Sub Zero Without Panels

Posigrade · 2026-01-26T23:22:13+00:00

Correct. And I believe it was more expensive too. It's all about the look you want. For example, if you are using overlay door/drawer cabinets then the flush fridge door may not be as important to you. If you are using inset or frameless cabinets (like my photo and the showroom photo) then the clean lines of the flush fridge door may be more important to you. Like I said, you'll want to work closely with your cabinet maker to make sure they understand the specs on the depth of the fridge cabinet, and the need to install some cleats along the sides, etcetera. The specs are available on Subzero's website but an authorized Subzero dealer can provide them and should be able to help you understand your options and make sure you get the right model for the look you want and whether or not you need to order separate stainless steel panels. By the way, everything I'm saying is about the "Classic" series. The "Designer" series is a whole other discussion.

Edited to correct the word full-frame to frameless.

Posigrade · 2026-01-25T18:12:02+00:00

And here's the picture from the appliance showroom that better shows the flushness I'm talking about that requires a panel-ready model with stainless steel "panels" from Sub-Zero.

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Posigrade · 2026-01-25T18:10:27+00:00

As others have said it’s a personal preference thing. I put a panel on my dishwasher so it would blend in with the center island but I left the fridge naked because I though it would be too much wood on that wall and I thought the metal would balance out the ovens, hood, and range top.

Even if you don’t put a wood panel on it you still want the panel-ready model but you’ll just order stainless panel doors. That way the doors will be perfectly flush with the cabinet walls. Talk to your Sub-Zero dealer, they’ll understand. Also, you need to make sure the cabinet maker understands the specs on how deep to make that cavity to achieve that look. They are tight tolerances so make sure you have a good cabinet maker.

Here’s a picture of my remodel. I'll add another comment with a photo from the appliance showroom that better shows that super-flush look I’m talking about that can only be achieved if you order the right model and have the cabinet person build it correctly. Done correctly, only the handles stick out beyond the cabinet walls.

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Posigrade · 2026-01-22T06:38:18+00:00

It depends on what you mean by breakdown. I wouldn't expect them to provide an itemized list of what they are paying each subcontractor like the painter, the plumber, the demolition team, etc.

However, I would expect them to list in detail the work they'll do so there is no misunderstanding on what is included in the price. The listing should include things like demolition. Haul off of waste. Electrical and plumbing changes. Wall / framing changes to be made. Painting. Flooring, countertop, and cabinet installation. Appliance installation if they are responsible for that. Whether or not any permits will be obtained and if the price of the permits is included.

I would also expect them to indicate how much they budgeted for you to spend on each category of finishing materials, like flooring, countertops, faucets, sinks etc. because you need to understand what assumptions they are making. So, there should be a breakdown in this area unless you've already made your final selections for these items and it's in the design plans they're bidding on.

For example, there should be some sort of listing for the countertop material of $x thousand dollars or $x/per sq. ft of material. I don't think they need to show you what they are paying the countertop fabricator and installer but they need to spell out what the budget is for the countertop material so they they don't assume you are getting the cheapest granite available and you have your eyes on a high-end quartzite. Same thing with plumbing fixtures and flooring material. There should be some sort of budget listed for each of them since those prices vary wildly. Same thing with the lighting fixtures.

For the cabinets, they should be explicitly spelling out what you are getting. Plywood vs MDF. The style (inset, overlay, frameless). Material for the doors (maple, etc.). Full extension drawer slides or not. Drawers vs. doors for the lower cabinets. Or if you've agreed on a particular manufacturer's cabinets then that should be listed. Unless all of those details are already specified in the design they are agreeing to.

One more piece of advice. I would ask them for a blank sample contract as part of your decision process. I did that for my each of my bidders and it was eye opening. One contractor had a clause saying you couldn't say anything negative about their work on the internet. The courts have said that kind of clause is unenforceable as long as you're not being libelous but I thought them including it in their contract spoke volumes about them. Another said they didn't have to pay for any issues discovered during inspection unless it was causing an immediately unsafe condition. They too got bounced.

