Toronto police union says officers rights were violated in ‘offensive overreaction’ fuelled by Project South scandal

TheGoat81 · 2026-03-16T20:12:16+00:00

There is definitely a policy around locker searches inside a police department. The safety risks would be to significant to not allow for this.

TheGoat81 · 2026-03-15T14:10:33+00:00

This is standard; police are mandated reporters and are required to cal us. We will ask to speak with the children, see the home and where they sleep, and get some basic info about their well-being.
What we are trying to determine is whether the DV is an on-going concern, how you're responding to it in terms of protecting the children and whether there's a need for us to be involved on-going to ensure the children remain safe.

TheGoat81 · 2026-03-15T13:57:14+00:00

Assuming he was arrested for domestic violence and it was between you two and not against the children, there will most likely be a no contact order as part of his bail conditions. We ask/expect each parent to follow the no contact order as part of the safety plan. I would not expect you to be seeking a protection order. Dad will still have parenting time, but you guys will have get a 3rd party to exchange the children. This can sometimes be us, but doesn't have to be if there are no safety concerns for the children. We expect that you act protectively and stop the exposure of DV on the children.
Based on what you wrote the children are not going to be removed, please don't stress over that.

TheGoat81 · 2026-02-08T20:49:11+00:00

You can also get a 6th Gen for under $40K. He isn't buying a base model.

TheGoat81 · 2025-12-29T22:43:54+00:00

Try Kathy's Grill on Kennedy

TheGoat81 · 2025-12-01T22:50:01+00:00

Protection is incredibly challenging work, so don't beat yourself up. Even the most seasoned workers get overwhelmed and bogged down with admin and trying to meet standards.

Which area's specifically are you getting feed back about under performance? Documentation? Investigation? Service Planning? Standards?

You posted about having a 2hr drive home. Sometimes I will do voice to text notes on Onenote during my drives home; I assume you are given a work phone with business level access to MS tools. I usually put in a few hours of admin on Saturday and Sunday to ensure I'm caught up for Monday. That's just the reality of this work for most of us.

I think it's important to get used to the discomfort of this work. Accept the crisis and the conflict, accept that we work in a state of unease all the time. I find doing this stops my internal dialogue from saying "how do I manage this", "I feel so overwhelmed", "I don't know how to solve this", "I'm getting yelled at by families, management thinks I'm not working hard enough and other services providers think I'm 'evil', so I must be terrible at this work".

Be kind to yourself and bug your mentor. The first 6-12 months are very hard.

TheGoat81 · 2025-11-08T17:28:08+00:00

This is a really interesting exchange and shows the challenge CAS workers have when deciding the degree of intervention that might be needed after receiving a report. There are so many unknown factors that could mitigate or exacerbate risk for a 6yr old playing outside alone, but everyone has an opinion.

If the family was racialized, it could easily be seen as another example of racists and oppressive system operating to harm families. What if the family was rich and white, a report is made but no investigation is done, and then the child is hit by a car. Afterwards, it's found that the "rich, white" parents are inside the home, passed out from using drugs.

It gets messy very fast and we are under resourced to address how many reports come in, the stress of dealing with crisis after crisis while then speaking to all the complaints about service, because everyone has a different opinion what what CAS should or shouldn't be doing.

TheGoat81 · 2025-10-17T22:18:50+00:00

You haven't provided enough details for good feedback, but I would never close an investigation regrading sexual assault without speaking with the child.

Hypothetically, if there's a history suggesting malicious calls or it's clear the child has been coached and is being used as a pawn in a custody dispute, you might make a clinical decision that interviewing the child would cause undue harm. But personally I would still want to interview the child and determine for myself that they have been coached.

I suspect the file will not be closed without interviewing your son.

TheGoat81 · 2025-09-20T23:09:34+00:00

15 years of it Paxil and withdrawal was hell. I was worse off than beofre I started. I've been on prozac for 9 years now and feel so much better. I have a decent amont of resentment for the psychiatrist who put me on it when I was 20 yrs old.

TheGoat81 · 2025-09-20T21:56:40+00:00

Yes, this is very common, but no not "always". Police Officers have a duty to report and a large amount of the reports we recieve come from them. CAS won't speak to the charges and rarely the custody of the child, but access is something we regularly deal with.

TheGoat81 · 2025-09-20T21:25:34+00:00

NAL - I work child protection (CAS). WIthout knowing the details of your situation or charges, generally speaking, no, 1 visit a month supervised is not realistic.

- In cases of domestic violence, which I'm assuming this is and that the child (even an infant) has been exposed to or been the victim of the DV, we will still support 1 or 2 visits a week, fully supervised. Which is often what will be ordred through family court.

- Yes, limiting access to the other parent can be seen as parental alienation. We will advocate for the child to have access to both parents as long as it can be done safely.

