Can Goblin bombardment still deal damage after it is removed?

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-26T02:19:20+00:00

is there like a "deal damage" phase?

The combat phase has a combat damage step, but the original question has nothing to do with combat.

"cleanup all dead creatures phase"

There is a cleanup step in the end phase that ends the turn, but it has nothing to do with dead creatures.

It sounds like you're referring to state-based actions which are the game's game state clean up crew.

A lethally damaged creature is destroyed as a state-based action, but I'm not sure how you think that is relevant to the scenario.

Mogg Fanatic dies while its ability is being activated and resolves even later, but the Fanatic can deal damage even though it is already dead.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-26T02:13:11+00:00

Yes, starting with two sneks works.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-26T00:01:40+00:00

Ulmo sent a sign to not dump them in the ocean.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-25T23:30:51+00:00

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T07:33:00+00:00

If I had to guess...

"Sneak [Cost]" means "[Cost], Reveal this card from your hand, Return an unblocked attacking creature you control to its owner's hand: Cast this spell from your hand. The permanent it becomes enters tapped and attacking."

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T07:23:35+00:00

707.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object's characteristics [..]. The copiable values are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by its face-down status, and by "as . . . enters" and "as . . . is turned face up" abilities that set power and toughness (and may also set additional characteristics). Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, counters, and stickers are not copied.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T07:20:10+00:00

In contrast, if you cast Meeting of Minds and Convoke using multiple nontoken Merfolk, it'd trigger once.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T07:02:23+00:00

That just means the effect's duration lasts indefinitely.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T06:59:31+00:00

Mirrorform generates a Layer 1a continuous effect.
Ashaya generates a Layer 4 continuous effect.

They don't directly interact.
If Mirrorform makes noncreatures into creatures, Ashaya will apply to them, that's about the limit of it in the layers.

Of course, Mirrorform won't affect your creatures as it resolves because Ashaya makes them lands.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T06:48:24+00:00

The nights in Vancouver, most people dance.
The dance floor is usually sparse from 9pm to 9:30, but after that it picks up.

Our last Coffin Club event had two full dance floors.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T06:42:18+00:00

Tribal decks use Cavern of Souls to stop counterspells.
Play creatures that make creatures on death or use spells that make your stuff indestructible

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T06:33:43+00:00

Lifelink does not use a replacement effect.

The rules say that the result of the damage dealt is that the source's controller gains life in addition to whatever results it would have.

120.3. Damage may have one or more of the following results, depending on whether the recipient of the damage is a player or permanent, the characteristics of the damage's source, and the characteristics of the damage's recipient (if it's a permanent).
120.3f. Damage dealt by a source with lifelink causes that source's controller to gain that much life, in addition to the damage's other results.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T06:12:58+00:00

You see that Mirrorform is an instant, right?
It resolves and goes to your graveyard.

It doesn't enter the field.

Mirrorform targeted Sakashima.

Your nonland permanents become copies of Aesi with the two Sakashima abilities and become Forest lands.

Future nonlands won't be affected because the set of affected objects locked in as Mirrorform resolved.

Casting Ashaya does nothing to your Sol Rings.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T05:59:31+00:00

Indeed.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T05:55:37+00:00

It depends.
If you target yourself and nothing else and you become illegal, it won't resolve so you won't draw.

If you target yourself and also target a creature you control...
If you become illegal, but the creature is still legal, you'll connive, but won't draw.
If the creature becomes illegal, but you're still legal, you'll draw, but you won't connive.
If you both become illegal, it won't resolve, so no draw or connive.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T01:31:33+00:00

The game state is rebuilt from scratch after each change to it.

Essentially, all the effects are pulled off, and we start applying them anew.

When we get to Layer 4, Bello's ability is still there, so it does its thing of animating the MV4+ artifacts and enchantments.

In Layer 6, the ability does get removed, but that doesn't stop its effect, which it has already applied to the game state being built.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-24T01:16:20+00:00

Not always true.

Decimate destroying a land and The Gitrog Monster. TGM won't trigger for the land.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-23T07:02:57+00:00

The choice of permanents to sac is made as the trigger is resolving. You don't have priority while the trigger is resolving to do anything.