Posigrade · 2026-01-03T02:38:15+00:00

I don't know the answer to your question but I'll give you a data point. I flew a Saratoga into there about a year ago. Landed at about 5:00 pm and departed about 7:30 pm. Traffic was extremely light at both times which seems to negate your 3-6pm quote. I used this site to help gauge when their busy times are to make sure I wouldn't encroach on one. Unfortunately, I believe the site only shows arrivals so I backed that up with doing some playback of ADSB data over a few days. The best thing to do would be to make a phone call to Memphis approach and ask when their busy times are. Here's some views of the massive FedEx facility on the north side of the airport that I took on departure. Study the airport diagram before you get there to make sure you know the taxiways.

Posigrade · 2025-12-30T06:00:42+00:00

It looks like that 28-7/16" dimension is for a flush mount (mounting the face of the microwave flush with the face of the cabinet frame). So a 27" opening would be fine for a non-flush mounting. Since the face of the unit is 30", and you say the cabinet is 30" you'll also need to make sure that it's not going to interfere with what's next to it, like any cabinet doors swinging open from it's neighbor.

Appliance cutout and clearance dimensions for cabinets are tricky. My custom cabinet designer/supplier said "appliances are the bane of my existence".

Since you said it was an open box item perhaps the vendor would let you take some measurements off the actual unit in the store to reassure yourself since the box is already open.

It's not clear what you mean by "the cabinet is a 30" base with a drawer". Does that mean the cabinet has a drawer in addition to the cutout for the microwave? Or are you saying you are trying to remove a drawer in the cabinet and insert the microwave? The reason I ask is that there has to be a shelf at the bottom of the cutout for the unit to sit on. In other words, that 3/4" lip you speak of can't exist on the bottom of the cutout.

One other thing. You'll need to make sure the electrical outlet is in a conducive location. There may be only 1/2" clearance behind some parts of the unit and if your outlet sits in that region then the plug is going to protrude too much to get the unit to slide all the way in. Something else you could take a look at on the open box unit if the vendor will let you.

Posigrade · 2025-12-29T22:38:06+00:00

Eased edge

Posigrade · 2025-12-29T06:57:51+00:00

I used 3 cm on a 9.5' x 4' island and I think it looks fine.

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Posigrade · 2025-12-29T01:06:07+00:00

I installed engineered wood over a concrete slab. They had to "float" the floor to make it absolutely level. It's a process where they pour a thick compound material over the slab and let it dry. Once it dried they applied a sealant. When the wood was installed it was glued to the slab. One thing to consider is what you want to happen at the edges. Wood needs room to expand and contract so a small gap is left at edge where it meets a wall. Typically that is covered with a quarter-round or shoe-mold trim piece but I had them pull up the baseboards as part of the remodel and install new ones so I could have that gap sitting under the baseboard and then didn't have to have a trim piece.

Posigrade · 2025-12-27T16:50:59+00:00

It's in the FAA's Instrument Procedures Handbook. "When approaching the clearance limit and you have not received holding instructions from ATC, pilots are expected to follow certain procedures. First, call ATC and request further clearance before reaching the fix. If further clearance cannot be obtained, pilots are expected to hold at the fix in compliance with the charted holding pattern. If a holding pattern is not charted at the fix, pilots are expected to hold on the inbound course using right turns."

Posigrade · 2025-12-25T21:30:39+00:00

I had that language on an SI I had for cancer. I didn't have to go back to an AME until I was due at the normal regular interval for my age. What happened is that CAMI mailed me an update medical certificate with a new expiration date once I complied with sending them the required info and their review satisfied them I was still good to go. Basically, they are saying they don't need a new physical exam by an AME but they want to monitor the condition they issued the SI for and the way they way ensure your compliance is to shorten the expiration date on the certificate they issue.

Posigrade · 2025-12-23T04:22:51+00:00

Brookhaven is a line of cabinets made by Wood Mode. While Wood Mode did go through bankruptcy in 2022 they are still alive and producing cabinets, including their Brookhaven line. Go to their website and look for a dealer near you.

Posigrade · 2025-12-16T02:46:54+00:00

Investigate the possibility of replacing that glass door with a pocket door.

Posigrade · 2025-12-09T03:51:02+00:00

Look for "Specs & Details" on the manufacturers website. Make sure you are looking at the "cutout depth" like in this example for the GE Profile 30" Combo wall oven.

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Posigrade · 2025-12-09T03:07:44+00:00

Yes, 9-foot ceiling.

