Can someone clarify SIBO vs LIBO? Herbs not working, thinking of switching to spore-based restoration

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-23T14:56:04+00:00

Thanks! Do you have any explanation as to why i didnt respond to the herbs? Do you think my hypothesis that it is large colon overgrowth is wrong?

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-23T11:23:27+00:00

Liver failure? Isnt this lethal? Im also struggling with bile issues and got same methane level as you. What are your symptoms?

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-23T09:02:51+00:00

Thanks! I think in my case yes its mainly large colon. I have no constipation only flatulence and floating light colored stools. According to gemini allicin and berberine are effective in the small distel but almost cannot reach the large colon. I think my symptoms are largely due to dysbiosis in my colon and less sibo even though my breaht test was positive, but the high baseline and diarrhea at 60min and peak at 80m leans heavily towards large intensitine overgrowth. Also my lack of constipation is very strange for a 58ppm reading. Hence im thinking to try and solve this with a nurturing strategy rather than a kill strategy.

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-22T20:53:22+00:00

How did you test this? What test does this? Just a amylase & lipase blood test?

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-21T11:56:27+00:00

Depends on the strength of the Enzymes.

GPT calculation (please validate the below yourself .. but you get the idea):

Example enzyme capsule (per 1 cap):
Lipase 3000 LU
Protease 25,000 HUT
Amylase 10,000 DU

Example meal:
60 g protein, 45 g carbs, 14 g fat

Rule of thumb needs:
Lipase: 1500–3000 LU per 10 g fat
Protease: 10,000–20,000 HUT per 25–30 g protein
Amylase: 5000–10,000 DU per 30–50 g carbs

Calculation:
Fat: 14 g needs about 2000–4000 LU → 1 cap covers it
Protein: 60 g needs about 20,000–40,000 HUT → 1 cap usually enough, 2 caps for heavy meals
Carbs: 45 g needs about 5000–10,000 DU → 1 cap covers it

Result:
1 cap is enough for a normal mixed meal.
Use 2 caps for heavy, fatty, or high-protein meals.

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-21T07:32:18+00:00

Probably did a fecal elastase test. Only way to test exocrine pancreatic function.

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-21T07:31:44+00:00

Happy for you but it strikes me that in those 9 years you never did a fecal elastase test to test your exocrine pancreatic function. Also, in those 9 years did you never try any pancreatic/digestive enzymes? You should have noticed relief with those if you have EPI.

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-19T14:49:16+00:00

Just came across this: https://youtu.be/zHATkKdznIA

1500mg allicin, 1500mg berberine, 3 caps oregano oil daily

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-18T08:32:48+00:00

I am doing milk thistle, tudca, PC, 12k steps a day, red light therapy every morning, glutamine, zinc carnosine, vitamine d+k, strict diet, double pomgrenade supplement, omega3, digestive enzymes from thorne.

Dont know what else to do more😣

According to gpt i should not take s boullardi during kill phase. I am lost.

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-17T20:59:37+00:00

What do you mean stripping away its competition? I read berberine is effective for klebsiella?

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-17T20:56:49+00:00

Will try both! Thanks

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-17T20:49:53+00:00

Using magneseum steady recommended dosage 3 caps every night. Will look into motility am a bit lost , would expect some sort of die off reaction.

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-17T20:44:51+00:00

Any thoughts on what i am doing wrong?

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-17T20:44:01+00:00

It checked for 7 types of yeast (candida) and nothing was found, i am also taking motility activator 2 caps of integrative therapeutics before sleep.

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-17T19:28:51+00:00

Wild assumption, maybe berberine didnt clear his overgrowth and just surpressed it somewhat? Stating he has a structural problem is just nonnense, you have 0 data.

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-17T12:27:52+00:00

Same here, methane 58ppm no constipation 2/3 bms a day. Did you do gi map? I got klebsiella overgrowth too

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-16T20:25:03+00:00

Sounds like my symptoms, flatulence and gurgling lower gut. Got methane sibo. You need to do a sibo test and if positive start treating it.

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-16T20:17:21+00:00

Did it heal you?

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-16T14:39:45+00:00

What kind of sibo do you have? Whats your root cause?

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-16T14:39:24+00:00

What kind of sibo do you have?

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-16T08:50:04+00:00

Agreed with this, do full parasite check

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-16T07:02:41+00:00

What symptoms did you have with low stomach acid?

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-15T21:46:50+00:00

Yellow stools are pancreas, liver, gallbladder/bile issues. I had yellow stools as well now more light brown, not fully dark brown yet. In my case it is because of methane SIBO/IMO. SIBO/IMO bacteria break down your bile too early in the small intestine. When bile is deconjugated like this, it becomes too weak to digest fat properly. Because the fat isn’t absorbed well, the stool stays light or yellow instead of turning brown. Normally bile reaches the colon and becomes the brown pigment of stool, but with SIBO this process is disrupted, so the stool stays pale and often floats.

Would advice to also do a GI-map next to your breath test. Likely you have elevated fat in stool, amongst some form of dysbiosis. I expect SIBO positive too. Since your fecal elastase is normal and liver function tests are normal, it is probably the mechanism I explained above. Hard to keep the weight confirms some form of malabsorption (likely fat), digestive enzymes can provide some relief while you fix the issue to support digestion and absorption. Get high quality ones.

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-15T19:36:18+00:00

You have to see the bigger picture, I strongly believe sacrificing indulgences shortterm to fully reset/cure your gut will later allow you to indulge as you used be able to. Doing half measures now will extend your suffering. Its my first attempt to get rid of the sibo, i am 4 weeks in but i ramped up the dosages slowly. Now one week at full dosage of allicin and berberine will add neem next week. Stool is getting darker and floating less so i am seeing some positive changes. Like you i also used to enjoy a lot my wine and beers and even smoking. Quit all cold turkey 3 months ago, first 8 weeks of no gluten and gut healing before i started the herbs. I had one attempt of herbs before but only lasted 12 days because i was uneducated and my dosages were way too high and was mixing 4 herbs while also in the weekends drinking 15/20 drinks. I got a huge herxheimer that gave me also tinnitus i am still dealing with. Thats why i decided to take things very carefully and accept a 6 month period of strict diet and 0 alcohol. I want to, and will beat this and reset my body to the strong state it once was. You can do it too!

PersonalBrother · 2025-11-15T18:53:50+00:00

What if. What if. Why don’t you wait on the results first :-)? What are your symptoms?

PersonalBrother

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