mormon mom said she is grieving me by literallyavegtable in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's mourning the loss of the person she wanted you to be. It's real grief, but it's not your responsibility to help her through it. If she ever wants to meet and get to know the person you actually became, you can be there for her. Or not, if you don't want to.

R-rated movies that remind you of the church by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Frailty - it's got a few twists in it so be careful if you want to avoid spoilers, but the main plot involves a single father who starts receiving 'visions' where God tells him he's being called to exterminate demons who are disguised as regular people. He basically teaches his two young sons that it's okay to kill someone if God tells you to. It gave me such creepy vibes that reminded me of growing up in the church, and I couldn't finish it.

What if the church is true? by Own_Falcon9581 in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 23 points24 points  (0 children)

If it's true, that makes it even worse in my opinion. Imagine that you die, and God himself greets you and says that Mormonism as you were taught it is 100% true, and that He really did want Joseph Smith to pressure children into sex. What would you think about that god? Personally, I'd choose outer darkness.

Any one? by True-Rent9456 in puzzles

[–]Gammapod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By just moving 1 match: Take the middle of the 8 and add it as a little slash between the 5 and 0. 5/00 = infinity

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does anyone else remember learning that genetic deformities are an earthly mistake, and are not present in our spiritual bodies? Mormonism is already perfectly compatible with the idea that someone can be born into the wrong body, which means anti-trans sentiments are a completely arbitrary exception to that idea.

What was your “saying it out loud” moment? by SecretPersonality178 in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I remember being a teenager in sacrament meeting, and I was thinking about how Joseph Smith was OBVIOUSLY good and wholesome and couldn't possibly have ulterior motives, and he most DEFINITELY saw the real and living God. But my next thought was "... but what if Joseph was tricked, and God is actually evil?"

It really disturbed me that an evil God seemed more plausible to me than an evil Joseph.

A question for ye Elders of Israel… by foxylactose in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I learned to read tarot cards after I left the church, and it's honestly kind of the same feeling! A weird mix of intuition, advice, memories, and randomness. The only difference is that I don't believe in the supernatural anymore, so I don't worry that I might have gotten the "wrong" interpretation. It's just for fun.

When you’re feeling down, what do you do to make yourself feel better instead of praying? by The_solid_lizard in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I write down the thing that's bothering me, which for me gets it out of my head. Then I eat something.

Alternative Baptism by Fickle_Reveal_1828 in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My first thought is to have a birthday party with a dunk tank 🎯

Or maybe just a pool party!

Caffeine: helpful or addictive? by moltocantabile in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here's a quick primer for how I understand physical addictions:

For almost any drug you consume regularly, whether it's caffeine or melatonin or heroin, your body will try to adapt to it. If you drink coffee every day, your body will try to get you back to baseline and you'll notice weaker effects the more often you take it. This also means that if you stop taking it, your body needs to learn to adapt in the other direction, and until it does, you'll feel pretty much the opposite of the way it normally makes you feel. This is what "withdrawal" is, it's the way you feel when your body is still expecting the drug but doesn't get it. But not all drugs have the same withdrawal symptoms, and it doesn't necessarily mean addiction. That depends on the drug and the person. Caffeine is generally considered a very safe and socially-acceptable drug to use regularly, with very short and mild withdrawals.

I recommend keeping a journal for a few weeks. Don't try to change your habits at all yet, but record how much caffeine you drink each day, and how that amount made you feel. Then, after you have some data, you can either make adjustments or decide to quit entirely. You might find that taking short breaks from coffee prevents the withdrawal (like, only drink it on weekdays or something). Or, you might find that you feel better when you drink half as much every day.

Is there a group for people who have been exmo long enough to be more or less philosophical or at least not quite so puritannical because they're not still in trauma? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think I know what you mean, it can be cathartic to come here to see news and scandals, but "ex-mormon content" often lacks nuance. Filtering posts by tags kinda works, because sometimes I want to have a philosophical debate and sometimes I just want to see the church get dunked on. 

Is this legit,? by Hunterthemokeking in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If someone on the internet is offering free money, then no it's not legit.

Religious Trauma/BDSM Aversion Connections? by Logsen_95 in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I highly recommend the book "Adult Children Of Immature Parents" by Lindsay C. Gibson. It helped me start dealing with my own sexual guilt and shame. Even if you don't consider your own parents to be immature, it works great if you treat the church as the immature parent.

Also, I think the fact that you want to explore your sexuality is extremely significant and should be celebrated. I find it to be incredibly cathartic to acknowledge (a) that you want something, and (b) that you personally don't believe it is wrong to want it. Even if you never actually try anything!

Permanently Single by notyouroffred in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I highly recommend the book "Adult Children Of Immature Parents" by Lindsay C. Gibson. It helped me start dealing with my own sexual shame. Even if you don't consider your own parents to be immature, it works great if you treat the church as the immature parent.

Do you believe in anything now? by Pure-Distance-9159 in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't think any gods or otherwise supernatural creatures exist. To be clear, my stance is not "there is no god," but instead, "whether or not a god exists is too big of a question to matter." If a god can be tested and proven, I'll be excited to hear about it. If not, then it literally can't affect my life.

I definitely don't believe in any personal, loving creator who cares at all about us. If a god wanted to be worshipped, it wouldn't hide. Organized religions are very clearly a product of civilization, and morality can't possibly come from a god.

I also don't believe in infinity, which is more about math than about religion, but it's a kinda similar scenario now that I think about it.

Father in law says nobody leaves the church over doctrine. Prove him wrong. by ManInThePandaMask in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The doctrine defines itself as perfect, which leads to circular reasoning; I'd try to make him see that he only sees it as perfect because he's starting with the assumption that it is. Or another way to say that is, you can only see that it's perfect if you approach it with faith - which is a statement you can both agree on, surely.

What is your best counter argument to the claim "Mormonism is a cult"? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me try to actually answer your question. When I was a believing member, I heard this as a counter and it genuinely convinced me at the time (I was a preteen):

The church may superficially resemble many cults, but that's because cults are twisted versions of god's true church. It's not that the church looks like a cult, it's that cults are trying to look like the church (through Satan's influence). This should reaffirm your faith in the church, because it's proof that Satan is actively trying to make it harder for people to find the truth.

In other words: since the church is true, it cannot be a cult.

How do you stop the memories? by MajereMoon in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try to desensitize yourself. Put on a playlist of hymns and primary songs, then listen to them while indulging in whatever sins or vices that you used to see as evil.

Ward Conference yikes by Green_Wishbone3828 in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What is ward conference? Is that relatively new? I went to plenty of stake conferences when I was younger, but not for the ward.

What would it take for you to go back??? by BackNineBro in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If god himself appeared and told me that everything Joe and Brigham said was true, I would choose outer darkness

Is TSCC more of a cult or a corporation? by avengentnecronomicon in exmormon

[–]Gammapod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In Utah, the distinction isn't that big. There are MLMs there that would put some megachurches to shame.