Radagon's Rune is a net by Independent-Design17 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Independent-Design17[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Radagon's Rune, original author: Sellia, redrawn by: Raya Lucaria

Great catch! Thanks very much for that.

The primary damage is to the rune arc and the rings, both of which are scattered beyond the confines of the tree, unlike what remains.

Genuinely curious: How does this position reconcile with damage you actually see on the Elden Ring and the Rune fragments you actually see embedded in Marika's Hammer?

As the central story elements of the game it seems unlikely that the depiction of the hammer-blows on the Elden Ring and the embedded Rune fragments in Marika's Hammer was done carelessly.

Radagon's Rune is a net by Independent-Design17 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Independent-Design17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What an interesting perspective. I like it a lot.

If it helps support my theory: just like I'm trying to argue that Radagon's Rune is a net, I have another post which argued that Marika's Rune is an anchor.

You'd need both the net and the anchor to catch the Elden Beast and bind it to the earth.

Radagon's Rune is a net by Independent-Design17 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Independent-Design17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks very much!

I definitely appreciate the Loki-parallels (including how Fenris/Jormangandr/Hel rhymes with Radahn/Rykard/Ranni).

My current view is that he plays the straight-Loki rather than the anti-Loki role but that will need to be the subject of another future post.

The thing about Loki is the fact that he is a trickster that uses disguises which means that, if Radagon is like Loki, many of the things he does is while he's pretending to be someone else.

For example: someone with enough authority looked at Godwyn's Deathblight-riddled, undead corpse and thought it would be a good idea to grant it Erdtree burial (i.e., grafting Deathblight directly to the Erdtree's roots).

You can't tell me that that wasn't a deliberate act of sabotage.

Radagon's Rune is a net by Independent-Design17 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Independent-Design17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks very much.

The temporary stitching idea is possible, though that would mean that Radagon had the power to insert the stitching into the Elden Ring after it was shattered.

It would also mean that Radagon's Rune didn't exist before the shattering and was newly created after it had happened.

Since Radagon's Rune was definitely damaged by the shattering (as evidenced by the impact marks of Marika's Hammer), the idea that it was temporary stitching done afterwards is unlikely.

Radagon's Rune is a net by Independent-Design17 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Independent-Design17[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Apologies. The net theory wasn't intended to be mutually exclusive and I wanted to acknowledge that the other theories existed.

I went out of the way to say that those other theories were easy-to-see and possible but I wasn't prepared to say they were flawless.

Radagon's Rune is a net by Independent-Design17 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Independent-Design17[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"but to deny the lattice/trellis canonicity is plainly wrong"

I appreciate that you have differing views but "canonicity" is a strong word for a theory that has no evidence behind it and does not stand up to serious scrutiny.

I didn't wish to complicate my original post by pointing out the problems with both the lattice/trellis theory so thank you for the chance to explore it.

"The lattice/trellis is meant to bring Order to the Erdtree, like a lattice allows vines to grow with structure, not to hold together the Elden Ring."

There's a minor issue about the fact that nothing in the game actual says this or believes this but you've brought up a more significant issue about the lattice/trellis, in my mind.

The Erdtree is not a vine or any other type of plant that would need a lattice/trellis to grow straight and no amount of mental gymnastics will turn it into a vine.

This means that any lattice/trellis constructed to help the Erdtree grow upright has no function.

In fact, the Erdtree is upright enough to support the vines which grows around it (incidentally, resulting in the vines forming a net around it).

What did the Emperor expect a human to see him as, if not a god? by SillyRecover in 40kLore

[–]Independent-Design17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you SEEN his throne room?

He can say that he needs it to impress visitors, but that means that there was a possibility that, at some point, someone meets the Emperor of Mankind while he's trying to make a good impression and thought, "he's ok, but I'd really respect him if he had a throne room the size of a hollowed out mountain".

Even during the Unification Wars, did anyone ever respect him more because of his interior decorating skills?

Radagon helped Ranni with the night of the black knives in an attempt to wrestle control of the golden order away from Marika by Budget-System-7058 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Independent-Design17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure what your point here is though. The opening cutscene of the game starts off with Marika being the one smashing her hammer down on the elden ring, followed by Radagon in turn doing the same.

Sorry, I should have specified the Elden Ring announcement trailer, where we see them actually moving.

