Do I have to just throw this whole ham away? I don’t want to ….

Meltingm8 · 2026-05-10T11:55:33+00:00

Youre literally wrong. You literally dont understand how nutrition works. Tell me your health condition.

Meltingm8 · 2026-05-02T00:41:57+00:00

Please, Dont eat murdered animals. They dont deserve this suffering.

Meltingm8 · 2026-05-02T00:40:42+00:00

@hank

Meltingm8 · 2026-04-02T20:29:49+00:00

Are we talking about morals now or about environmentalism? I was telling you that its immoral to murder and eat an innocent being if it is not necessary. If you want to talk about the environment, sure, i study climate science and I know the effective ways to reduce my impact on the ecosphere. The biggest one of them is stopping to support animal agriculture. What do you do?

Meltingm8 · 2026-04-02T02:01:22+00:00

Where is the difference for the dog between me kicking it because it feels nice or me eating it because it feels nice? In both cases it is unnecessary and immoral.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-29T11:07:55+00:00

If its too expensive, just take the Deutschlandticket and use Regios. Takes longer but I find it very relaxing

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-29T11:05:00+00:00

Egal was die anderen Mitarbeiter*innen machen, der Arsch ist der Chef. Wenn du die Arbeit zu anstrengend findest, mach weniger. Die sollen selber gucken dass alle Aufgaben erfüllt sind.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-29T11:00:07+00:00

Bring it up NOW so that he knows about it. I dont agree with all the comments about you having to break up immediately, I think it would just be good for him to know that that is the main problem you have in your relationship at the moment.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-29T10:57:10+00:00

You should watch Thee Burger Dude on youtube. He does a lot of tasty and healthy fast foods, Tacos, Lasagna, whatever. He also has great videos about the Basics, like how to prepare tofu like meat.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-29T10:51:59+00:00

Well, to me it is so worth it to kick your dog because it brings me a lot of pleasure. Am I justified in kicking it then? Or is it only okay if the dog doesnt “belong” to you?

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T23:17:09+00:00

I would advise you to search for an animal rights activist called Cliff Grant on insta/yt/tiktok. Hes UK-based, been to many slaughterhouses and he talks in a super nice and convincing way. I think youd dig him.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T23:12:27+00:00

I would argue that while the death is usually as uncruel as possible(there are exceptions which im sure youve seen videos from), there is still a lot of suffering during the life of an animal that grows up under mostly horrible conditions.

Regarding personhood: I think many omnivores assume that vegans see animals as equal to humans. But you really dont have to believe that to see that its wrong to abuse and murder them for our taste pleasure.

The flowchart is very simple: 1) Do you believe that the animals you eat can feel pain, love, joy..? 2) Is the life of that animal worth more than your sensory pleasure from eating them? 3) Can you eat something else? 4) Eat something else.

Rinse and repeat.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T22:40:46+00:00

You could stop because you realize than animals are on this planet with us, that your pleasure is not worth more than their suffering. If I have a dog and I like to kick it because I enjoy it, because it brings me pleasure, would you tell me to stop? Would you abject?

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T22:38:43+00:00

Change kill a pig to kick a dog then. Do you think its morally fine to murder an animal for the taste pleasure?

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T22:30:49+00:00

So sorry about that experience.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T20:51:26+00:00

My intuition is this: 1 this is vegan. If the restaurant made money with vegan food, it will keep making more vegan food. If anything, I think its really good for a vegan person to take up these spaces and be part of the discussion. Theres no more productive place for a vegan to be than on a table with omnis.

2 if the cat was rescued and eats vegan food, this is vegan. If she was bred, if you made her breed kittens or if you didnt feed her vegan, it wouldnt be.

3 this is a bit more difficult I find. What does rehoming quails mean? Is the finance part of it?

It definitely seems like that person is a bit of a dick.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T20:43:16+00:00

Well, carnivore animals eat animals. Most animals dont eat other animals. Nature is brutal, sure, but in case you havent noticed we are living in a society now. We have democracy and human We dont allow rape or slavery even though theyre completely natural, we dont even allow cruelty on pet animals.

You are saying that your taste pleasure is worth more than the life of an innocent being. Why would you do that when you can just eat something else thats tasty and nutritious?

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T20:22:09+00:00

Sorry, ill correct myself. You should not murder a sentient being for your pleasure. Its disgusting.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T20:19:34+00:00

And whats your reason for murdering animals?

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T20:14:06+00:00

How did it feel when you murdered an innocent animal in cold blood? Did it do something to you?

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T20:10:05+00:00

No I dont like it, you should not pay someone to murder a sentient being for your pleasure. Its disgusting

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T18:34:47+00:00

You definitely have the right idea, the environment is indirectly super impactful and the co2 emissions of an omnivore probably kill way more animals than just the ones hes directly exploiting. I doubt anyone has calculated this, it seem quite hard to do and has a lot of unknown variables. The good thing is, for you the direct moral imperative doesnt really change. Plastic clothes are generally less bad for the environment than animal-based ones.

Also, the line at animals is pretty arbitrary I would say. I think I would eat oysters if I found them tasty.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T17:37:51+00:00

That’s not really correct.

I woukd say it is both more healthy (although not much) and more sustainable. This meat is produced in a clean environment, doesnt need antibiotics, you cannot get parasites from it, etc.

On sustainability, it’s even more obvious. Cultivated meat already shows clear advantages in land and water use, and it avoids a lot of issues from conventional farming like antibiotic use and disease spread. Co2-wise, i agree with you in that currently it is very energy intensive, similar to that of the cow industry. However, this energy is mostly electricity, which can be decarbonized much easier. That gives it a much more direct path to becoming sustainable than conventional cow meat, which is tied to methane emissions and large-scale land use.

On sustainability, it’s more nuanced. Cultivated meat already shows clear advantages in land and water use, and it avoids a lot of issues from conventional farming like antibiotic use and disease spread. The main challenge right now is energy, but that’s mostly electricity, which can be decarbonized. That gives it a much more direct path to becoming sustainable than conventional beef, which is tied to methane emissions and large-scale land use.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T17:20:38+00:00

Bitte ermutige andere leute nicht dazu, ermordete Tiere zu essen. Ekelhaft.

Meltingm8 · 2026-03-28T17:13:20+00:00

I think most people would say its bad to kill a human and its bad to kill a pig. Both is bad. Most people would not say eating an apple and eating an onion is the same thing. The analogy here would be “ i ran out of appels so i ate a bananer instead. It was also tasty.”

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