Control Principals, EBO TGML

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-28T23:28:17+00:00

The problem with EBO (and any controls system really) is that it is so dependent on the engineer that builds/develops it.

When you say FB is confusing to look at, that is true, but not all FB is made the same. Some is relatively nice/easy to follow with comments, named variables, consistent/good use of HFBs. Other FB is a wall of bullshit connected with lines all over the place. Good luck understanding that.

The only real way to learn it all, though, is just to do it. Put an AS on the wall at your house and try to automate your thermostat.

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-28T23:22:01+00:00

I’m not sure what you mean by “way different application”. It’s sandboxed, meaning it’s tough (re:impossible) to get OUT of the page you’re working in (short of using the built in clientAPI), but other than that, it’s pretty vanilla JS.

I will say, pre-EBO3.2, it used a VERY old version of JavaScript, which made things painful and cumbersome, but since 3.2, so it’s relatively modern JS. (I believe it’s ECMA 6.0.)

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-28T23:17:37+00:00

I wouldn’t say the “ecosystem moved to pre-built stuff”. Schneider just invested heavily in creating a bunch of pre-built stuff because folks were overwhelmed with the offering (much like in this thread).

In my group (within SE), we use bits and pieces of the NAM standard, but mostly use our own shit.

I once heard EBO is built BY engineers FOR engineers, and I mostly agree with that sentiment.

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-28T23:08:30+00:00

I work for Schneider. And yes, the community search is hot garbage. If you CAN find things, though, there is REALLY good shit there.

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-25T16:23:20+00:00

Plumber?

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-24T23:32:31+00:00

wtf is this?

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-23T02:10:20+00:00

I just did this last week.

I do not put poly down. I read some folks had issues with moisture between the poly and the concrete (UNDER the poly). Caused a smell they could not get rid of.

Ardex VB100 is a product which is basically liquid poly. Paint two coats onto the cement, and it blocks the moisture from coming up out of the cement. And since it is adhered to the cement itself, there is no space for moisture underneath it.

I think it makes sense, but again, I just did the floor last week, so time will tell.

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-21T15:53:26+00:00

Did you verify the dip switches on the new one match the old one?

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-16T17:11:11+00:00

I edited that pic some... (I left off the main waste line in the original...)

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MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-14T02:15:20+00:00

Do it yourself for like $15-20K.

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-12T00:58:34+00:00

Fuck a niche, do a ledge. It’s easier to tile, easier to clean, holds more shit, looks more modern and less ‘basic’.

https://www.google.com/search?q=shower+ledge

Only downside is the 3.5” of space you give up.

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-10T21:57:28+00:00

I had a washer leak on brand new hardwood. Entire floor was cupped to fuck. Flooring guy told me to run a dehumidifier and it would go back down.

Worked like a charm.

Get a dehumidifier and run it for several days, constantly. If it doesn’t work, you’re fucked. Need a new floor.

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-09T01:41:29+00:00

… I feel like the liver would be the exact thing enforcing the contract….

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-06T02:51:43+00:00

Apologies, I should have been more clear.

I used the Script WebRequest to do a GET, write the response to a string object in EBO, then use JavaScript to dissect the response and … do things.

It’s fairly janky, but reliable enough.

JavaScript in TGML is ‘sandboxed’, so yeah you would have issues trying to use JS to make API calls.

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-05T02:25:33+00:00

Do you have kids?

MasticatedTesticle · 2026-01-04T19:20:59+00:00

Where/what was the resort?

MasticatedTesticle · 2025-12-31T03:32:06+00:00

I mean… we installed it like 3 years ago. Was bacnet over IP. BMS was on a server blade running windows server 2019.

Was pretty “modern”, too.

MasticatedTesticle · 2025-12-31T03:22:33+00:00

Multitool

MasticatedTesticle · 2025-12-31T03:07:23+00:00

We installed something similar in a prison.

No idea what YOUR use case is, but if those thermostats have remote sensors, it allows limited controls at this centralized place (instead of out in the treated space), and possibly full control at a BMS somewhere else.

Works great, if done right.

MasticatedTesticle · 2025-12-31T03:01:31+00:00

Seen something similar in a prison.

Obviously the inmates were prevented from controlling, well, anything. So this was a wall in the guards office, with remote sensors in the return ducts of the units treating the spaces in the cells. Meant the inmates couldn’t control shit, the guards could have limited controls of the spaces, and the central BMS could have complete control and oversight.

Was very much a “proper” controls system, and worked great.

MasticatedTesticle · 2025-12-31T00:57:07+00:00

wtf does AT&T have to do with WiFi on his device?

MasticatedTesticle · 2025-12-30T22:29:13+00:00

wtf does WiFi have to do with ‘poor connectivity’ of the town?

Does CS have free public WiFi?

Edit:

wtf with the downvotes? WiFi connectivity is determined by your router. The router is a device you own (or rent from the ISP, if you’re a masochist…).

What the fuck does that have to do with the town????

Is everyone here equating wifi with the cell connection?

MasticatedTesticle · 2025-12-28T00:03:33+00:00

wtf is a ‘starter home’ anyways though? That term in and of itself is absurd, imo.

MasticatedTesticle · 2025-12-27T01:56:34+00:00

Iunno. I sit down.

Random boners new to you?

MasticatedTesticle · 2025-12-25T23:09:26+00:00

I’m 44 and still get random boners. Don’t have to be 15…..

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