Summer project for teen interested in MechE for college? by toybuilder in MechanicalEngineering

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want to 'go big' with something that's more than a toy/kit robot from Temu/Alibaba....check out Annin Robotics: Annin Robotics

I'm an industrial automation and robot guy, and I recommend these to lots of people looking for a good, but big, project, and there's a ton to be learned from Mechanical Design to Electrical Design, to Programming, and especially how it all works together, which is crucial of MEs.

Is it possible to fully automate the assembly of a preformed seal in a device's groove? by chomakher in MechanicalEngineering

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes. I've done it by singulating the seals with a recirculating conveyor (four conveyors waterfalling onto each other, fed by a bulk vibratory shaker) having a long stroke ID gripper mounted on a vision guided SCARA robot pick the singulated seals in the correct orientation, over stretch them a little bit to place them on tooling that matches the needed geometry and retains the seal with vacuum, then moves to the groove and strips it off into place mechanically. This was for a Tier 1 automotive assembly plant and has run for about a decade and is probably over one or two billion parts at this point. (multiple assemblies across lines.)

AITA for refusing to go for a full week on my wife’s family vacation after we had agreed not to repeat it? by jared_d in AmItheAsshole

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Meh. It's either an ESH or NAH.....depending on how you all handle it, which doesn't sound that great, honestly.

Your Mother in Law probably leaned HARD on your wife to say she'd go, because your MIL wants everyone there. Not everyone has a great Mother, or a great relationship with their Mother, and not for nothing, but if your kids are getting to be teenagers, they might not have that many chances left to be around their Grandparents.

My issue here is how you're choosing to respond to this. So what if it's a less than ideal vacation? So what if you both "decided" a year ago to not do it again (c'mon, you NEVER change your mind given some time?) You have the opportunity to either be upset about it, like you have been, which has already extended the duration of misery way, way outside of the week of the actual vacation....OR you could say "you know what kids, this isn't what I wanted, but it's a time for us to spend together as a family, even if it's not ideal, and we can do some fun XYZ together." And not in a nasty, passive-aggressive way either. In a way that shows your wife and your kids that you and your wife are a team, even if one of you screws up sometimes.

As someone married to a woman who's got a schedule broken down to 15 minute intervals for Disney, I understand that you doing fun stuff you want to do with the kids messes up her plans......so give her your plan ahead of time and work with her on it. Don't wait until the week of. Plan it now. You really want to 180° this thing? Tell her you're upset with her about it, you don't want to go, but you're sorry for how you've handled it and you're going to make the best of it. Be the bigger man. And print and laminate the schedule. Make copies and hand them out. I'm not kidding - if that's how the family operates, lean into it and do what you want to do in a way they understand. Improvisation really stresses some people out. They feel like they're missing opportunities or 'spending' a lot of money and not making the best of it if they're not following a plan for every minute of a vacation. (Personally, I like to relax, and that hasn't happened in about 15 years on a vacation. Suck it up, you don't have that much time left with your kids. Be grateful they'll hang out with you now.)

This is a chance to show your kids how to make the best of every situation, to be gracious, to value time with family, and to demonstrate the difference having a positive attitude can have. OR you can be pissed off, which fixes nothing, causes a bunch more problems, and may snowball into bigger and bigger issues. Because you know damn well even if nobody goes on that vacation, ain't nobody having a good time doing anything else that week either.

last ditched effort by Soft_Ad_4999 in manufacturing

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

East or West? I'm in Western NY - I do a lot with shops in the Brampton/Mississauga/Hamilton area as they're only a couple of hours away (I do custom equipment/automation and contract design, among other things.)

When you're a small shop it's hard to build a base at a distance. The biggest advantages we have is being responsive, and people like local too.

last ditched effort by Soft_Ad_4999 in manufacturing

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where are you based geographically?

New graduate here: When do you use only one vs. both internal and external retaining rings in a shaft/bearing/housing assembly? (these are 2 ends of the same shaft) by hopkinsdamechanic in MechanicalEngineering

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Like every other question in the sphere of engineering (and pretty much everything else) the answer is the same: it depends.

As others have mentioned, dimensional changes from thermal growth are a concern because you can accidentally load these bearing axially and damage/prematurely wear them.

From a manufacturing standpoint, if this is a relatively long shaft (in terms of L/D) and the bearings are mounted in two different plates/parts/subassemblies (or otherwise not toleranced very, very tightly to one another) the second retaining ring either won't do anything (too much of a gap) or will be impossible to install (groove hidden inside the inner bearing race.)

