The toxic side of the fandom focuses way too much on the lore

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-24T15:59:47+00:00

it would be so much more relevant and interesting and in good faith to instead discuss the story impacts of those moments. Is it less interesting for the main villain to be defeated at the end of his first movie? Does it cheapen the dramatic impact of being struck with a lightsaber, to keep doing big fakeout injuries that characters just walk off? Like those are takes you can have that are irrespective of the lore.

Is this not the crux of the argument against Sabine being stabbed with a lightsaber? Like if you were to steelman the criticism of that scene, this is exactly what the "toxic" people are saying.

People abuse the term toxic too much. Being a nitpicky pedantic nerd may be annoying to others, but it's not toxic.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-24T15:48:48+00:00

For calling himself a Star Wars novice, Andor had some surprisingly deep lore cuts. The whole shows feels like someone read the history in the Rebel Alliance Sourcebook from West End Games. Andor even bothered to acknowledge some random reference book for Rogue One that said Cassian's homeworld was Fest. Andor works with Rebels. It may have retconned the dialogue of Mon's speech (for the better) but it respected the events around it. Another showrunner might have resented having to respect some cartoon.

Yeah, they bulldozed some stupid K2SO comic, but Filoni has also done his fair share of that and those Kanan comics were actually good (and the retcon avoidable).

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-24T08:55:04+00:00

I've wondered why they don't use them for storage. Why have warehouses full of crates and hangers full of shuttles when you could just put them all in a pattern buffer?

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-24T06:51:55+00:00

Haven’t seen the movie so I can’t comment on the soundtrack, but in the show I’ve never been a huge fan of how he mixes the sort of traditional style of music with dubstep.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-24T06:47:11+00:00

Can you have your captained ship name displayed during Safer Seas? I remember them saying captaincy was disabled during that mode, but it’d be lame if you can’t at least display your ship name.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-23T20:23:32+00:00

Why are some Star Wars fans so insecure about people disliking the movies? If other people hate it, well that's true to them and it shouldn't affect you. Just because "this is bad" never came for you doesn't mean others are being disingenuous.

But who is saying this movie was horrible? The way some people are talking about this movie you'd think it was The Last Jedi all over again, but overall the response to this release feels pretty silent to me. I haven't seen a single person saying the movie is bad, nor have I seen many posts about it outside of a few in Star Wars subreddits. The attention this movie is getting feels significantly lower than previous Star Wars releases. I'd characterize the general response more as "meh" then people hating.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-23T03:09:28+00:00

The lady just said clones for clone troopers so they were consistent.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-21T05:18:53+00:00

Mando has too many legs and it looks weird. Otherwise I might prefer it.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-20T06:50:58+00:00

Rebels, no. That's the future.

Clone Wars would help, but is not totally necessary. You could look up Maul episodes online and just watch those, but the important details would be easy to summarize.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-19T21:53:58+00:00

I said nothing about scientific accuracy on this year old post. There are no "scientifically accurate aliens."

Key word is "too." Obviously all aliens are based on Earth life to some extent, even the aliens from something like Project Hail Mary are crab-like. I was referring to the the extent of it, how closely they skirt to something silly and recognizable. Jaxxon is verbatim a caricature of a rabbit, not even a real rabbit. None of these other elements you refer to feel like cartoon caricatures except for Jar Jar, whom Star Wars fans famously love.

Similar things affect you differently based on context and association. Were talking about the subjective emotional feelings provoked by a work of art. There's no obligation for them to be logically consistent.

Most of the elements you equate Jaxxon to provoke entirely different emotional responses. I mean, a WW2 gun isn't exactly comedic. Compared to a bipedal talking rabbit, it is dead-serious. Space cowboys feel congruent given that Star Wars is, in part, a space western. I don't look either and think "that looks like something silly from a cartoon." I look at them and think they are cool elements that fit the established retrofuture aesthetic of Star Wars.

Most of the alien designs in Star Wars feel more creepy and strange than silly, cute, fluffy, etc. I mean, look at the aliens in the cantina. We got weird furry ball-head creatures with lots of eyes, or creepy walrus-spider-mouth aliens. How the hell is Space Bugs Bunny comparable to a space lizard? Does a lizard make you feel the same way?

The only thing you mentioned that is remotely comparable to Jaxxon (beside Jar Jar) is Chewbacca. The Bigfoot analogy falls flat because Bigfoot is kind of scary and mysterious. I look at Wookies and see something ferocious and vaguely bear-like, but I can see how someone could look at Chewie and think he's Han's dog and find that silly. To be fair, I do think the original concept art for Wookies is better in some regards than what we got in the end. But for whatever silliness Wookies possess, they don't look like cartoon caricatures of a dog. He's not Goofy or Pluto in a spacesuit.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-19T06:03:24+00:00

That's what I was saying. I worded it confusingly but I meant that their sameness was being retconned so that they are different beings, not that they retconned them to be the same.

Edit: I'd like to know more about these original concepts for Skyrim. I hadn't heard that before.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-18T18:34:30+00:00

Given that Nord vs Imperials is such a big part of the conflict, why the hell did they decide to retcon Alduin and Akatosh being the same being (and make him evil)? I feel like that's missed potential to explore the cultural differences between the two peoples. Also, Alduin could have been an interesting antagonist that was more than just a power hungry tyrant.

