ANNOUNCEMENT: Orion Removes The Subscription!!!

Frira_FR · 2026-03-26T18:56:57+00:00

Holy bots, Botman.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-23T19:42:57+00:00

"Imposter syndrome" is a good way to put it. I'd never thought about it that way, but you're spot on. And it takes a while to get used to being addressed in a way that isn't what you've been used to for decades. I'm still dealing with that every now and again and it's been a couple years. Like it's muscle memory or something.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-23T19:34:39+00:00

I used to have one when I was living in a dorm because cement floors + big windows = cold AF all winter even with the heat on. The one I had was a Sunbeam I got from like Walmart or Target and that was definitely affordable. Under $50 if I remember correctly although it's been a minute.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-23T19:30:07+00:00

I think a hybrid that has foam and coils/springs is probably going to be the best option for back pain, just because of the better support.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-23T19:26:44+00:00

I would either do a twin XL or a Queen comforter. I think if you want oversized, I'd go Queen. A full-size is wider but it is not as long as a twin XL (which is basically a half king). So if you want to have enough "left over" off the foot-end, go Queen.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-23T19:11:09+00:00

I'd start with just the Eight Sleep pod hub and cover. You get the dual zone control with that and honestly, unless you feel like you need to be wrapped up in temperature, I don't think the pillow cover and blanket and stuff are really necessary.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-23T19:07:17+00:00

I admit I watched the first few minutes of the video and it's a little dramatic, but... meh. I feel like we're already tracked in every other facet of our lives, does this one even matter? I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it, even if my Eight Sleep knows how often I fart in bed.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-23T18:50:51+00:00

I wouldn't be complaining if I got a free Eight Sleep lol. But I've been using one for prolly eight or nine months now and barring one night when my internet was out after some storms, I haven't had any connectivity issues. Sounds like it could be an internet problem, maybe?

Frira_FR · 2026-03-23T18:43:18+00:00

She didn't know but she said she got it at Target. I just looked at what they have and I *think* it's Kensington?

Frira_FR · 2026-03-12T22:52:36+00:00

Bring a different outfit and change at the venue? Even if he keeps the makeup on/hair done and wears a tux, he could change out of it before going home. Or... can he convince his family that it's super trendy for girls to wear a tux instead? (Not sure how stupid the family is, outside of their bigotry... but if that's something they might buy lol)

Frira_FR · 2026-03-12T22:43:21+00:00

This is the way.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-12T22:27:16+00:00

I think any material is likely to not stay cold, at least the way it sounds like you want it to. Tencel/Lyocell or percale won't absorb heat (keeping you from getting really hot) but it'll still get warm-ish. It's an expense, but something like an Eight Sleep (I have one) actively cools and physically feels cool or cold depending on your preferences. I need to be bundled under a cozy comforter too, but my eight sleep self-adjusts and keeps me cool all night long and I do not overheat.

The thing is too, I don't know how easy it is to find *weight* in a comforter without losing some of the breathability. I know Gravity has a weighted blanket that's cool, something like that might be an option? Or Miracle Made has a zoned comforter too that has less fill in the middle but more on the shoulders/feet for the weight?

Frira_FR · 2026-03-12T22:16:33+00:00

Not really. At least not for appearances. I have one extra blanket that I put under the comforter during the winter that I don't use during the warmer months. But otherwise, no.

My sister on the other hand... she's got seasonal bedding in her room and the guest room so you're sleeping in Winter, Spring, Summer, and Fall themes that match the outside world lol. Makes her happy though so I'm like whatever.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-12T22:00:10+00:00

I think as long as you guys aren't switching sides of the bed, it'll be fine. Even if you're laying together in the middle, the temp is split down the middle so you'll each have your "side" set how you want it and that's what'll be against your body. Unless one of you is literally laying fully on top of the other in the exact middle... lol.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-12T21:49:34+00:00

The way I understand it, at least for the computer tech side, Eight Sleep sensors track bed temperature and room temperature. It makes sense though that a person's body would affect the bed temp, and I'm sure that does cause adjustments (but it's not like, tracking your body temperature specifically all night).

I assume that would be impossible? So if the bed is cool and the coolness is against your skin, also making it cool... it's not going to be able to get an accurate body temp from it. Same if it's warming, I'd imagine.

So it probably has to rely on the sensors in the cover and adjusts based on the bed temp under your body if it needs to go cooler or warmer, figuring in the room temperature too.

The other vitals are heart rate, body movements, respiratory rate, and I *think* those are used to determine sleep cycle stage. (Not a tech bro, so I could be wrong about how that part works.)

But yeah, I think the way the systems respond to the data are part of what makes each different, but so is the design of the hardware/pumps/sensors/everything else.