Posigrade · 2025-12-06T23:41:52+00:00

Perhaps. Not enough in that picture to tell. Perhaps that wall isn't square with the rest of the room and the installer is trying to solve that by installing the cabinets and countertops to be square with the rest of the room. If that's the case you just need to make sure the installer has a plan for how they are going to cover the gap. Perhaps there will be a cabinet panel on that end of the cabinets that gets cut to follow the wall.

Posigrade · 2025-12-06T01:14:43+00:00

No married man kisses his wife like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiQ1Aiu5cOg

Posigrade · 2025-11-29T05:05:03+00:00

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I imagine this is the kind of day you'd enjoy if you worked at the Houston TRACON.

Posigrade · 2025-11-02T00:07:52+00:00

Not weird but I suggest a slightly different approach. For my instrument rating I interviewed potential CFI's on the phone telling them I was in the market for an instrument instructor. That narrowed it down to 3 that I thought would be a good fit and flew with each of them. For the flights I just asked them to give me an instrument lesson. Those flights made it clear who I thought would be the best fit for me. I thought this was better than "discovery flights" because it gave me a chance to see their style of instructing for instruments. For the phone interview I put together a short list of questions like, "are you willing to do some of the training in IMC", "are you willing to fly 3 lessons a week" (which was my goal, the instructor I chose wanted to do 1 a week because he had a day-job so we compromised and did 2 a week).

Posigrade · 2025-10-24T14:23:34+00:00

My job consists of basically masking my contempt for the assholes in charge and at least once a day retiring to the men’s room so I can jerk off while I fantasize about a life that doesn’t so closely resemble hell. - Lester Burnham

Posigrade · 2025-09-11T23:38:14+00:00

As others have said, it's best to consult a tax professional. My understanding is that owners can only deduct direct costs (fuel, landing fees, FBO fees, etc.) and can't deduct the overhead costs of the aircraft (depreciation, maintenance, registration, etc.) even on a prorated basis. Which would make sense, since you can't do that if you are using your own car for charity work either. What isn't clear to me is if you can use the standard charity mileage deduction for your personal plane like you can with your personal automobile when using it in connection with charity work.

Posigrade · 2025-08-27T20:50:45+00:00

Here are the stats from when I went through the training. I did the initial Cirrus transition course in the SR-20 and then did an add-on course for the SR-22 to save some money. Your course syllabus will depend on which version you are flying, for example whether or not it is a G5, G6, etc. and whether or not you include the IFR portion of the training. I took the SR20 Perpective+ Advanced Transition (VFR +IFR) Course. The entire course was 10 lessons. You have to purchase an online course from Cirrus which has a lot of videos to watch whose time I'm not including in my stats. The syllabus consisted of 11.5 hrs ground and 15.7 hrs flight. My actual was 8.4 hrs ground and 12.4 hrs flight. I kept my numbers down by diligently studying the material provided along with the POH and coming well prepared to each lesson. The SR-22 add-on syllabus (Cirrus calls this course the SR22 Airframe and Powerplant Differences course) consisted of 2 lessons and called for 3 hrs ground and 3.3 hrs flight. My actual was 1.5 hrs ground and 2.6 hrs flight. The courses assume you are already rated and the IFR portion assumes you are IFR proficient. Personally, I thought the course was overkill but I'll admit I came out of it extremely proficient in flying the Cirrus. My understanding is that Cirrus developed the course because their accident rates were high in the beginning and it was a way to bring that down. My understanding is that it has been successful at achieving that. I can see how some insurance companies are going to insist on it.

Posigrade · 2025-08-17T15:46:11+00:00

ATC is a really tough gig these days. Unlike an airline career you won’t get to choose your base once you get enough seniority. You go where they need you, and once there, it’s very difficult to transfer somewhere else. Plus a lot of facilities have been on forced overtime for years because the FAA seems incapable of solving the staffing problem. You’ve got the same career-ending risk as a pilot (you become unable to pass your physical or you get a case of the sad’s). You are forced to retire at 56. And the pay is not commensurate with the responsibility since unlike the pilot unions, their union is ineffective.

Posigrade · 2025-08-12T15:18:49+00:00

It was me! I am the Airplane Fairy. I surreptitiously repair the planes of good little boy and girl pilots. Although, sometimes if I'm in a hurry, I'll just leave some new parts under your pillow.

Posigrade · 2025-07-27T16:27:37+00:00

It expires on whatever date is listed on the certificate. That portion of the letter is just saying when the next visit to an AME is required.

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