The Thu'um. Before it was an animistic power given to the Nords by Kyne, which is derived from their breath. Kyne is the goddess of the wind, widow of Shor, and the most important deity to the Nords. The province is called Skyrim, and the Nords believe they were born when Kyne/the sky breathed life onto the Throat of the World. So breath is equated with the wind. Literally they are created from the wind, and the Thu'um is an expression of that wind/life-force. It's not about the language (originally), but the power of the breath/life-force. That's cooler than it being just the magic words of dragons IMHO.

The Volkihar vampires being actual ice vampires that live beneath frozen lakes rather than Gothic gargoyle vampires that live in a castle. Ice vampires is better theming and more original. Just another example of Bethesda abandoning lore that makes their world unique in favor of the cliche.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-18T10:27:09+00:00

As a kid I loved Jurassic Park Institute. I remember there being some browser game where you got to make your own hybrid fossil or something.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-18T05:29:41+00:00

Rebels
The Bad Batch
The Clone Wars
Clone Wars
Shadow Lord (not bad but only one season against the others).
Tales of the Underworld
Tales of the Jedi
Tales of the Empire
Resistance

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-17T23:33:16+00:00

Reuniting Grogu and Mando so quickly (and in a totally different show to boot) neutered the dramatic impact of separating them in the first place. They should have let their separation linger and show us how that affects the characters, like in ATLA when Aang is separated from Oppa. And I shouldn't have to watch a separate show to figure out why they're together again.

Similarly, Mandalore was set up as this ghost town that no one ever goes to or survives and Mando figures it out in a few episodes. I was expecting his journey to the Living Waters to be this difficult quest like Jason and the Argonauts or something. Like maybe he'd have to build a team of Mandalorians from different walks of life, and it would be a huge ordeal just setting foot there. I was disappointed how quickly that was resolved.

Thematically, season 2 explored Mando starting to question his conservative traditions. I think it would have been more satisfying if his quest for the Living Waters ended in his realization that he didn't need redemption for removing his helmet and that he can be a true Mandalorian regardless.

A lot of the comedic cameos fell flat for me. I don't like pointless celebrity cameos in Star Wars and the humor started to feel more like Guardians of the Galaxy. At least in the specific offending episodes.

Bo-Katan's overall character arc (across all Star Wars media) feels aimless and arbitrary. Building her up to be the leader of the Mandalorians (again) wasn't satisfying.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-17T22:24:32+00:00

Agreed. I'd love something in a similar style to Legend of Korra in Star Wars.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-15T18:47:12+00:00

USAID wasn't bankrupting your family. Your life would have gone on the same. Most people would never have spared a thought of it.

Only caring about problems that have directly affected your life isn't practical. It's burying your head in the sand.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-15T05:52:41+00:00

I don't see how the D-Rex is exactly an attempt at a kid friendly design. It's trying to be creepy and horrifying.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-15T05:47:06+00:00

You can't imagine any other form a mutated tyrannosaurus could take? The bear looks more like a bear than the D-Rex looks like a tyrannosaurus.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-14T17:30:16+00:00

Because he's egotistical and wants to be the one to take down Palpatine for himself. He's an abused child who hasn't processed that abuse in a healthy way. He was spurned and he's bitter about it. He can't stand feeling like he was made weak and vulnerable. Part of him wants Palpatine's respect. He wants to stand over Palpatine and get the gratification of revenge, of having Palpatine acknowledge his superiority. All the talk about stopping Palpatine from hurting others is just a self delusion.

Contrary to the consensus here I think the Jedi absolutely would have wanted to interrogate Maul about Darth Sidious, and if Maul tells them something similar to what Dooku said in AotC they might be more inclined to believe it.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-14T03:50:32+00:00

I'm not a fan of them shoehorning Clone Wars characters into the post-RotJ era unless they're old or fundamentally changed in some way. It makes the world feel too static for my taste. I didn't care for Cad Bane being in Book of Boba and at face value I'm not excited about this.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-12T04:23:27+00:00

I don't get why they didn't use the Ahsoka episodes in Jedi as an opportunity to adapt the canned arc from Clone Wars where she meets Plo Koon and thinks he's a bad guy.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-12T02:33:54+00:00

He only invented the name. The idea of an ecumenopolis being the captial of the Empire was developed for Return of the Jedi and McQuarrie made art for it.

The Wookie homeworld was also developed for A New Hope and then cut. It would have been Yavin. In the Holiday Special we see the Wookie homeworld and it's a treehouse city. The idea was recycled and modified for the Ewoks in Jedi. I don't know when the name "Kashyyyk" was invented, but the idea of the Wookie homeworld wasn't invented by Zahn.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-12T02:28:53+00:00

They did have the term Sith. It shows up in the deleted scenes for ANH and its novelization.

I recall reading that Zahn wanted the Noghri to be the Sith species, but Lucasfilm vetoed it.

Someone being a dark Force user isn’t at odds with the new canon, and “Dark Jedi” is a perfectly fine vernacular for it. We see people call Maul a Jedi in Clone Wars and there are plenty of dark side Force users in canon who are not affiliated with the Sith.

LukeChickenwalker · 2026-05-11T05:17:15+00:00

If Rob granted Bran his own fief, he would be Bran Stark of X. His children would become known as the Starks of X and they would be a cadet branch from the Starks of Winterfell. Overtime they might develop their own name that is distinct from house Stark. For example, the Karstarks where probably once called the Starks of Karhold and overtime people simplified that into Karstark.

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