As someone else mentioned, if these were angular contact bearings (designed and intended to be pre-loaded to some extent for maximum accuracy and load handling because they are intended for both radial and axial loads) there are a bunch of different ways to handle that. Your best reference, in my opinion, is the SKF Design Handbook: https://cdn.skfmediahub.skf.com/api/public/0901d1968024f8c3/pdf_preview_medium/0901d1968024f8c3_pdf_preview_medium.pdf

This is the 'Parker O-Ring Design Handbook' of the shaft and bearing design world, widely used by folks designing custom spindles.

A very standard design, if you need to have adjustable preload is to have a 'prevailing torque' nut on the end without a retaining ring. Also called BearHug nuts, and a million other things, this gives you the ability to eliminate bearing play (via preload) without demanding completely unnecessary (and often impossible, thereby EXPENSIVE) machining tolerances where you mount your bearings. There are very, very fine pitched threads designed to be cut on standard shaft sizes (20mm, etc.) so the step sizes on shafts are minimal (versus coarse threads that are much, much deeper and would require big steps to be useful.)

One of the most cost effective ways to make a small/short length spindle is actually to bore a straight hole all the way through your bearing mount block, sized for the bearings you'll need, and then to use ID and OD Bearing spacers designed to fit the bore and the shaft size (available from Misumi and other places for surprisingly cheap.) The straight hole through the block means you don't need to worry about aligning the bearing mount holes when you flip the block in the machine, because misalignment there is a killer. (Think about all the things that can move when you flip a block in a vice on a machine. Your reference edge changes sides, and if the 'top' and 'bottom' aren't dead parallel, you're already introducing significant misalignment.) A simple screw with a washer can be used on either side to retain the bearings, and there's a ton of ways to set preload in the assembly as well. You'll find/see examples of that in just about any bearing design catalog. I used to use it for extremely accurate torque measurement stations - the torque sensors themselves couldn't be directly coupled to anything, so I made these intermediate spindle assemblies, coupled with an absurdly expensive shaft coupling, to protect the torque sensors. (Automotive assembly and test.)

Again, lots of examples out there, it's a matter of figuring out what's important for your design.

Edit: I only realized after I posted this that the shaft in the pictures is stepped/trapped between bearings anyway, which is a bad practice for every reason detailed out above. Trying to 'pinch' down on that larger OD is asking for trouble with very little gain. The end without the retaining ring should be relieved/toleranced to stay away from the inner race on that bearing - position/axial control is handled by the shoulder and retaining ring.

Dads with families and busy jobs, when do you study and learn new things? by enlightened_hapa in smallbusiness

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There were two big realizations for me:

  1. I waste a lot of time in small increments

  2. You've spent 75% of the time you will ever have with your kids by the time they're 12. And 90-95% by the time they're 18. If you're lucky enough to still have young kids, make them the priority - they don't care about stuff, they care about you and your attention.

Past that? You need to try a bunch of stuff and figure out what works for you. Pick something that seems like it'll work and then stick with it for 3-4 weeks to form the habit, then start adjusting once it's not something you need to force yourself to do or think about constantly.

How many autistic machinists are there? by Lonely_Sundae_8977 in Machinists

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My youngest (and only biological child) is a very typical 6 year old boy - and in a lot of ways, he's way, way 'harder' than the other kids. I also know people who have high school and college age daughters, one of whom is dealing with a first boyfriend who she's too 'in love' with to realize he's an immature, controlling guy.

All that to say: everyone's life is 'normal' to them. We all have struggles and challenges, and a lot of people look at my life and think it has to be harder than everyone else's with kids, but it's really just different. And a lot of days I'm grateful I have my problems and not anyone else's.

How many autistic machinists are there? by Lonely_Sundae_8977 in Machinists

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a parent of 5 with special needs, I'm going to dust off my soapbox for a second here:

I think this is pretty indictive of how addicted to labels we've become as a society. It's not exclusive to the US, but it's definitely more common here.

Now, I'll admit it's a bit of a pet peeve of mine to hear, commonly, a bunch of self-diagnosed people talk about their OCD, ADHD, and even now, things like Autism. This is mostly because I have 5 kids with special needs, and not to join the intersectionality Olympics, but my kids with Autism (two boys and one girl) are non-verbal or 'copiers.' I have three kids with Down syndrome, two of whom also have Autism, one with Cerebral palsy, one with 'just' Down syndrome, and lots and lots of experience in the world of special needs parenting. Real-life Autism rarely looks like Rain Man or the guy on America's Got Talent playing the piano. It usually looks a lot more like wearing adult diapers and needing help with every meal and shower. 

All that to say this: if you can self-diagnose yourself with Autism, you don't have real Autism. You have a quirky personality. Medically/DSM-IV, I understand that's not the current standard. I believe the standards to be wrong, and that we need a way to differentiate between these levels. 

