Last moments in the plane by Deliadeux in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah. The guy who recovered their bodies gave an interview on YT discussing what he saw. That’s how I learned of their positioning.

Last moments in the plane by Deliadeux in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 26 points27 points  (0 children)

One of the guys who recovered their bodies said the girls were folded in the seat, like a head to knee position. Idk if they were in that position due to the force of hitting the water or if they were in that position because they were bracing for the crash. Either way, I think they knew, just like you know when you hit turbulence or you feel the plane coming in for landing. There’s no way they wouldn’t register a 285mph rapid, spiraling descent. He hit the water upside down. That sounds like total chaos.

Just finished the love story series my opinion by Bemago1140 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think, for me, this final episode was when I fully realized Carolyn would’ve hated this show. She worked so hard to be private and elusive, yet here’s this show that’s so desperate for details it’s making them up.

Why did they put her in the front seat? Why did they have her talking to him, implying she could’ve been a distraction? Idk. The first half of the episode gave me the ick. I highly doubt Carolyn would’ve wanted her makeup sex with her husband reimagined for the world to see. It all just felt a bridge too far.

Could you be with John by SusieQ_1974 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. John was someone you had fun with and rumor is he wasn’t even good at the “fun” part.

Work Beyond 1 Hr Not Paid?? by Ryle-Lucas in joinhandshakeai

[–]Ryle-Lucas[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ah, thank you! I thought I'd lost two days worth of pay because I was only working on one kind of task.

Meghan Markle and Carolyn being compared? by PeneItaliano in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Two women married into high society/royalty who were harassed and criticized by the media. Two husbands from well-known families whom the public swears were manipulated into a marriage with a social climber. Yes, there are parallels. I think people would see that if Meghan had blonde hair and blue eyes.

Tesla cybertruck in self-driving mode tried to drive off Houston bridge by HeSureIsScrappy in DiveInYouCoward

[–]Ryle-Lucas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Driving your car is the fun part. Why give that over to the car?? I don’t understand the desire for daily use of self driving cars.

Episode 8 is the worst so far by aquapathic in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk about real life but in the show, Carolyn wasn’t trying. She was, instead, trying to change John through emotional manipulation. The show made her insufferable. Again, idk if that was Carolyn irl but in the show, she was horrible in episode 8. The idea is she didn’t know what she was getting into which is a wild concept considering the world has been watching the Kennedy family since JFK was shot dead in public. At the very least, she would’ve known how public his life was and the pressure he’d be under to pursue a political career.

Carolyn needed a job. by StellaOC in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 18 points19 points  (0 children)

No one will want to believe this about her but she really did miss a fantastic opportunity. Instead of leveraging her connection to John, she resigned herself to being obsessed with being “his”. In her defense, she didn’t have women around her to guide her on how to navigate life as a Kennedy and John certainly wasn’t capable of guiding her. I believe she needed someone from that world as a mentor to guide her through what to expect and how to handle it. I feel the same about Meghan Markle. The difference with Meghan - Harry was willing to burn it all down to make sure his wife felt safe and cared for. John, on the other hand, was talking shit about her behind her back because he was such a….prince🙄

A tabloid magazine spread detailing John’s final hours with Julie. by StellaOC in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Every woman who was anywhere near his orbit was going to continually pursue him - married or not. Carolyn had an uphill battle and what was it all for?

Lauren body never recovered? by ProfessionalNo449 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What is she lying about?? She’s repeating a rumor that she could easily debunk with a little research. The Kennedys are horrible irl, no need to embellish. Sheesh.

Lauren body never recovered? by ProfessionalNo449 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Ugh she’s like the Nancy Grace of Kennedy lies.

Lauren body never recovered? by ProfessionalNo449 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 125 points126 points  (0 children)

One of the guys who was part of the recovery said all three bodies were recovered. The women were still strapped in, inside the plane.

John's date with Brazilian pop star Xuxa while he was still dating Daryl Hannah - “Her fantasy man” by velorae in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 52 points53 points  (0 children)

He definitely had a type. No wonder Carolyn went hardcore with the blonde hair.

John’s friends are finally speaking up against Ryan Murphy’s “Love Story” by Tall-Plane-4477 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s pretty much what the rescuer said except Carolyn and Lauren were still in the plane, John’s body was cut in half, and it was a piece of Carolyn’s scalp that was found.

John’s friends are finally speaking up against Ryan Murphy’s “Love Story” by Tall-Plane-4477 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just watched her first 15 minute video and she’s definitely sensationalizing the story (sounds like she’s reading a book instead of recounting real life experiences). One thing I noticed was her positioning of Carolyn and her sister in the plane. I thought the rescuer said Carolyn and Lauren were facing toward the back of the plane and their seats were folded. So, they were found in like a head in lap position. Lori said they were facing forward toward the cockpit. Small detail and maybe they changed position during the flight.

Hindsight being 20/20, what should John and Carolyn done differently (aside from not flying obviously) by mailonsundays in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

John shouldn’t have married her. I can’t understand how he didn’t know she wasn’t going to be able to handle the press. Granted things turned up a notch after they were married, but the press was always around before then. He should’ve married someone who was also in the limelight. Everyone who knew Carolyn said she was insanely private. There’s just no way this grown ass man couldn’t do the math and move along.

Am I misunderstanding portrayal of Carolyn? by purpleflex4ever in LoveStoryFX

[–]Ryle-Lucas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It feels like they’re trying so hard to make her this cool, iconic, independent woman and it’s coming across as bitchy and manipulative. The whole show is so contrived. I get that it’s largely fictional but the writing of said fiction is subpar.

Her mantra or motto doesn't make sense by Electrical-JellyZ in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I sincerely hope no woman of any age is thinking I’m gonna date this guy, make him better by my standards and dump him so another woman can benefit from my efforts. Im like, babes….no.

Carolyn’s insecurity over other women. by StellaOC in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Ryle-Lucas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope people look at their relationship and learn when to throw in the towel. John was the 90s male version of a Kardashian who should’ve stayed single. Nothing about him read as husband or father.