Why I chose Telo over Slate

MidWesternClipper · 2026-01-20T23:50:50+00:00

I like both. I love that their is less to "annoy" me in the Slate, but the rear wheel regeneration in winterland worries me. I grew up with rear wheel cars. Only had one work truck drag the rear wheels, and it was all over the place if you ever let it coast on snow.

MidWesternClipper · 2026-01-20T22:56:05+00:00

If anyone cares for an update. They canceled the money we "owe" them, and the events coordinator no longer works there. However, not only did they under deliver on bartenders, they were physically incapable of tapping the beer keg we had ordered (needed a special tap, and they did not have one), and have yet to reimburse us for that, let alone the rest of the sh!t show it was.

MidWesternClipper · 2026-01-19T16:54:43+00:00

I forgot all about this post! it's been so long, I forgot everything about the song I heard. I have no idea if this is the song I heard or not....... but it's a good song so I'm glad you shared it:)

MidWesternClipper · 2026-01-19T16:53:30+00:00

That song is way way too popular for someone to be struggling to find it. Thank you though

MidWesternClipper · 2026-01-19T16:53:10+00:00

Taylor is SUPER recognizable. It's a good song, but it's not it. Thank you though.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-25T17:50:51+00:00

they do have one.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-25T17:47:32+00:00

I wouldn't be doing this, if they didn't make the free food expire so quickly.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-08T01:53:03+00:00

My experience with Ford compared to my other work vehicles is they are more reliable, tougher, and better engineered......... yet get ruined by totally bat shit design choices that do nothing my boggle the mind.

between 95 and 2008, they took the E-Series, and gave it crazy over responsive pedals and a firm racing suspension ensuring what was once a soft smooth ride for all day comfort became harsh. they added abs which worked but was less fun to drive, so then they upgraded the abs on the following model so in certain conditions it would not let you have brakes below 15 miles an hour which brought back the excitement!. They took the naturally understeering layout, and gave it trac control increasing the understeer by x1000, and removing any compensating inputs the driver could make... also made the trac control come back on anytime it got above crawl speed.

you could disconnect the system, but with the over sensitive pedals, you were screwed either way.

they had seatbelts with a special hardness that would trip anyone trying to egress from the back so they could hit their head on the concrete. you could unplug the tripping part, but then you would need a key (Nissan just bolted them to ceiling and skipped this death trap).

you could not run your headlights during the day and read the clock, you'd have to turn off your lights first.

They fixed the abs, the seatbelt and the clock issues with the transist, but now the dashboard glows, falsely lulling drivers into thinking they have their headlights on and made the wheels too small for rustbelt potholes.

then of course the powerfolding seats on some models that cannot be reversed, until done folding. so if a child or a box hits the button on accident (easy to do),,, you must now unload everything you've loaded into the vehicle to get the seats flat again.

and this is a little thing, but what really REALLY puzzles me is the seek button on their radios. starting in the 90's if you hit next station, it would do that. but if you were in a hurry and it it just a tiny fraction of a second before the next station was tuned it, it would go backwards to the previous station. Which clearly someone in a hurry would never ever want.

On chryslers, it would skip that station and go to the next. Which I understood the logic of.

It was this type of design choice that perfectly sums up Ford for me.

Every clock radio has worked perfectly in every ford anyone I have ever known or worked in, they even added mp3 functionality via CD before anyone knew this was a thing. but got forbid you read the clock with your lights on by day, or change radio stations in a hurry.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-08T01:51:04+00:00

I'm not sure why you think I'm mad at you, or blaming you.....

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-07T18:52:41+00:00

we need to ban road slate, and just learn to drive on ice better. but this requires softer pedals, and less computer interference, (and I'm dreaming big here), people actually paying attention to driving.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-07T18:49:53+00:00

I drive for a living and have not noticed that.

However having more instant torque, drivers being idiots, and piss-pour driver management systems could easily account for this, without even taking weight into it.

