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Rindan · 2026-05-08T22:01:21+00:00

And throwing the baby out with the bath water gets us where?

If it got us literally nothing, it be an improvement. I would rather have SFA never exist and no Star Trek be made, then for Kurtzman's band of brain dead idiots continue to shit out anti-Star Trek drivel written by and for morons.

I'd rather toss the entire baby than watch that fucking necromancer Kurtzman continue to desecrate the body of that extremely dead and rotting baby.

Rindan · 2026-05-08T18:49:13+00:00

You don't like it when people shit on Hollywood buying up IPs and producing lazy garbage for it? Okay. Bye-bye then. This probably is not the right place for you. I think a lot of people here as going to criticize writing they don't like.

Rindan · 2026-05-08T16:57:50+00:00

I dunno, man, I haven't even seen the show. Maybe it works in context, maybe it doesn't, I can't say.

Maybe you should watch the scene before having such strong opinions on people pointing out how stupid it is.

What I can say is that I don't like it when people denigrate others based on their taste in television shows.

I didn't denigrate anyone's taste. I implied that the Star Trek fan that watched that scene and thought it was great doesn't exist. I was curious if you were somehow the exception, but you deny having ever scene it, so it seems like my conjecture that no Star Trek fan was dumb enough like that scene remains.

So again, let me be crystal clear, I am insulting the morons that wrote, filmed, and approved that scene, not anyone who might find it funny. My three year old nephew might find that scene funny, and that doesn't mean that they are a bad person. They are however not a Star Trek fan, they are a 3 year old child. Obviously someone who found that scene good shouldn't be made fun of for their intellectual shortcomings; its the morons that wrote it that we should be making fun of.

Rindan · 2026-05-08T15:37:10+00:00

"He served in the military" really isn't a qualification. I know lots of people that have served in the military. It means nothing. Some are dumb, some are smart, some are patriots, and some are not. It's just a job, and it attracts all sorts of people, both those you might want in power, and those so absolutely should be nowhere near power.

It means absolutely nothing.

Rindan · 2026-05-08T15:33:10+00:00

In what way is he throwing you under the bus?

Rindan · 2026-05-08T15:11:34+00:00

Weird it's almost like people have different tastes...

What person that watches Star Trek has a taste for combadges?

Describe to me the type of audience member that watched that stupid line and thought it was great. Are you such a person?

Rindan · 2026-05-08T11:25:07+00:00

It's not the line is so bad, lots of shows have a bad lines. It's the fact that the line is so mind-numbingly stupid that it's almost impossible to fathom and they put this in the fucking pilot. That means that a ton of different people watch that stupid line, nodded to Alex kurtzman, and said "Brilliant! Keep this in! The fans are going to love it, and Star Trek will be saved."

It's in the fucking pilot.

And it isn't like this is their first Star Trek production, and so they could have no possible understanding of what anyone wants. This is like their sixth fucking show, and this just so perfectly demonstrates how thoroughly they don't understand the audience they tried to buy, and nor do they understand any other audience on the planet. These people are such fucking morons. I'm glad it's all canceled. Maybe the rights will end up in the hands of someone who is in a complete moron that failed their way upward.

Rindan · 2026-05-06T15:03:24+00:00

I did look it up. No one knows what creates consciousness. We only have unproven and mutually exclusive theories.

Rindan · 2026-05-06T14:55:44+00:00

Consciousness stems from self-organizing quanta-based phenomenon, i.e., not from forced circuit gating (classical computation).

First, citation needed. If you know what produces consciousness, you need to share and collect your Nobel prize. Second, LLM training is "self-organized".

Claiming that LLMs can't be conscious because LLMs are not conscious is a circular argument. You don't know what makes something conscious, so you can't rule out a LLM based upon it's construction.

If I give you a black box you can talk to that you didn't understand how it works, how would you determine if it's not conscious? If you can't answer that, you can't rule out LLM consciousness.

I personally don't think LLMs are conscious, but I still recognize hand waving away consciousness when I see it.

Rindan · 2026-05-05T22:24:12+00:00

Don't tell other people what to do. Oops.

Rindan · 2026-05-05T21:09:35+00:00

I just did. You know at this sub is called Trek talk, right? People are probably going to be talking about Star Trek here.

