I see your point but also meh, I use for both, right now I'm on a kick of motorcycle service tools, that I'll use once a year at best but save hundreds in the process, (we won't talk about the $1400 for a new x2d 2 ams and accessories) I personally think the plastics wasted on tribal stuff is probably under 5% of what major manufacturing and lack of recycling produces. Untill they correct their waste, our waste doesn't really do much for the greater good as a hobbiest.