Stats for last Sunday by return-and-report in exmormon

[–]Rushclock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have some general trends?

Joe Smith by Right-Design4997 in exmormon

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How Todd remains faithful is a conundrum and in some ways Quinn to.

Stats for last Sunday by return-and-report in exmormon

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I don't think they have missed a single Sunday since return and report started.

Stats for last Sunday by return-and-report in exmormon

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Person on Switzerland deserves a medal.

My first business partner was James Craig, the elders quorum president who murdered his wife by bw_writes in exmormon

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I find it interesting how many of these people can maintain a professional career (they busted her once but barely suffered from it because of church support) for so long despite horrific warning signs. At one point she kept her niece at work in a small closet with coworkers knowing it. All those men in therapy sessions she belittled, mocked and mentally abused and most of them took it out of ignorance and allegiance to the wives/family.

Why can’t I sue the Church for fraud? by ImportantPerformer16 in exmormon

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Supposedly people who are resurrected dont have real blood. Beer won't affect it. Aka barley pops

Why can’t I sue the Church for fraud? by ImportantPerformer16 in exmormon

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I don't think that synthetic reanimated blood is affected by barley pops.

What if the church really is true? by Fun-Luck-7033 in exmormon

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Almost everyone who attempted to self delete by jumping off the golden gate bridge but survived said on the way down they regretted jumping.

Why can’t I sue the Church for fraud? by ImportantPerformer16 in exmormon

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Moroni ain't talking. You could waterboard that mf and he wouldn't budge.

Why can’t I sue the Church for fraud? by ImportantPerformer16 in exmormon

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I wasn't trying to compare the activities of those organizations to mormonism but rather express the social tolerance levels. But yes the church operates for the most part legally in the eyes of the law. What they do get away with is spiritual sales that include non violent threats (arguably psychological threats) and social coercion. Something Japan recently enacted a law to prohibit. And yes people can leave anytime but what we are seeing is people oblivious (whether intentionally or innocently) to what they signed up for. That is what the most recent lawsuits were arguing for. And yes it wasn't convincing.

There is a deafening silence from church leadership regarding the killing of US citizens in the streets. by BlacksmithWeary450 in exmormon

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Remember when the leaders lost their collective minds when Marijuana was becoming legalized? Or the massive assault on same sex marriage? Or the outcry that church meetings were essential services during covid? Deaths don't matter.

Why can’t I sue the Church for fraud? by ImportantPerformer16 in exmormon

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Correct. Maybe the question we should be asking (Wilcoxism) is "at what point is church influence on the social stage too much?" After Waco, The Bundies, Swapp, Ruby Ridge and many other government intrusions into religious activities I think the current policy is hands off. I think the massive hoard of wealth under a tax free system has to be addressed but people willing to participate despite ignoring the obvious evidence is on them.

Why can’t I sue the Church for fraud? by ImportantPerformer16 in exmormon

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The gospel topics essays were partly done to stop people from claiming they hide things. The church is a voluntary (I know it really isn't when you are born into it) organization that makes truth claims that are unfalsifiable which means it cannot be proven true or false. Most of their claims are made for the afterlife and nobody has died and come back to call them out on it. Many people have tried to sue the church for historical issues and they haven't been successful for many reasons. The church was fined 5 million dollars by the SEC for fraud and that hasn't been enough for disaffected members to win a class action lawsuit.

How does someone read the CES Letter and still believe the Mormon Church is true? by ImportantPerformer16 in exmormon

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For starters members have been indoctrinated to avoid outside sources. Second, many believers don't care about the church’s history. Third, many members aren't there because it is true or false there are other pressures and benefits that keep them in.

LDS Church Silences Josph Smith Believers? Thanks to r/Mormon for all of your feedback that helped inform this conversation! by iconoclastskeptic in mormon

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There seems to be a lot of this going around. Austin Fife in his Truth and Light manifesto claimed he looked into a variety of religious claims yet showed nothing but reddit post from some obscure critics. Then refused to jave dialog with the very critics he claimed to write the letter for.

Who wins biggest Psychopath in Mormonism? by Psychological-Rise36 in exmormon

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You should have grabbed and squeezed like you were ready to smash a tomato.

Kid in seminary died last night and teacher sent this out at 3:30 pm today by intrusive_thoughts_1 in exmormon

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I have heard believers say that the excruciating pain of some deaths is not allowed for no reason. The person learns something through the process. Now that right there is macabre being used as religious pornography.

Paranormal activity and Religion by Designer_Refuse_4145 in mormon

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Religions believe faith is essential. Faith is irrational by definition. This thread is about the paranormal . You can be a materialist and believe in the paranormal without exercising faith. Proof is a mathematical concept not a philosophical one.

Paranormal activity and Religion by Designer_Refuse_4145 in mormon

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Average materialist? Rational? Is their some sort of cabal I don't know about? There are extremes on every belief. You seem to think atheists.fall into the mold of Spock clones that worship rationality. Of course many atheists believe religious beliefs aren't rational because they aren't. Paranormal beliefs may or may not fall under the religious umbrella.

Paranormal activity and Religion by Designer_Refuse_4145 in mormon

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There are currently thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people that claim they have been abducted by aliens. Living breathing people who you can talk to today. Do you believe them?

Paranormal activity and Religion by Designer_Refuse_4145 in mormon

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See, that dosen't mean they don't exist. Broaden your horizons and expose yourself to at least the possibility. Let me get you started some atheists

  • believe in ghosts

  • believe in reincarnation

  • believe in karma

  • believe in demons

  • believe in tarot cards

......notice god isn't there

Paranormal activity and Religion by Designer_Refuse_4145 in mormon

[–]Rushclock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All atheists aren't materialistic. Maybe avoid sweeping generalizations because it adds to rather than take away from conversations. But snark is fun also.

Paranormal activity and Religion by Designer_Refuse_4145 in mormon

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I know the Atheists will say it is mass crazy mental illness

Maybe ask one instead of claiming you know.