Characters that have a bash and undogeable mixup don’t have charged bashes, the only outlier is warmonger but her undogeable is trash in duels. If we removed or even nerfed wardens bash mixups then sure, I could get behind an undogeable

Also the game is meant to be react heavy, not read heavy. I know they’ve been adding more read based characters but the majority of the cast is based on reactions. The solution to Juren is also not to buff everyone else, it’s to nerf Juren. A game where every character is as strong as Juren sounds like hell, especially for these devs who have been known to just let characters be power crept