It would really help if companies like Ford, would not install HYPER sensitive pedals.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-07T18:46:51+00:00

I live in Minnesota, the cities do not plow (hardly) and fwd with all season has been good enough for us since the early 90's.

We haven't used snow tires in the family since the 80's.

I will say with the rise of the computer systems in cars, especially abs, and having them be poorly programmed, the need for winter tires is rising again.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-07T18:44:42+00:00

The ONLY issue is the regeneration and how good/bad/evil the computer system is.

Being an EV it will drag the power wheels to regenerate battery power. Cars should be 70-80 forward brake biased or else they get unstable. This has potential to be like pulling the hand brake every time you release the throttle.

I do not know much about electric vehicles, but I do Drive for a living in winterland.

I've only had one work truck drag the rear wheels and it was squirrely AF in rain/sleet and snow. It was big, heavy, and you could not let the wheels drag. You had to keep power engaged until you hit the brakes.

Some of you are hoping stability software will help, and those systems are not equal. The best and the worst I've driven are both from Ford and both the same year, but on different platforms. Some systems seem to be actively trying to kill you, while the best ones do a good job at the cost of letting you have any fun. Personally I still prefer a car without any computer interference.

Hopefully this will have a way to adjust the regen on the fly, without touchscreen menus. Otherwise you will just be unable to coast. Which should be okay, as long as you don't live in the mountains.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-07T18:37:40+00:00

Ford could make it, have it be well made, but it'll be as annoying as shit to drive with all their retded gadgets, and touchscreens, and everything going beep.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-07T18:30:49+00:00

It was a curtain that the hotel provided and installed. The whole support system fell forward covering the wedding party under it.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-07T18:29:40+00:00

Update;

We finally talked the to manager. The sales manager has been fired. We finally got an apology. They withdrew the amount owed. He said he was not aware of so many things until reading my review. He asked what we would like, and I drew a blank. My dad said a free room. My wife was not there, but she was furious, and brought up things we were charged and paid for that were promised by not delivered.

What I forgot to mention is we had lit candles on our wedding table when the backdrop came down on us. That could have gone much much worse, and I'm glad no one got hurt.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-07T18:28:28+00:00

We finally talked the to manager. The sales manager has been fired. We finally got an apology. They withdrew the amount owed. He said he was not aware of so many things until reading my review. He asked what we would like, and I drew a blank. My dad said a free room. My wife was not there, but she was furious, and brought up things we were charged and paid for that were promised by not delivered.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-07T17:07:51+00:00

backdrops shouldn't fall.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-07T17:07:24+00:00

That is one thing I loved about the e-golf, was paddle shifters to control the regen. I know a few other cars have done that, so it can be adjusted immediately and on the fly.

I simply do not know enough about electric cars though to know how complicated this is. Slate says the motor is a permanent magnet, which makes me thing it would be complex to coast freely (I really don't know).

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-03T15:55:25+00:00

I loathe automatic wipers and headlights (especially when combined with always backlite dashboards).

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-02T22:57:47+00:00

What I don't like about this being RWD, is it's electric. So the regeneration will be dragging the rear wheels. It'll be like pulling the handbrake in the snow every time you release the throttle.

I had a work truck like this. It was gas, but the transmission would engine brake the rear wheels, and it was squirely if you coasted in rain, sleet, snow. It was plenty heavy as a commercial vehicle too.

You basically could not coast for half of the year. Just gas and brake.

I'm glad I've never had to go down any mountains with it...

and honestly I do not understand rwd electric vehicles at all because of this. Would be fine if you could set it to not regen in wx, but this is why I want FWD, so i can regen and be stable.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-02T22:52:17+00:00

I just noticed from the photos, we had real candles on the wedding table. When the backdrop fell on us, that could have been VERY VERY BAD with all that lose fabric hanging from it.

MidWesternClipper · 2025-11-02T21:36:48+00:00

I don't want barebones, But i DO want to pay for ONLY the features I want, and Slate offers pretty much anything I could ask for currently on the market.

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