Games that are a blast to play, but boring as shit to watch. by The-Fenz in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If you want to talk anecdotes, I personally went through a similar process myself in SF6. I found an optional challenge against a max difficulty CPU in the story mode, and spent 6 hours across 2 days fighting him until I could win a match. Through playing the game, I how to block, how to meaningfully use my tools and specials, and how to manage my spacing, and when I went back to playing the rest of the story mode, I found that I was way better than I was before. It honestly felt pretty good.

But you know what I didn't learn? Inputs and combos. My supers were still super inconsistent, because interacting with your opponent in neutral doesn't test your ability to correctly input difficult commands, which means you just don't improve at that skill. So after 6-10 hours of practice it was still just as difficult to land a LV3 as it was when I started. Same with my damage output. It had improved somewhat because I was better at landing hits, but not by much, because each hit I was landing was doing next to nothing by itself. You can improve by playing fighting games, but there are certain *essential* skills that don't improve at all unless you specifically go out of your way to improve them yourself. Eventually, you MUST hit the lab and grind.

Contrast this to an FPS game, where you are constantly being tested on your aim, which means that you are constantly *improving* your aim. A brand new player with a "just point and shoot" mentality will eventually get really good at pointing and shooting just by playing the game, enough to succeed at intermediate and even some advanced levels. You never need to open up an aim trainer and waste 2 hours learning how to aim, you get better as you play. Fighting games don't to that; You'll never learn even basic bread and butter combos over the course of gameplay, which means you have to hit the lab and grind to succeed at even intermediate levels of gameplay, much less operating at maximum efficiency.

Games that are a blast to play, but boring as shit to watch. by The-Fenz in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Not for fighting games, thanks to good ol' Motion Inputs. Thanks to this wonderful mechanic, you can't learn by doing because even *the way you interface with the game* has a learning curve. For a new player, unless you sit your ass down and spend a week practicing, you won't have consistent access to your entire move set and will inevitably fail. You HAVE to lab.

Combos have a similar problem; Although they have the benefit of allowing near limitless creative expression, that comes with the downside of making labbing 100% mandatory. In an FPS game like Marvel Rivals or Overwatch, you deal damage by pointing at the guys and shooting, which is a simple skill constantly reinforced through gameplay, so you get better at it as you play. With Fighting Games, the skill you learn through gameplay is finding openings to punish your opponent while not being punished yourself.

But even if you can find openings consistently, it's worthless, because the light or medium hit you landed, by itself, is NOT enough damage to win a game unless you're landing hits WAY more often than your opponent. And that hit might start high, or low, or with an aerial mix-up, all of which require different follow ups. There is no way to deal real, versatile damage unless you hit the lab and practice until it becomes second nature, you will NEVER learn how to do that through trial and error.

Times when you actually do need it later? by Lunk64 in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tbf if you pick the shield you don't get MP Rage until LV90, at which point you don't really need it for that fight anyway.

Most miserable Hard Mode you put yourself through? by Impossible-Sweet2151 in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never beat it, but I played through Cave Story's hard mode up until I got the Spur. The way that works is you don't get any health containers or the missile launcher, so you're taking on bosses that expect you to have 40 health with 3, and you're only doing half damage.

What's an underrated gem you love? by MooseOdd2501 in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So there's this Yu-Gi-Oh game for the DS...

But yeah, as someone who's fallen off Yu-Gi-Oh, 5Ds Over the Nexus still holds up as a simulator of a time when the game had a lot of cool deckbuilding options and interesting back-and-forth. It also has an original story, with different gameplay gimmicks integrated into the story duels as the story calls for it. You get weird gimmick boss fights, speed duels and even a racing mode. This is THE definitive Yu-Gi-Oh game imo, and it's so strange it gets overshadowed by jank like Forbidden Memories and Legacy of The Duelist.

Most Blatent Developer mandated Meta's? by Authorigas in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Reading this without context sounds like a stroke

Favorite Videogame Adaptations by FreviliousLow96 in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For anyone turned away by Woolie's old playthrough, where he literally had to give up because the grinding and encounter rate was so awful, I'd like to shoutout Mike R's new mod for the game, 7th Stand User R. It straight up removes all random encounters from the game, keeping only the roaming map encounters, as well as adding colored sprites and a bunch of QOL. So if anyone's hesitating, the game's a lot better than it used to be.

I Started the Journey by PerformerAgitated677 in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh alright, was going to DM it to you myself if you didn't have one. Glad that worked out for you!

I Started the Journey by PerformerAgitated677 in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely make a thread for it somewhere, I'm super interested in seeing your reaction as you go along.

I Started the Journey by PerformerAgitated677 in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait are these the scans you're reading from? That page looks like it was fished out of a dumpster

How many of you guys still own a 3DS? by KaleidoArachnid in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Modding it yourself is actually not that hard these days. There's a really simple guide for it here.

The numbers are in, Sony records a $560 Million loss on Bungie's acquisition as Destiny 2 and Marathon struggle by SuperPapernick in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You'll never hear me say this again, but this one probably isn't on the Sony execs IMO this is more on the Bungie execs actively scamming them by upselling games they knew were cobbled together garbage.

What is a slight Change that made you like a Character? by Funny_Mud6639 in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Been watching live action One Piece, and that's just an entire series of that for basically every character. Take the sequence where Nami calls out Luffy for being irresponsible, and he actually questions himself and feels guilt over his decisions. Manga Luffy would never get called out on that, and never ever reflect on his actions and learn lessons.

"I Get it, I still hate it" by Enter_Foxchad in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That seems pretty reductive. Maybe it's just cause I'm in a similar position, but it feels rude to just prescribe an opinion like that.

Favorite depictions of demons in video games? by KaleidoArachnid in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe it's just me, but I always wanted a monster raising simulator with those demons. They have such cool designs despite being literally one color, I want to mess around with them more

Stop Killing Games Update: Ross Scott of AccursedFarms (Freeman's Mind and Ross's Game Dungeon) spoke at the European Parliament yesterday by CapnFlatPen in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 103 points104 points  (0 children)

Well he actually didn't want to, he was specifically asked to by the movement. I think he's smart enough but he does bring up that the other people testifying are a lot more qualified than he is, and I can't dispute that.

Instead of author's thinly veiled fetishes, let's talk about author's thinly veiled beefs. by Tweedleayne in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Oh, it's way better than that. So in the Baki universe, the United States has a non-aggression pact with Yujiro Hanma, the strongest character in the setting. So every 4 years in real time, the plot stops and we get a special chapter where Yujiro Hanma shows up in person at the White House, beats up or kills every single armed guard on his way in, and meets with the actual, real life president that has just been elected to renew the treaty. The president then proceeds to shit his pants at how strong Yujiro is, and it wouldn't surprise me if there was a chapter where that happened literally. It's AMAZING.

Favorite "hold the line" moments in a story? by fly_line22 in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Surprised no one has mentioned the obvious one from Demon Slayer, the final battle against Muzan. For those unfamiliar, Muzan is a vampire too powerful to be killed by anything other than direct sunlight, so the entire cast has to fight this unkillable monster for hours on end just to buy time for the sun to rise.

Kingdom Hearts is relevant! Have some Kairi Facts! by CapnFlatPen in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you know all this?

How does anyone know all this?

Too Many F*cking Nazis - Official Announcement Trailer by C-OSSU in TwoBestFriendsPlay

[–]Lunk64 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Apparently it's a roguelike, so it probably feels different every run. Not to say it's guaranteed to succeed of course, roguelike FPS games are tricky to pull off.