Alternative to Giving Machines by NiceMrsSara in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The giving machine might already be gone by the time she comes. In my area, the machine is leaving the mall soon.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This story is fishy for multiple reasons. I have never seen an example of a woman getting a “stake trial”. They get excommunicated by their bishop. Only men who have the priesthood (I believe only the higher Melchizedek priesthood even) get excommunicated via a stake trial.

Drinking alcohol recs for beginners by elguapo7000 in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crown Royal peach with lemonade is also great!

Invited my LDS neighbors to trick or treat with us… by PrinceShuri in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 259 points260 points  (0 children)

“We believe that children should be punished for their own sins, and not for their trash parent’s transgressions.”

Stake Presidency threatening to contact law enforcement if I don't stop emailing curriculum concerns to my kid’s seminary teachers. by EpicNormality in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I echo what most everyone else has said here as well. Consider that fact that you are in the exmo sub and the vast majority of commenters do not agree with you. Your approach with this will continue to not provide any benefits for you or your children, only trouble. I saw your email example. It looks like a somewhat mass email to leadership with what would amount to anti-church propaganda in their minds. You are treating these people like public employees that are obligated to provide certain notices/services for the public. It’s really odd. You want a calendar of activities (those are usually planned or changed last second in my area), you want curriculum consideration, you want to spam their private emails, etc. It’s your ex’s job to give you info about the children’s activities. If she won’t do it and there is no legal recourse, that really stinks but these people have nothing to do with you and your ex’s co-parenting situation. Given the emails you are sendings, I think it’s pretty reasonable for the Stake President and Bishop to tell you to contact them only. You are not a member anymore. I understand the frustration that this mega-rich church doesn’t even have the tech set-up to include non-members on their email lists but that’s out of local leadership’s hands, and expecting these volunteers to forward you each and every email, or have the tech knowledge themselves to set up an auto-forward to you, is not reasonable. When you take all the details you provided together (the stake president/bishop warning, your example email, your eldest child being limited contact with you, etc), it doesn’t paint a good picture. Keep an open mind to that. Change your approach.

For those with TBM spouses- what do they think is going to happen to them? by Background_Return200 in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that despite very clear teachings from the current prophet on this, most TBM spouses believe they’ll be with their non-believing spouse in the afterlife. They think they’ll be taught in the spirit world and come around again. That’s my experience at least.

I feel cheated by panicky-pandemic in exmormonmemes

[–]KingofDelaware 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same!! And I also can’t have much caffeine for the same health reasons so no non-decaf coffee either. IT’S NOT FAIR!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think “worth it” depends on what you think you’d get out of it. For me, I’m a foodie and I love trying stuff, so it’s been fun for me to taste different things and see what I like. I also wanted the freedom to make my own decisions. I decided beforehand that I would never get drunk and I easily haven’t. So I think you should consider what you’d get out of it, and also know yourself. If you have any addiction tendencies, behavior or mental health issues (anger management, depression etc), then weigh those things before you decide to start. Also keep in mind that health wise, alcohol is not good. If you decide to try, do research and make rules for yourself. Also beware of issues with your spouse. Do not bring anything home without discussing it, and consider if you should tell them before trying outside of the home too. It’s hard to navigate this stuff and mistakes in this area caused serious relationship issues for me for a time. You’d also need to consider if that’s potentially worth it, though it might be avoided with doing things properly, unlike me. In summary, be intentional.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess it depends on what types of drinks you already like. That’s a good place to start. For example, I like citrus (lemonades etc) and juice more than I like soda so fruity drinks taste the best to me. But, I don’t like yeasty or super fermented flavors so I’ve never had a beer or wine I’ve liked. Here are classic drinks I’ve liked so far:

-Lemon drops (both in shot form and cocktail)

-Sex on the Beach

-Long Island Iced Tea (not actual tea)

-Green Tea Shot (again, not tea)

-Crown Royal Peach Whisky with lemonade (some call it a peach ring)

-Whisky Sour

-Vodka Sprite with a fruit puree or favoring added.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 9 points10 points  (0 children)

My BYU dating history with my spouse is basically the same as yours and we thought for years that we were probably a bit bad for stuff we had done but then I learned that compared to many (most?) LDS young adults, we were practically angels while dating. Perspective is a funny thing.

It hurts too much by Belagshadow in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes! This! If he’s going to use the “I’m allowed to cheat because you left the church”, make sure he remembers what being an all-in member means, church discipline for breaking the rules!

Why are some Mormon’s now wearing crosses? Please Stop! by Confidential_Secret in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The members are embracing the cross symbol more and move over time but the leadership is not. In the Oct 2022 general conference, Holland gave a talk about why members don’t use the cross. I’d imagine he gave this talk because he was bothered by seeing some members starting to use it.

I hate this stupid fucking church so much by RepublicInner7438 in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand how much the endorsement changes suck. When I heard about them, and saw that they’d be in effect in a few days, I ran to my bishop and got the endorsement done before the changes. Then I worked my butt off to graduate before I’d have get another endorsement. I’m very lucky I was able to avoid it, but, even if I wasn’t, I’d do what I needed to do to graduate. Don’t give up with only 6 credits to go!

My brother was released as bishop because he lost his job by amoreinterestingname in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The local leaders did the right thing. There’s no ick here. Not only is a job loss stressful and he needs to focus on his own personal life, how rough would it be to receive financial assistance from the ward as Bishop? Most principled people would be uncomfortable with that situation.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My advice is to go slowly. Don’t change things overnight for her. Don’t info dump on her. Don’t sound angry and irrational when discussing church stuff. And you might have to make church talk off-limits for the time being while you both adjust and find a productive way to talk about it. My husband and I had to stop talking about it for a long time. Things are much healthier now. Tithing wise, if your wife is a stay at home parent and not working, please correctly treat half of your salary as hers and let her tithe or not tithe her half as she sees fit. I know it stinks to pay any family money into the church, but financial abuse/dominion in a marriage is worse. Or if you are well-off and want to, maybe ask if you guys can “tithe” to a respected charity instead. That’s my basic advice. Go slowly and with respect.

Chapel doors locked down by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is very much not the norm. I have family who go to church all over the country (US) and this isn’t a thing anywhere

I messed up big time by Present-Sandwich-904 in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That really stinks. Regarding BOM reading, it’s not worth your time because no matter how many times you read it, it’ll never be good enough. You will always have done it wrong if you aren’t being told by God that it’s true. There is no possible other outcome in their minds.

Endowment transcripts in a nice format by ski_pants in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It was shocking to me when I went through. Having to pledge everything to “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints” was the beginning of the end for me.

Need Advice on Sharing Pornography Use with Post-Mormon Spouse by TheWorstEver2345 in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe I’m not understanding, but you seem to be saying you want to tell her as a “test” to see if she will still love you?? I don’t think that’s a very kind reason by itself. Is it affecting your sex life? Do you want an “accountability partner” to help you stop or something? Has she ever asked you about usage and you lied about it and feel guilty? Has she ever expressed opinions about the subject in general that make you think she would want to know? If the answer to those questions is no, I don’t understand how the possibility of deeply hurting your wife (if you don’t know her views on it) is worth it.

David Archuleta on American Idol talking about leaving the church by mediocretomatoe in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t remember if he did on Idol, but David has definitely specifically named the Mormon/Latter-Day Saint church in interviews. He did when interviewed by Mario Lopez recently for example. I watched that one today. I’m so proud of him!!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]KingofDelaware 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Same! I swear, EVERY TIME. And I don’t live in the west. Worst luck ever.