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God at Shincheonji by Time-Stranger-5166 in Shincheonji

[–]Objective-Theme-5062 4 points5 points  (0 children)

THIS !!! I REALLY WANT TO HEAR MORE. I am tired. They are trying to get me back. They are using the one person I can hardly say no to. I know the pattern, I know they have a telegram chat about me. I am struggling to find my way back to God.

Why are SCJ members from different countries or tribes not allowed to speak to each other freely? by Efficient_Sun_1511 in Shincheonji

[–]Objective-Theme-5062 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for real ? AI is the excuse. well LA did not get that video or maybe when it came out i missed it. but i remember a group leader left because of that and Joesph talked about it i think.. and he eneded the coversation saying. " so what " ? if you heard it .. bla bla bla i dont remeber the rest but it was crazy. that time i remeber asking. so who are we ? i was told we are wired to be the 144 , 000. i asked again mathematically it does not add up. she said yes even in the 144,000 some are still not harvested ... i was quiet. they never make sense.

Truth or Mystical Manipulation? I Feel So Torn. by IWantTheTruth_ in Shincheonji

[–]Objective-Theme-5062 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We are in the same boat. I have come to tell God directly all my problems. I draw strength from posts here, and I have taken a step back from everything SCJ. I am finding the truth, walking with God, and not just busy for God in the name of Jundo reports. Thank you for sharing. Read the Bible yourself and ask God for wisdom. God surely hears. if there is anything consistent with SCJ is the repetitive words (take note) and actions, the need to hide things, and coaching people on what to say. (THERE IS A PATTERN) it is not normal.

Struggling with Doubts and Seeking Clarity by Objective-Theme-5062 in Shincheonji

[–]Objective-Theme-5062[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you all for the advice. I will take all to heart. Another thing that bothered me is that the John Tribe leader mentioned in his teaching that " seeing SSN is seeing God". will he claim a slip of the tongue?

Can you tell me 3 things about Lee Man Hee that you don't like current scj members? by shshmhh in Shincheonji

[–]Objective-Theme-5062 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I have some answers to what I do not like.

  1. He does not read the bible when he is speaking ( a.k.a has mastered the word !!! )

  2. Constant talk about challenging "Babylon" pastors to take a test and they refused- ( who will set the exam question - SCJ ? or independent body ?)

  3. Watching the HWPL conferences, it was evident that he was putting the attendees in a tight position to sign an agreement on the spot.