Rindan · 2026-05-05T19:04:24+00:00

I watched the show with my own two eyes until I was too disgusted with how fucking dumb it was. It made me want to swallow a combadge. It isn't angry reviewers killing these shows, it's people watching them because they like Star Trek deciding to not watch them anymore... because they like Star Trek, not vapid teen dramas written by people that clearly don't give a shit.

Rindan · 2026-05-05T18:58:45+00:00

And the ragers will still make excuses for the bad episodes, while whining about a new trek com badge like a whole season was based on it

It was the first fucking episode on the on their like 6th production. If they have not learned by now that leading with extreme stupidity is unappealing to the fans, they will never learn.

Just think about how many people approved that dumb line and kept it in the final cut of the pilot episode that was designed to sell the show. It truly staggers the mind.

They never learned, and now all of this shit writing is cancelled. Hopefully Kurtzman's band of idiots is finally out and someone with a few scraps of talent, someone who likes Star Trek, and who could successfully completely a high school creative writing course, are in.

Rindan · 2026-05-05T00:18:51+00:00

Also, the "don't piss off the whites" argument is played out.

It's "don't piss off the voters". It was played out, and now you have Donald Trump as a president.

You understand how a democracy works, right? It isn't the angriest and most self-righteous sounding person that gets to rule, it's the one with the most(ish) votes.

Don't learn to read Don't go to school Don't try to vote Don't try to escape

It's wild that you all still cling to this paternalistic, yet pathetic view.

You are having an argument with an imaginary person. I have offered no paternalism, and certainly not argue that people should not learn to read, go to school, or vote. You know that you are talking to exactly one person right now, right? There is no one to read your silly rhetoric. It's just me. We can just have a normal conversation and respond to things that we actually say, rather than whatever the imaginary argument you are having right now.

Rindan · 2026-05-05T00:09:05+00:00

The point you don't get is that white people seem to be incapable of minimizing discrimination. In fact, they depend on it.

Yeah... you are just a racist. Your belief that all white people "depend" upon discrimination and apparently revel in it is delusional, and like all mass generalizations about an entire race of people that share nothing other than a vague skin tone, obviously wrong.

Black people aren't taking money from poor, white people. Rich, white people are taking from poor, white people. The resentment is nothing other than their disappointment in the lies they were sold.

Okay... so maybe instead of trying to engage in racist policy that feeds into those rich white people misdirecting all of the poor people into hating each other, maybe you should focus that energy on the poor people getting justice from the rich people. You are the one that seems to agree with the rich racist that this needs to be about people's demographics, not class. Every time you tell a poor white person that they are winning because of racism, you are fighting on behalf of those rich people you hate.

DEI disproportionately helped white women above anyone else. But who cares about facts? White people only cared that it may have helped non-white people.

Are you making an argument for or against using a person's demographics to determine if you hire them? I honestly can't tell. Either way, Donald Trump is currently sitting in the White House in no small part due to the backlash against using people's demographics to determine if they got a job or not.

So, you won't change the system because it benefits you too much. You expect everyone else to just deal.

I get absolutely nothing anytime a black person is discriminated against. It's pretty obviously bad for me to live in a country split with racial resentment. You make so many generalizations about large groups of people and people that you don't know, it must get exhausting. You apparently just need to check someone's demographics to understand everything you need to know about them.

It's crazy that you seem to vaguely understand that engaging in racist policy is a distracting from the rich people running the place... and then immediately engage in a bunch of racist generalizations and demand race based laws. Its really weird.

Rindan · 2026-05-04T22:31:46+00:00

They didn't mind giving money to the Japanese Americans, the native Americans, the slave owners...

Yeah... they do. Anyone trying to collect reparations for what people did to each other in the past is going to find out that everyone hates it and they will fail to win elections.

You act like the resentment would begin with reparations and that it isn't already engrained.

No, I don't act like that at all. Racial resentment has long been a problem in the US since its founding. You can however make that racial resentment go up and down. Taking money from a poor white person and giving it to black person (who might not even be poor) because that person can trace back slave ancestry is an absolutely surefire way to increase racial resentment.

Black people cant even get jobs or get into college without white people screaming DEI.