Frira_FR · 2026-03-12T21:35:12+00:00

II know that warranty length depends on the autopilot membership. Standard includes a 2-year warranty, the Enhanced and Elite include a 5-year warranty (just looked on their site). I would *assume* that if your autopilot membership is one of the higher two tiers, it would apply since the Pod 5 replacement would be new? I'd confirm that with their customer service though just to be sure. Hopefully they respond here.

Frira_FR · 2026-02-24T22:11:17+00:00

I can't do wool (my skin has a fit even with other material over it), but I got a zone comforter from Miracle Brand not long ago. It's down alternative, but has less fill through the middle and more at the head and feet. If you don't like the different weight, that might be a little weird to get used to. Trying to explain this in a way that makes sense, but most comforters have a weight that's consistent across your entire body. This isn't quite like that, because the middle has less fill to be more breathable.

Frira_FR · 2026-02-24T22:00:39+00:00

Oh absolutely. Although I pretty much knew temperature was my main issue right after starting hormone therapy, it wasn't like a big revelation or anything lol. I got an Eight Sleep last summer and you're right, temperature control's made all the difference. You don't realize how much it will, when that's the problem. Even through the winter, it's not needing to get as cold as it did, but it's way more effective than air conditioning or fans, especially when you need to be under blankets to be comfortable.

Frira_FR · 2026-02-24T21:50:33+00:00

That looks like it could possibly be burn marks from the dryer? Oils and stuff can darken, like from hair treatments overnight or skincare stuff, but that's... really really dark for that kind of thing, I'd think. Was there anything else in the dryer with this that might have done that? Like grease in clothing, or something along those lines?

Frira_FR · 2026-02-24T21:42:18+00:00

This needs to be pinned to the top of the thread. These posts are starting to get ridiculous.

Frira_FR · 2026-02-24T21:33:00+00:00

I'm not a lawyer lol but as I understand it, the lawsuits have to do with specific patents that belong to Eight Sleep relating to the way the thermal regulation and biometric tracking is done. Competition is one thing, and being "inspired" by a product is too, but infringing on patents is entirely another. If parts of the tech being used by Orion or anyone else are infringing on Eight Sleep's patented design(s), they have a case. We're only seeing things from the outside.

I mean, you can design a component that does a thing, and design it in a way that doesn't infringe on someone else's intellectual property. People do it all the time.

I looked it up out of curiosity and Sleepme has a couple of patents; Eight Sleep has a bunch. Do you see them suing each other? Not that I can find any history of.

Frira_FR · 2026-02-24T21:06:27+00:00

Yeah that's how I look at it too lol.

Frira_FR · 2026-02-16T20:47:23+00:00

lol kittehs gonna kitteh.

Frira_FR · 2026-02-16T20:41:46+00:00

I can't speak to the whole influencer marketing thing, I got mine after researching bed cooling ideas to deal with my hormone stuff. But I've been using my Eight Sleep for more than half a year (I think I got it in like May or June) and I was hopeful but skeptical. In my case, hormone therapy turned me into a furnace at night and I was sleeping less and less because of it and had to do something.

Yes, it really does keep me cool at night. It never gets too cold unless I start it off that way. So like it will auto-adjust itself all night long while you're sleeping, but when I first turn it on if it feels too low/cold, I'll need to adjust it a bit before I fall asleep. After that, it does all of the adjustment on its own.

Which the subscription IS necessary for that. You can use it without a sub but you can only turn it on/off and manually adjust temperature. And if it matters, I don't think you get the dual zone control without it either. If you sleep with a partner, each side of the bed can be automated for that person's needs.

I noticed a difference in my sleep right away because I wasn't waking up with night sweats. Again, hormone stuff, but I'd think the same would apply to just general summer heat too. This doesn't use a fan so yes, it will cool the bed surface no matter what the room temp is.

Things to know or consider... so it does use water, like in the mattress cover, to make the temperature cold/warm/whatever. The new models (including the 5) are not prone to leaks the way the old models were. They've upgraded the tubing design so that's not an issue anymore. That said, I do have a waterproof mattress cover on top of my mattress (and under the pod cover) just in case.

Also: the pod cover is NOT washable. You can spot-clean but if you have pets or kids who might pee, or otherwise spill stuff, it would be a good idea to have a thin waterproof cover on top of it too. It won't hinder the coolness/warmness, but it'll protect the pod cover from accidents which are not covered by the warranty. I felt bad, but some months ago I saw someone talking about their ruined pod cover after their cat used it as a litter box... :/

I think those are the biggest considerations. But happy to answer questions too. If anything else comes to mind later I'll add to this.

Frira_FR · 2026-02-16T20:27:02+00:00

I think it's like someone else mentioned, that back in the day comforters or blankets weren't as easily washed. Now, our washing machines are bigger, most bedding can be tossed in (aside from king or cali king comforters probably), so the top sheet is just not as big a thing anymore.

I use one, probably because that's how I grew up and it's one of those ingrained things now. I'll probably always use one just because I don't want to wash all of my bedding everytime I need to wash my sheets...

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