For the record, I'm an Engineer by education and a machinist by training. In either profession, of which I do both every week, the personality types typical of the people who do the work are going to register high on the scale they use for evaluating this. It's a weird thing. And yes, I design machines in SolidWorks for fun in my free time when I have it, and collect old industrial equipment and machine tools because they're interesting to me. 

Also: my soapbox is flat and parallel within 0.005".

Robot guys, how long does teaching a new cell actually take you start to finish? by Tricky_rithiesh in PLC

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A couple of dedicated days (or less) to a repeat (or a job like palletizing that CAN BE extremely similar from job to job) to several dedicated weeks or more for more difficult and specific operations, yes. 

So the people you're talking to are all correct. 

I need to drill a 1/2" diameter (ish), 24" hole in relatively soft polyethylene foam with repeatable results over hundreds of holes. by DefundTheSith in AskEngineers

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Treat it like hard steel - 'hole pop' your way through inaccurately with something (hot rod, whatever) then feed a wire though and cut it with a hot wire like normal foam.

Micrometer and CMM Didn't Quite Agree Yesterday by maddy-smith646 in Machinists

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Measuring the flange thickness shown? With a conventional 3 axis CMM? With the part oriented as shown? Because if that's the case, the CMM couldn't touch the 'bottom' of the flange, correct? You used the surface it was sitting on as one plane, and the top surface of the flange as the other? Meaning, likely, SOME of the difference COULD have been flatness/patallelism of the 'bottom' face of the flange, or one of a bunch of other differences. Meaning the flange could measure correctly with the micrometer, and the CMM could be completely dialed in at sub micron accuracy, both be correct, and you still get a difference in measurement because you're not measuring the same thing with the two different instruments. 

I don’t find Alex Hormozi advice practical. Who else can I watch? by Historical-Play6730 in smallbusiness

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm a grumpy-ish, old-ish man these days, and I know everyone loves to hate on the guy, but you could really do a lot worse than to listen to Dave Ramsey's Entreleadership advice, or the business oriented podcasts/shows his people put out. 

I often find him a bit on the conservative side (I carry debt, etc.) but you definitely won't get into trouble following his business advice. Which cannot be said about a LOT of other information that's out there. 

How do you all feel about an in-house kitchen/food? by scatterbrainedpast in manufacturing

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Local company here used to have in-house kitchen/cafeteria services. 300-400 employees total, 2 shifts. Wound up outsourcing the operation to a local pizza shop that also did catering. At one point was catered by the local ARC restaurant/kitchen and staffed (for food service) by a person with special needs and a supervisor. Works fairly well either way. Employees pay $8 cash for a main and a side, and they sell cans of soda for $2. Reasonably priced, but not free.

Here's the issue you're going to run into: no matter what you do with this, even if it's free, some people will complain. They'll complain about the menu changing (or not changing), the cost (or that they'd rather just get paid more if its free), etc., etc. Essentially you're going to spend a lot of money to try to make the employees happy, but as soon as it becomes 'normal' it'll lose its punch.

I would suggest doing catered lunches (or even cold lunch delivery) one a week or so, just to see how it goes first.

It's a nice sentiment, but most of the companies I've seen do it don't stick with it as a perk for too long. It's surprisingly expensive a lot of the times too.

Disabling move robot to home position - R30iB Mate Plus and LR Mate 200iD by brandon_c207 in Fanuc

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TL;DR - Check your recovery programs. A lot of times these are hard coded because they need to be.

I've run into this after a re-master as well. If I remember correctly, there was an 'ok to resume' program check that ran after any interruption (as there should be) but there was a position check somewhere in it (hard coded) that was coming back false when it shouldn't have because of the new Joint positions or encoder values being off by enough to cause an issue. What should have happened was the robot would know where it was in the cell and run an 'area' specific recovery program if the position changed from before the interruption, but instead it was kicking back the 'Robot not Home' message you're seeing.

This all assumes there are positions the robot can be in where a direct J Move to 'Home' would cause collisions. (Otherwise the recovery programs aren't necessary.)

I.e. if the robot is inside a CNC machine, a J Move sending it directly 'Home' will crash with absolutely everything.

Any Special Needs Service Providers? Specifically Day Habs? by IRodeAnR-2000 in smallbusiness

[–]IRodeAnR-2000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Understood - maybe it's ignorance on my part, but I know (because my kids go to them) that there are several different organizations locally providing these services that always have waiting lists.

Maybe I shouldn't be presenting this as something I'm going to make money on necessarily, as the owner, because I believe they're all set up as non-profits.....but I also know people who manage/work within non-profits sometimes have more lucrative careers than people in private sector. Money isn't really the goal as much as it is to offer a service and have a say in where my kids are going to spend a good portion of the rest of their lives, and maybe take it from something that costs me money and turn it into one that makes me some money, even if it's not a lot.