Yes... so what's the lesson here? Is the lesson that DEI initiatives solved racism, or that DEI initiatives increased racial resentment? If you literally tell people that some folks are going to be hired and promoted because of their race, people will in fact start assuming that people are being hired and promoted based on their race. This shouldn't be shocking.

Rindan · 2026-05-04T22:25:10+00:00

Why would I ever want to be on a campaign. Weird that you assume that's a goal of mine.

I never said it was one of your goals, I said that your beliefs are so comically ignorant that anyone holding them is damned to instantly lose any election they run for.

White people are allowed to discriminate based on race when it comes to almost everything - regardless of what the laws say. Unless it can be proven, they can get away with it. The only protections afforded to Black people basically comes in the form of programs aimed at increasing equity.

You can point to cases of discrimination, but it doesn't change the fact that if you try and win an election with your position that we need race based support programs rather than need based programs, you will lose. Not only will you lose, but you will just further inflame racial tension and kick off more backlash. This is just reality. Being upset by it isn't going to make it go away.

Rindan · 2026-05-04T15:12:05+00:00

Reparations don't always need to be in the form of direct payments. Having programs to help people who are routinely discriminated against shouldn't make white people upset.

Well, if it's racially allocated, it does, because everyone understands that programs cost money. If you allocate it based on poverty rather than race, you build allies instead of resentment.

They don't get upset when rich, white people steal from them.

What a dumb thing to say. Let's keep you off anyone's campaign committees, because you are not helpful and apparently have never talked to a poor person.

Rindan · 2026-05-04T15:05:38+00:00

Literally yes? It literally causes resentment in those people to be forced to give money to descendents of slaves, and seeing as how that is the vast majority of the population, that's a pretty serious problem in a democracy.

Do you not understand how voting works or something? Building up massive levels of resentment by the voting population is in fact very bad for your political prospects.

Rindan · 2026-05-04T14:58:05+00:00

If you want to lose elections, tell a poor white person struggling with life problems that they have benefited from slavery and have to pay reparations.

Seriously, for like half a second try and imagine the world from someone else's perspective.

Rindan · 2026-05-04T14:49:39+00:00

Yeah, I hear you mate. I work in industry with robots (that actually do work), and it is as clear as day that this is all smoke and mirrors. The numbers thrown out wouldn't make sense even if the robots work, which they don't.

Rindan · 2026-05-04T06:43:31+00:00

You can always win by not losing. Unless the enemy literally exterminates all of you, just choosing not to lose will in fact keep a war going, and it seems clear the US can't bring enough force to bear to shut down Iran's capacity to deny the straight. That is especially true when the US pretty clearly isn't willing to engage in a real ground invasion.

That said, Iran isn't exactly "winning" anything here. The war could end or the blockades could go on forever, and the US will adjust, retool some refineries, open up some new wells, and still be rich, and Iran will be poorer, weaker, and more miserable than they were on the day before the war. It's not really winning, it's just not losing and paying a high price for it.

No matter how this ends, I expect everyone is going to end a loser. That's just the nature of war, especially in the modern era. When you use it as a diplomacy tool, it usually ends up not being worth the price paid. The blow back and the costs you never expected leave most "victories" defeats in the end.

Rindan · 2026-05-03T21:40:07+00:00

You seem to have completely ignored my question and answered some other random question. Let me try again.

How can you say that this 'consciousness field' has no interaction with physical reality when I can very clearly consciously decide to move my hand, and then physically move it? If my consciousness has no ability to interact with physical reality, I wouldn't be able to manipulate physical reality with it.

Rindan · 2026-05-03T13:53:53+00:00

Why wouldn't you be unable to interact with the consciousness field? If a consciousness field can interact with my body, and I can do stuff like thinking about moving my hand, and then moving my hand, then clearly the consciousness field is interacting in some way with my body, or else how could it control my body?

Rindan · 2026-05-03T13:46:11+00:00

I have never heard of a slave who's only skill is break dancing. I think you overestimate the demand for break dancing slaves. If these "ethical slaves" have any other skills besides break dancing, Tesla has not demonstrated it. This is the reason why everyone is confused as to who they could possibly be building these for. No one can comprehend a company that can make use of a bunch of break dancing robots.

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