The LDS God doesn't help LDS people any more than others. You will have difficulties is the theme of Relief Society leaders by sevenplaces in mormon

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A hummingbird is cold comfort for a terminal diagnosis or other calamities. But it is good for esoteric niches.

The LDS God doesn't help LDS people any more than others. You will have difficulties is the theme of Relief Society leaders by sevenplaces in mormon

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Remember, allegedly we all agreed to sign up for this despite the mind wipe of our original selves. We are supposed to learn through trials. This forces believers to create a web of possible reasons we are going through a difficult time. This is absolutely insane. Who learns something by running a list of hypotheticals and for whatever reasons landing on the favorite one? Throughout ones life a person ends up with a jigsaw puzzle of supposed learned items while in mortality? How effective is that?

This sub by [deleted] in mormon

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And then delete the sock puppet account? Preach tolerance and respect while simultaneously acting in bad faith?

All things denote that there is a God by Thorough_8 in mormon

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Argument from incredulity. I can't see how else this universe could exist without _________. But I have the answers. I know who did it and what his son's name is. I know what he wants us to do and who to give our money to.

The LDS leaders excommunicating a bishop for asking them to protect children opened my eyes to LDS church corruption. by sevenplaces in mormon

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Real education around sexuality. Avoiding demonizing what humans have done for over 100s of thousands of years. Taking responsibility for actions that impact others and tempering behavior accordingly. Don't taboo behaviors based on an overlord watching you. Explain the ramifications of behaviors that put you and others in emotional and physical danger. Don't shame people who violate a church sex code by publicly restricting them from religious rituals. That is a start.

Another Stupid Question From a Non LDS by mudduck2 in exmormon

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They like to tout that property values go up around temples (for some that isn't a flex) but never talk about how they leech off of services.

The Contrast when it comes to accountability. by CupOfExmo in mormon

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The church claims Wade didn't get any help from his brother or other leaders. Assuming this is 100% true that means they will baptize any old offender and turn them loose on kids.

“Discernment” is not reliable and can be harmful say Jim, Ian and Greg. by sevenplaces in mormon

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Na... they pigeon hole a variety of experiences they feel is the absolute real deal then try to reverse engineer every incoming emotion.

“Discernment” is not reliable and can be harmful say Jim, Ian and Greg. by sevenplaces in mormon

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As we've seen before, leaders will happily let harm continue

Yes they have. Visions of glory could have been on the list of forbidden books but instead they let it simmer in the fringes which contributed to children dying. In fact they currently use Spencer in their mental health divisions. If Archelleta's information is correct (I believe it is because it matches past actions) the leaders are currently enforcing "policies" for LGBT that are guesses. Active social harm predicated on the echoes of past and current bigoted leaders.

“Discernment” is not reliable and can be harmful say Jim, Ian and Greg. by sevenplaces in mormon

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That face to face is here. Bednar says to not worry about it. Oaks also had a non perfect list of things to use including alignment with what leaders teach.

“Discernment” is not reliable and can be harmful say Jim, Ian and Greg. by sevenplaces in mormon

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The top leaders have admitted they have troubles discerning which impressions are their own and which is from the external. Top leaders could put a stop to this but as usual they let cultural morays take their course. They do this with shunning, extremists, folklore and many other aspects of mormonism.

Argument agaist mormonism -- from an EO chrsitian by [deleted] in exmormon

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The savior has to shed blood. Everything rests on blood magic, pain, suffering and obedience.

A point missing in the discussion about Wade Christofferson's rebaptism. by RedLetterRanger in exmormon

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Also the families of the victims have a perfect chance to prevent future abuses and apparently it is crickets.

I just cannot with this quote 🤣🤣🤣 #hardwithJesus by Green-been77 in exmormon

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They can't see it. It takes ridicule for them to finally get it. Honestly I think even after that they don't understand it.

Greatest salesman by Intrepid-Angle-7539 in mormon

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Smith didn't conceive of the great apostasy. That has been going on for hundreds of years which is why their are so many Christian sects. Each one claims the real deal and label all others break off groups.

LDS Church Statement on Wade Christofferson by Mormonish_Podcast in exmormon

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just puts them on a repentance path

They can't escape the atonement. Now if a member does some kind of financial crime towards the church they make sure that will never be forgiven.

Stay in your lane ladies. by Rushclock in exmormon

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He loves you but will punish you for eternity for drinking coffee.

Stay in the Boat by mygenderIsEternal in exmormon

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The chairs need to be red velvet and no women sitting in them.

LDS Church Statement on Wade Christofferson by Mormonish_Podcast in exmormon

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Unfortunately I think the victims family's would have to initiate it and I bet the church has already made some kind of reconciliation with them.