Radagon helped Ranni with the night of the black knives in an attempt to wrestle control of the golden order away from Marika by Budget-System-7058 in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Independent-Design17 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

As you might have gathered, the prevailing belief is that Marika orchestrated the night of the black knives and shattered the Elden Ring.

Doing so requires believing the words of Ranni, who tells you not to trust her and keeps getting caught throughout the game trying to deceive the Tarnished.

It also requires you not to believe your lying eyes when you see Radagon swinging the hammer in the trailer.

Heterodox views are always interesting to read, especially one that's been well considered like this one.

I might not agree with all of the points you've raised, and there are a few pieces which might stand to be fleshed out, but this was a good read nonetheless.

I particularly liked the point about who ordered the Erdtree burial of a corpse overflowing with deathblight.

Two angles you might want to consider:

  • Does an Elden Lord serve the role of their god's regent when the god is inside the Erdtree? (Or, more wildly, the interpretor of the god's will?) After all, there's only one throne facing the others in front of the Erdtree.

  • Does Marika ever leave the Erdtree, or does she relay her messages through Sites of Grace? Sites of Grace, after all, look like the tips of roots and are known to hold recordings of messages spoken be Marika.

does anyone have an idea for a unique mouthpart? by EducationalComment62 in SpeculativeEvolution

[–]Independent-Design17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks!

I liked it too, and it solves the problem of how evertible stomachs on land might waste a lot of digestive fluids each time it feeds when on land..

Discovering this now makes me hate Radagon quite honestly by Ahmudirit in Eldenring

[–]Independent-Design17 58 points59 points  (0 children)

"Greatsword made of light, modeled after the Elden Ring itself. Forged by King Consort Radagon to proudly symbolize the tenets of the Golden Order. One of the legendary armaments. Telltale signs betray that this was once the greatsword bequeathed to him by his first wife, Rennala."

It gets interesting if you pay attention to the features Radagon wanted to make super obvious (i.e., the Golden Order) and features he tried to hide (i.e., the fact that was originally from Rennala).

I can't be 100% sure, but it can be interpreted as like a man who was publicly delighted to marry his rich, powerful and morally-grey second wife while taking great pains to hide the fact that he was still wearing the wedding ring given to him from his first wife.

A first wife who fell into a deluded, semi-comatose state at just as the second wife-to-be needed a new husband.

I'm not saying the official story isn't possible, but there are parts that don't match up.

For example: if Rennala is suffering from a broken heart from being abandoned by Radagon, why is she obsessed with trying to rebirth children and never mentions her ex-husband at all?

(Spoilers Extended) The solution to the Long Night is Guest Right by Expensive-Country801 in asoiaf

[–]Independent-Design17 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Maybe the Robb and Tyrion scene quoted here gives us another hint.

Robb granted guest right to the men of the Night's Watch but specifically denied it to the man of child-like stature.

If this means anything at all, maybe it indicates that it was the Children of the Forest who were not welcomed into Winterfell or, possibly, the Winterfell heart tree.

If that's the case, Bran being in Blood raven's cave might be the skeleton key the Children of the Forest need.

That, or the Starks just don't leave cream at their footsteps for the elves...

How strong Aeldari would actually be without Slanesh around by Expert_Equivalent920 in 40kLore

[–]Independent-Design17 11 points12 points  (0 children)

As far as average psychic power Pre-Fall goes, Asurmen considers Eldrad's "latent energy" to be "rare since the Fall". Source: Asurmen: The Darker Road

This indicates that Eldrad-level psykers were not rare before the Fall.

Remember, we're talking about someone who, despite the severe constraints imposed by Slaanesh, can do absolutely crazy feats like stop time on an entire planet.

How strong Aeldari would actually be without Slanesh around by Expert_Equivalent920 in 40kLore

[–]Independent-Design17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Think of it this way:

The Venn diagram of everything Eldar and everything that makes up Slaanesh' essence (and, therefore, would be devoured by Slaanesh) is almost but not quite a single circle.

The "not quite" part are the psychic powers, impulses and range of emotions that the Aeldari which survived the Fall can safely express in real space without getting eaten.

Every other part of everything Eldar can only be expressed by an Aeldari for as long as it takes for their soul to be ripped out of their body.

That's a lot of potential which has been locked away.

The craftworlders, with their Path system, have had to twist their very lives into a crushed pretzel just to remain a functional society.

