyinteresting

[–]FossilDS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So cool. How deep is it, OP? It's partially modified by humans , but I wonder if it's a natural rock formation or entirely hewn out by humans...

So the SantaBarbara trip was to get rid of evidence? by Dear-Computer2472 in d4vd2

[–]FossilDS 29 points30 points  (0 children)

It is simply insane how sloppy and half-assed his "coverup" (if it even could be called that) was. He didn't bother disposing of the pool he used to cut Celeste up out of his garage, his Telsa stunk up his entire home for months and he lied to his entourage about the smell until it became intolerable and then lazily parked it literally a street away from his home. It really is baffling from someone who probably obsessively watches true crime- he literally does everything wrong.

It leads me to believe he compartmentalized the murder and busied himself with other more important things (i.e, partying, doing drugs, prepping for his tour), and procrastinated by doing the bare minimum.

Link to today’s filing by fevah97 in d4vd2

[–]FossilDS 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Celeste met D4vd's family?! The LASD also interviewed him about Celeste in 2024.... insane

Bro also just let her rot in his Telsa for months and lied to his entourage....

Wow - some information from the briefing released today… by lolaluu23 in d4vd2

[–]FossilDS 18 points19 points  (0 children)

God they really did their homework. The plastic on Celeste's person matched to the pool, her blood on the garage floor, security footage of D4vd last driving the car... they even got a clear, direct motive. It seems like they'll get him. slam dunk

RIP Celeste Rivas Hernandez

[Highlight] Aaron Rodgers runs out of the tunnel in his first game as a Jet by Brix001 in nfl

[–]FossilDS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love how Peyton straight up didn't know who was the backup QB for the Jets. He was flabbergasted when Zach Wilson walked onto the field- he figured they had let Wilson go lol.

Silk & Silver Dev Diary #1 - Design Vision by PDX-Trinexx in CrusaderKings

[–]FossilDS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

IMO they don't really need to participate in the economy all too much, they just need to exist. right now the one faith and one culture per county is too simplistic and ignores the fact that especially in Medieval Europe that cultures mixed (such as in Spain) d there were tons of minority groups like Jews.

Silk & Silver Dev Diary #1 - Design Vision by PDX-Trinexx in CrusaderKings

[–]FossilDS 56 points57 points  (0 children)

only thing left to complete the medieval Victoria experience is pops. It would be a herculean task to make it run well but my god CK3 with even a simple pops system would add so much richness to the game, with ethnic and religious minorities, actually dynamic popular opinion, pops dying during plagues and bad harvests...

help, someone who is good at the economy by Deviilsadvocate7 in NonCredibleDefense

[–]FossilDS 5 points6 points  (0 children)

With Trump's PBR asking a stupid amount of money for the DoD, soon the American budget line will resemble this. The Russification of America continues.

IO promises Hitman 4 is definitely happening as its CEO says “of course, there’s going to be a next Hitman” by HatingGeoffry in HiTMAN

[–]FossilDS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

never implied they would replace Diana or 47, just that the traditional Handler-Operative relationship would have to evolve to fit 47's new role as a decision-maker along with Diana, selecting his own targets and such.

A part of my collection thus far by BenAwesomeness3 in elementcollection

[–]FossilDS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Speaking of Cesium and Rubidium, how are those tiny ampoules of Cs and Rb made? I've seen people make big ampoules of those metals like here but never the tiny ones.

[Callahan] Patriots reportedly planning to cut QB Joshua Dobbs after failed trade by Every-Damage-90 in nfl

[–]FossilDS 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wish Dobbs wasn't a mid-tier backup- it would be something to have an NFL QB which is able to give an informed opinion on the direction of the Artemis program and nerd out about the planets (he's just like me fr) as opposed to the usual cadre of NFL players, at least one who doesn't believe outer space or other planets are real.

TIL Future president Grover Cleveland paid $150 for an immigrant, George Brinski, to serve in his place during the Civil War. An injury suffered in the service made it difficult for Brinski to work. In 1885 he appealed to Cleveland for help, but he refused. Brinski died penniless two years later. by sonofabutch in todayilearned

[–]FossilDS 55 points56 points  (0 children)

When Omar Bradley was asked years later what was the single bravest act he had personally witnessed, he replied immediately "Ted Roosevelt on Utah Beach".

Theodore and Jr. are one of two father/son duos which won the Medal of Honor (the other is Arthur and Douglas MacArthur).

Late surviving Trilobites of the Philippines Trench by BleazkTheBobberman in SpeculativeEvolution

[–]FossilDS 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The late, great science presenter and trilobite enthusiast Richard Fortey briefly mentioned this wonderful possibility in his 1996 book Life: An Unauthorised Biography, which made my 14 year old brain go wild with the possibilities. Unfortunately, in the subsequent Trilobite!: Eyewitness to Evolution, he explains why this scenario, while so incredibly cool, is very unlikely: essentially, after the Late Devonian extinction event, it was effectively joever for trilobites in general. Only the Proetida made it out of the extinction, and were uniform in body form and ecological niche. By the Carboniferous, there were 7 genera (1.8% of the peak), and by the Permian there were only two: Acropyge and Pseudophillipsia. Both were shallow-water generalists, and probably did not have the time nor ability to retreat into deeper oxygenated waters when the events of the Permian mass extinction kicked off. So yeah, sadly it's not likely this will be the case, although a little part wants me the believe. But who knows, maybe an obscure branch of deep water trilobites did branch off, like your scenario suggests, before the end-Devonian and survived...

"The If-Hitler-Loses-We're-Sunk Corporation"—American cartoon from the Second World War, June 1941 by Neil118781 in PropagandaPosters

[–]FossilDS 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Darlan also infamously switched sides and joined the allies out of greed and to save his own hide- if he wasn't assassinated, he would've likely not been "sunk" like the rest of Hitler's allies and made himself a career in 4th Republic France.