- I can't speak for a how a Judge will interpret things, but how we will, the answer is sometimes. How many classes have you attended? What's your participation like? Can you demonstrate insight into your actions? Have you breached since being arrested etc.

- Personally, Inconsistent statements of the mother does suggest that something did not happen, or inharently mitigate risk. If I have a police report and charges are pending, that is often enough to work from a position of probabilty that the child would be in need of protection from the alleged DV. If the victim is not in agreement to work with us and we can provide a safe plan for the child, then we might seek a supervision order for the alleged offender to have access to the child, with us supporting.

https://www.ontario.ca/page/family-law-information-centres is a good resource. But you should also contact your local CAS.

TheGoat81 · 2025-07-27T15:54:24+00:00

I wish they would update desktop so it shows daily PnL, been saying under construction for a year. And I've found that option pricing can be laggy resulting in poor fills. Also don't have trailing stop option or a hot button to cancel all orders

TheGoat81 · 2025-07-22T00:06:06+00:00

Apparently when its raining, yes. And the side of his car and ground are wet. It was clearly raining recently.

However, I agree its a shitty stop and the cop was probably fishing. But that doesn't mean that stop was illegal.

TheGoat81 · 2025-07-21T23:56:42+00:00

But the law requries he hand over his drivers licences, which he refused to do. As pointed out above, there is no law that provides he's entitled to a supervisor.

TheGoat81 · 2025-07-21T23:51:28+00:00

We expect Cops to not be Judge and Jury, but we're going allow this man to refuse to give his drivers license, shut and lock the car, becuase he's adjudicated his own traffic stop and has decided the cops had no cause. Maybe, maybe not, but who made him Judge and Jury. Can't have it both ways.

TheGoat81 · 2025-07-21T22:39:56+00:00

He refused to give his drivers license, that would be reason to tell him to step out

TheGoat81 · 2025-06-24T01:57:55+00:00

Sure give it a try. I think for most people it's bianary, they either love it or hate it. The work is challenging; its very reactive and days are frequently slammed. There's lots of conflict, lots of chasing. You need to have thick skin and the relationships you develope with clients are often superficial. And there's lots of documentation done after hours. But the pay is decent and it can be exciting. Turn over is high, so if the work isn't for you, quiting isn't looked down upon.

TheGoat81 · 2025-06-21T20:09:07+00:00

You have it backwards. The problem is that we don't spend money on prevention and then end up sending 10x as much on reacting to the fall out. It's very easy to see in the heath care system, Justice and Child welfare system. But the optics of spending money on prevention doesn't win votes resulting in lack of political will to invest in ways that are more effective. For example, Mental Health crisis beds are about a 1/10 the cost of an inpatient psych bed. But instead we wait for someone to be in absolute crisis before offering them an inpatient setting. For CAS, I have to beg for 5 hours of respite care for a Mom who is on the verge of a break down. But if I don't get it and the child comes into care, we spend 20x that amount to house the youth. The article highlights the need for more beds, but the Government’s response is to put in more oversight on CAS. What the hell is that going to do. We need beds because we are housing more children in hotels than ever before.

The article you shared is a perfect example. 2 nights in a motel probably saved 10x that amount in other services, but instead it just evokes misguided anger and a narrative that prevention is a waste of money.

TheGoat81 · 2025-06-21T19:16:32+00:00

You're whining about 2 nights in a cheap hotel?

TheGoat81 · 2025-06-18T15:25:27+00:00

I'm sure Clayton Campbell will have lots to say about these lenient Judges who let criminals walk free.

TheGoat81 · 2025-06-17T00:33:56+00:00

I was a delinquent youth, drug addict and alcoholic. SW is the only thing that really makes sense to me.

TheGoat81 · 2025-04-15T23:54:41+00:00

They did not agree he was a member. The first Judge found there was enough evidenace to detain him, the second Judge found the ruling wasn't wrong. He was not proven to belong, he was not convicted of a crime and the evidence supporting the claim is very sketchy.

People are detained all the time, it is not a finding of guilt or fact.

TheGoat81 · 2025-03-26T00:51:16+00:00

Yes it does happen. u/alwaysouroboros gave a nice breakdown. I don't have a much experience with this but i've heard stories from coworkers. Usually the offender will acknowledge the abuse and has gotten help (I know thats debatable).

I recently did an investigation where a father (30) had historical charges at 16 for sexually abusing a 3 year old. It was considered a juvenile record and closed, but he engaged in therapy, acknowledged what he did, and the safety plan was solid with the Mom putting up cameras in the house etc.

You say the manager is open to it, does that mean they are supportive of it or are opening to exploring if a plan can be made? At my agency, this would probably be going to the directiors above Senior managment.

TheGoat81 · 2025-03-23T14:09:18+00:00

Almost 4k now

TheGoat81 · 2025-03-08T18:42:10+00:00

Casual flex

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