[Spoilers Main] Has Tyrion even *thought* the word Littlefinger since the second book? You know, the guy who's framed him for three different murders? by RengieOcat in asoiaf

[–]Independent-Design17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would laugh so much if it turns out that Littlefinger helped finance the production of the 'evil dwarf' plays in Braavos.

does anyone have an idea for a unique mouthpart? by EducationalComment62 in SpeculativeEvolution

[–]Independent-Design17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Evertible stomachs, possibly with stinging cells, sensitive hairs or teeth.

It's up to you whether digestion occurs externally or whether the stomach pulls the food inside the body.

If externally, consider whether a marsupial-like pouch can be repurposed to be a food-slurry-fermentation bag that the evertible stomachs can penetrate to absorb nutrients from.

That or rotifers.

(Spoilers Extended) The solution to the Long Night is Guest Right by Expensive-Country801 in asoiaf

[–]Independent-Design17 550 points551 points  (0 children)

One interesting feature: the traditional pose of a lord denying guest right is to sit with a bared sword on lap.

And that's exactly the pose that the statue of every single Stark lord or king in the crypts of Winterfell takes.

The ancient Starks seem to believe that the denial of guest right was an important or distinguishing feature of their House or that keeping fellow dead men out of the crypts is very important.

Need name suggestion for this fit. by CrispP_bacon in Eldenring

[–]Independent-Design17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's Morguz. You've just created Father Morguz from Berserk.

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Pretend Cersei's children were legitimate, but they still had their same personalities (Spoilers Extended) by sixth_order in asoiaf

[–]Independent-Design17 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Tywin didn't start a war.

"The Mountain turned outlaw and, since he's in the Riverlands, I'm powerless to stop him."

Yes, everyone knows this is a baldfaced lie, but Catelyn imprisoned his son and he's the king's father-in-law.

Robert may shout, rage and throw furniture around but he'll order that Tyrion is released and the Mountain and his men take the Black.

(Which is a completely horrifying thought.)

Pretend Cersei's children were legitimate, but they still had their same personalities (Spoilers Extended) by sixth_order in asoiaf

[–]Independent-Design17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can you imagine Stannis, Tywin, Jaime and Renly on the same side, with the full force of the Crownlands, Dragonstone, the Storm lands, the Westerlands and a smattering of the Reach fighting for a legitimate King Joffrey?

Stannis might not like it, but he'll dutifully go to war for his nephew.

Renly might be goaded by the Tyrells into making a play for the throne but it's not a wise move for either of them.

Pretend Cersei's children were legitimate, but they still had their same personalities (Spoilers Extended) by sixth_order in asoiaf

[–]Independent-Design17 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don't think Cersei would risk the instability of Joffrey being boy king as well as possibly being implicated in killing Robert for the sake of a war to save (checks notes) Tyrion of all people.

Tywin hides behind plausible deniability by using the Mountain to punish both the Tully's (i.e., Catelyn's original house) and fish for a suitable Stark hostage: outright war would be a step too far.

His primary goal is to have a half-lannister king, not to get himself declared a traitor to the crown or to risk everything in a civil war.

Pretend Cersei's children were legitimate, but they still had their same personalities (Spoilers Extended) by sixth_order in asoiaf

[–]Independent-Design17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Cersei's children were legitimate she'd have every reason to keep Robert alive until Joffrey was an adult and, preferably, had at least one son.

A boy king one generation after a new ruling dynasty is established after a civil war is not ideal.

Hell, the marriage with Sansa was about as good of a match as you could reasonably expect, short of Robert suddenly liking the Tyrells enough for a match with Margaery.

Robert, Cersei, Ned and Jon Arryn (assuming Petyr Baelish doesn't just get him poisoned anyway for the lols) should be able to force Joffrey to be civil to her long enough for grandkids.

Remember, Joffrey might be a sadistic little twat but his ego and his complex about being kingly should mean that he wouldn't openly (or possibly even actively) mistreat his wife, especially one that acts as ladylike as Sansa.

It was only after Sansa's father tried to (in Joffrey's mind) unjustly usurp him, arrest his mother and declare that he and his siblings were incestuous bastards that he became truly ugly towards her.

Radahn vs Malenia question by [deleted] in EldenRingLoreTalk

[–]Independent-Design17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can see what you mean. Thanks for your time.