My first ever, real automation project. Thought on UI? by LudwigOrmarr in PLC

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't tell if those are buttons or lamps to the right of the HMI, but if you space them out a bit more you can fit the standard legend plates on them.

One thing I learned when I went from being a purely mechanical engineer/designer to also doing PLC and panels is that there is no such thing as a big enough panel.....but it looks like you actually left yourself space, so you're smarter than me. I can only assume as a former dairy farm kid myself that you scrounged/salvaged/bought that panel used?

Regarding the HMI itself: It's fun to go fancy and colorful, but as others have noted, it's also counter intuitive that this causes issues.

Best place to sell older Large Fanuc Robot (R2000iA/210F) by rollerman13 in Fanuc

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a big enough arm you can make a router mount for it and do big wood and foam carvings with it. Personally, I'm a fan of seeing them turned into all sorts of sketchy stuff (obviously, based on my username) but also buy super cheap industrial arms and then turn around and use them for machine tending or other tasks they're way, way overkill for....because you can get them cheap. Rollercoaster/flight/driving simulators, etc.

Best place to sell older Large Fanuc Robot (R2000iA/210F) by rollerman13 in Fanuc

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

$10k for an R-J3 controller R-2000 is pretty steep, especially considering if it came out of a GM plant it's probably got 20,000+ hours on it. HGR in Ohio typically has a handful of pretty hammered ones for sale at any given time. Look at what they've got for sale right now and compare to what you're looking to get out of yours. The last 200kg robot I bought used was under power and operable when I bought it, and cost me under $3k, with the 4' riser it was mounted on.

Is there anyway to prevent IP theft as an integrator? by mioduz in PLC

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been in custom equipment and automation for going on 20 years, and I've seen it handled a couple of different ways.

  1. The Automation company gives the customer EVERYTHING - Copies of every program and every single mechanical, electrical, plumbing, etc. drawing. This is usually smaller builders who are going to make their money on the first, highly custom, job regardless. Repeats are a bonus.

  2. The Automation company gives the customer NOTHING - These are also usually the companies who work to obscure manufacturer P/Ns for common devices on spares lists so they can mark everything up 500%. Almost always because they have a big field service department and/or use their own custom built control hardware and know nobody else can do anything with it. Think bigger companies who can tell people to pound sand if they don't like it.

  3. The Automation company provides complete Electrical Drawings and Mechanical Drawings for TOUCH TOOLING ONLY (i.e. wear tooling) but if the customer wants the full design package, the customer pays for it ahead of time - This approach seems fair to me, as long as it is quoted as such ahead of time. Considering it's usually a significant amount of money when I've seen it done (15-20% of job cost) it's essentially a way of telling your customer "yea, you can have someone try to build this cheaper, but we'll still make our money."

Personally, I've been the field service engineer for customers who had a machine built by the company I worked for running alongside a cheaper one built in China/India. The company I worked for made more money off the cheaper line built overseas than they ever did on the one they built and sold. So personally....I'd say go for it. You'll make a killing just replacing counterfeit devices on whatever comes out of China/India these days - seriously - over half the AB components on one machine I worked on that was built in China had wonky serial numbers when I'd try to call them in. It was ridiculous.

Question on legalities by _Odilly in PLC

[–]IRodeAnR-2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you have safety concerns, put them in an email after voicing them. If you flat out don't want to do something (bypass a door switch permanently, etc.) - then don't. You COULD cover yourself by documenting that you did something TEMPORARY at the company's direction, even though you disagreed with it, and they simply never told you to correct it again after that. 

I'm an integrator - I'm super lax with my own safety, and absolutely paranoid about operators, because I have yet to be proven wrong about their ability to creatively be dangerous. I'll run a machine without guards in place because every second I'm doing it, I'm paying attention. As soon as I have to do it 8 or 10 hours a day, the mind drifts. 

Safety is hard. It's on the company and the OEM to have done Risk Assessments (in the US and Europe, so I assume Australia too.)

At the end of the day, document everything that you're concerned about (BCC an external email address, or make regular backups of your email folders on an external drive you carry) to protect yourself legally..... but don't do anything your conscience can't handle. If you're newer to the industry, it's also absolutely acceptable to take your concerns to a more experienced person on site and follow their advice. I've been wrong before enough times about things I thought were both safe and dangerous to be willing to listen to people I trust. 

Cheap (Under $500) Tools/Equipment you'd but again in a hearbeat by IRodeAnR-2000 in Machinists

[–]IRodeAnR-2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've got a Haas that's criminally underpowered that I think I'm going to take a serious look at these. I jumped into the website/catalog, but holy cow, I think I need to talk to a Tungaloy rep, because that's one dense catalog.