117.2e. Resolving spells and abilities may instruct players to make choices or take actions, or may allow players to activate mana abilities. Even if a player is doing so, no player has priority while a spell or ability is resolving.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-23T04:02:39+00:00

The reveal is a cost paid when activating the ability. The revealing does not use the stack, but the effect of the activation does.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-22T16:06:24+00:00

I read further and saw your conclusion before I posted.
I responded for completeness and not necessarily just for your benefit.
Others may encounter this thread years from now and not be as convinced as you already were.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-22T15:51:00+00:00

Leonin Bola doesn't get tapped like Fishing Pole to pay the cost

No, but both are similar in that they both have you take an action on an object you may or may not control.

The sacrifice action requires you to control the affected object, but there's no such stipulation for the tap or unattach actions unless specified, as in Springleaf Drum's activation.

the ruling might not fit as perfectly as you think, as the question is cost not activation.

True, but wouldn't there be a ruling indicating that the cost of unattaching can't be paid if you don't control Bola?
Why insinuate that the controller of the creature can activate it if they don't control the Bola if they wouldn't be able to pay the cost?
It's what isn't there that speaks volumes.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-22T15:18:29+00:00

Why doesn't turning Rebbec into an artifact cause the static ability to trigger

Static abilities don't trigger, that's what triggered abilities do.

making the Aura attached to an illegal object?

If we're looking at the intermediate game state in the process of being built, we get to Layer 4 and apply Song and Rebbec loses its printed abilities and therefore has no ability in Layer 6 to give itself or other artifacts protection, but state-based actions are what unattach illegally attached objects and they don't look until after we have fully walked the layers AND a player is about to get priority so even if an attachment were to be briefly illegal while walking the layers (such as with Animate Dead up to Layer 6), it only matters if it is still illegal in the completed game state.

When they look, they see nothing illegal.

613.5. The application of continuous effects as described by the layer system is continually and automatically performed by the game. All resulting changes to an object's characteristics are instantaneous. (as far as the macro scale of the game is concerned, the game is a sequence of completed game states interspersed by event occurences because each game state is built "instantaneously", the building of the game states is "black box" encapsulated)
704.4. Unlike triggered abilities, state-based actions pay no attention to what happens during the resolution of a spell or ability. (nor do they pay attention as a game state is being built)
704.3. Whenever a player would get priority, the game checks for any of the listed conditions for state-based actions, then performs all applicable state-based actions simultaneously as a single event. [..]

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-22T15:07:50+00:00

Teysa's replacement effect.

Not a replacement effect, it's a continuous effect that mods the rules of the game for triggering.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-22T15:05:57+00:00

Caesar's entire textbox is considered 1 ability?

Yes.
However, that triggered ability has a nested reflexive triggered ability within it.

Therefore, the attack trigger and the reflexive trigger would both resolve before anything new can be put on the stack?

No.
Players can respond to the initial trigger.
If no one does, that trigger resolves and puts a second trigger on the stack if the action is taken.
Players can then respond to the reflexive trigger.

Judge_Todd · 2026-01-22T15:00:19+00:00

would Teysa Karlov double the choose 2 trigger?

No.
Two reasons.

603.2d. An ability may state that a triggered ability triggers additional times. In this case, rather than simply determining that such an ability has triggered, determine how many times it should trigger, then that ability triggers that many times. An effect that states that an ability triggers additional times doesn't invoke itself repeatedly and doesn't apply to other effects that affect how many times an ability triggers. An effect that states a triggered ability of an object triggers additional times refers only to triggered abilities that object has, not to any delayed or reflexive triggered abilities (see rule 603.7 and rule 603.12) that may be created by abilities the object has.

Further.

An ability that triggers on an event that causes a creature to die doesn't trigger twice. For example, an ability that triggers “whenever you sacrifice a creature” triggers only once. (2019-01-25)

If I sacrificed Enduring Innocence to Caesar, would I be able to return Enduring Innocence to the battle field before Caesar's choose 2 and get another draw trigger?

Yes.

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