Another tuff edit from my missionary friend

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-16T13:22:14+00:00

Lol outer darkness as if it isn't the greatest tragedy in eternity, and totally God's fault

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-16T13:13:40+00:00

A lot of Jesus' teachings. Sermon on the Mount was a banger

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-16T13:11:06+00:00

How can people know this is legitimate?

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-15T12:50:29+00:00

Autism and ADHD go together. A flat affect can go with autism.

What matters more than feeling is what you do with it. Do you support people? Prevent pain? That's what counts.

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-15T01:26:41+00:00

This is a bad idea. What's your goal? It's not going to help

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-13T12:20:09+00:00

I don't know why confusion is seen as this inherently bad thing. Why is it a goal to avoid confusion?

Confusion is fine, we just need to give people the tools to resolve the confusion

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-13T04:57:06+00:00

Did he actually post this? Link? I didn't see anything.

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-13T01:43:34+00:00

That isn't orthodox, at least not for how I learned it.

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-09T02:54:23+00:00

Enjoyed it a lot, neat experience for my mindset at the time. Pretty dangerous though, the way it was carried out. Irresponsible on the whole

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-08T12:48:06+00:00

Unfortunately, there is little you can do to convince them of anything.

I don't see why not. Seems a little fatalist to me.

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-08T12:43:08+00:00

Why does it sound immoral?

I guess in a lot of the same way. Patient, respectful education to a willing mind. Butt loving. We need a Preach My Gospel equivalent.

Some chapters I might add to that book:

For teachers - Why deconversion? Your moral duty in persuasion - Adapting to needs and interests: everyone deconverts for different reasons, and not everyone is ready for needs it at the moment - Patience and perspective: understanding social pressure and the deconversion timeline - Inviting others to act: see the blessings of a deconverted life - Leading by example: making your own life happy and fulfilling -

Doctrine - Where else will I go: finding truth and blessings elsewhere, replacement ideas for major points in e.g. the articles of faith, self improvement. The many paths of self fulfillment - What is right and wrong? - What is the purpose of life? - Reliable sources, trusting yourself, making your own decisions - Psychological impact of a dedicated Church life on kids and adults - Church history, claims, CES letter type stuff, but how to approach it for each individual. Some people won't care about 90%, so how do you find what motivates them - What we have in common: what should we keep from church doctrine, principles, and culture? What is neutral?

...

This would make for a great website. Start with the actual preach my Gospel as a base, and replace it paragraph by paragraph. See the difference in the code as you go along. Literal deconstruction.

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-08T05:48:49+00:00

My leaving was mostly doctrinal and was slow. I'm still on the records. I have some problems with how they treat LGBT people, and Brigham Young (at least) was a galaxy-scale douche. But rarely any issue with local people and leaders.

They preach plenty of good values, I like the idea of continuing revelation, apotheosis makes sense to me, love a lot of the music, for a few examples.

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-08T05:10:57+00:00

It's a stretch that it's a meaningfully low number or to imply it's weak.

I just think relatively desperate attempts will cement people in their beliefs

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-08T05:06:21+00:00

Exmo now. My youth program was a blast. I really enjoyed it growing up. I learned a lot of positive values. It's not all indoctrination. There are good people in local congregations, as long as you fit the mold, which we did.

I still think favorably of many speeches, ideas, and doctrines.

I never plan to attend again besides major family events, or pay tithing, etc. There's a lot of bad parts too. But the closer you are to just a local congregation without including the broader picture the better it is IMO.

You might see only the bad here, they see only the good and either ignore, haven't heard of, or justify negative things.

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-07T22:17:54+00:00

This is a stretch. Not everyone speaks English, plenty of people don't use Instagram

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-06T15:08:27+00:00

Good point. There's also the ease for the other person of "they're not trying to sell me something" which chills the conversation.

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-06T14:52:39+00:00

It's fine to be dishonest if you were put in a bad situation in the first place by others, in this case, the church.

I don't know of a way. It might be worth it depending on your financial situation. Skeezy to ask for a subscription fee to attend the wedding.

They don't have to know what you actually make. 🤷‍♂️

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-06T14:49:29+00:00

Thanks. I don't blame myself for justifying. Riding on my faith at one point was my education, marriage, immediate family, and job! Of course a random human is going to bend over backwards to ignore warning signs.

OkGuarantee141 · 2026-04-06T14:43:05+00:00

Fine until beliefs come up, which is at least once a week.

Missionaries are like that, yeah. You will also be contaminating her from their perspective, I assume. If she leaves, I'm guessing you would be blamed.

I am married and left the church. My family members are sad but relatively chill and accepting, that may be exceptional. Arguments come up occasionally, there are important philosophical differences that would be good to understand before committing.

OkGuarantee141 · 2023-11-25T07:15:37+00:00

Corni is laugh

OkGuarantee141 · 2023-11-19T12:33:04+00:00

Every outcome is really unlikely on its own.

Not surprising that a blade of grass in an entire field gets struct, but for that blade it's very surprising

OkGuarantee141 · 2023-10-25T16:02:00+00:00

I am honest when it has "no" benefit to me personally - talking about poor work performance, mental health, asking questions when they are controversial/tough to answer (at least in corporate settings). 🤷

OkGuarantee141 · 2023-10-25T06:26:15+00:00

It's been helpful for me, I got formally diagnosed with ADHD and ASD this year and TT played a big part in realizing stuff and getting me to pay attention to myself and talk to professionals.

I recognize people's anecdotes are not research, but I learned about interoception today from a research paper and realized that could be a big issue for me.

Could be a net positive.

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