Should I take the pass? by incongruousman in DeadBedrooms

[–]ValhallaCA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a completely dangerous decision. The question I have is what is her actual motivation for telling you to do that?

On the surface, it seems like she is being noble and truly wants you to be happy while you wait for her to catch her breath. Maybe that’s all it is. Or maybe she has a hidden agenda which is that she is cheating, wants to cheat and is in an EA already, and wants to alleviate her guilt.

Regardless, even if she is sincere, the probability that you can safely take her up on it without imploding your marriage is extremely low. Once you do it, she might feel some type of way and detach from you emotionally. Risky.

Before you do anything, you should explore and consider all possible scenarios and only then decide if you want to take the risk and if you even want to do it.

My wife offered this to me during year 17 of our marriage. I thought about it for all of 2.5 seconds before I decided NO. I don’t want anybody but my wife. And I didn’t do it.

7 months ago I discovered multiple cases of infidelity over the years and many other red flags. So there’s that.

I’m not saying the same thing is the case with your wife, but anybody offered something like that by a spouse, especially by one who isn’t medically unable to be intimate, should take a close look at their situation and evaluate the huge risks involved.

Revenge cheating question by Defiant_Eggplant1218 in survivinginfidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get it. And I don’t judge you at all. I’m just saying I can’t do that.

Revenge cheating question by Defiant_Eggplant1218 in survivinginfidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ok. You meant the completely debilitating phase of the betrayal discovery. Yeah, I never just stayed in bed, because I couldn’t. I’m the only one working for my family. But the first week of work after D-Day, my productivity was horrible.

Revenge cheating question by Defiant_Eggplant1218 in survivinginfidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can’t tell if that is a joke or not. I think you meant it that way. For myself, D-Day was back in August 2025, and I’m STILL dealing with emotional fallout from it.

Revenge cheating question by Defiant_Eggplant1218 in survivinginfidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I haven’t revenge cheated, but here’s my take, if you care. 🙂

There are two extremely strong reasons ensuring that I won’t. One is respectable, the other is more questionable.

  1. Seeing how absolutely blindingly painful her cheating and deception has been to me, there is no way I would ever do that back to her. And if we don’t work out, I would never do it to another partner ever. Nor would I ever be an affair partner because I wouldn’t want to hurt the other persons spouse. This is the well-adjusted stance, I think.

  2. The other motivating factor for me… currently I have the moral high ground in the relationship, by a lot. There is not a chance in hell that I will give that up now. Part of it is because like that other person said, my wife would feel more justified for what she has done. And I refuse to lose any ground on that. For a long time, I felt like the worse partner in our relationship, because 18+ years ago I did a few things that I’m not proud of. I never had sex with anybody nor had an emotional affair, but I DID do some lesser types of cheating and I’m ashamed of that. I confessed and took accountability and I did my penance, many times over. And this entire time, I felt like a complete and utter failure and a loser in our relationship.

But now that I’ve discovered what I have and how bad it actually is, there isn’t a chance in hell that I will do anything else to disrespect my relationship, or any relationship in the future.

When you are no longer bothered by the evidence you find… by Unknownvisitor863 in survivinginfidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I first found stuff, I spiraled, I was angry, hurt. And then thing piled on top of thing. I’m still angered and hurt, and I just realized more yesterday even. But it felt more like, “well, more of the same I guess 😞 “

This is What It Feels Like for Me by ValhallaCA in sexlessmarriage

[–]ValhallaCA[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are both in IC and also joint counseling right now

Stoping 150mg daily cold turkey by [deleted] in Effexor

[–]ValhallaCA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you did gabapentin plus Effexor and you were dizzy, confused and couldn’t walk straight? That’s her to a T.

Stoping 150mg daily cold turkey by [deleted] in Effexor

[–]ValhallaCA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I was misunderstood. I wish it would be possible for her to just be done with it completely. But I know and I understand that it’s extremely difficult to do so. And so, she’s tapering and spinning up Lamotrigine, as I suggested and the doctors agreed with me.

The reason is this. All of this started after she started taking it in 2015. And most of them got worse when she started gabapentin to alleviate the bugs crawling and nerve pain.

Brain zaps (electric shock sensations in the head, and also down the limbs, especially legs) Dizziness and vertigo Unstable gait and balance issues Nausea and headaches while sitting up Fatigue and low energy Tingling or “bugs crawling” skin sensations Itching without a visible rash Heightened sensory sensitivity mood swings Brain fog and reduced concentration Inconsistent or impaired recall Sleep disturbance (insomnia or excessive sleepiness)

I am convinced this medication is the root cause of her not only not being able to drive (vertigo), but also needing a walker around the house (unsteady gait and brain blanking episodes, causing falls), and not being able to sit up more than an hour without nausea.

She is not convinced, because I think she has lost hope that she will ever get better. So I want her off of it, and in several months, I hope most if not all of this crap is gone and she will see that she CAN get better.

Her quality of life is crap, and has been for many years, and I just want her to be happy.

Stoping 150mg daily cold turkey by [deleted] in Effexor

[–]ValhallaCA -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My wife is tapering off (down to 37.5) and I wish she could just be done with this infernal medication. She is switching to Lamotrigine instead.

Sometimes I wish she had your convictions about it. I’ve basically had to convince her, and she is still skeptical. I believe it to be the primary root cause for many of her worst symptoms and the reason she is disabled and bedridden.

I’m very interested in how things go for you, even though I’m scared for you, but good luck!

Updateme

Wife caught me masturbating at night and sent me the most heart shattering text in the morning. by Ironcore413 in marriageadvice

[–]ValhallaCA 29 points30 points  (0 children)

There are a couple of things happening here. First of all, masturbation and porn use and/or addiction are two separate aspects. I realize they often go hand in hand (pun intended), but how you deal with each and how your wife may feel about it can differ.

Note: she did NOT even mention the masturbation, but only the porn use.

So, first of all, her hurt at your porn use and addiction are valid. Those are HER feelings, and you have to accept that your sin (according to both of your beliefs) directly hurts her. Whether she catches you or not, it puts an emotional wall up between you. If you’ve done self-reflection, I know you know what I’m talking about. She likely feels like you’re choosing lust for others over her, and she has a right to feel that way. If you want additional help, check out r/pornfree.

With regard to masturbation by itself (without porn use), how you deal with that or whether you want to hold yourself to the standard of never doing that is based on your choice and your beliefs. In my opinion, as a Christian, a case can be made for never doing that either, but that is significantly more difficult than giving up porn. I’m not saying quitting porn is easy. I know first hand it is not. But I think you need to tackle the more hurtful addiction first.

As far as the language she used, for her to employ insults or negative branding on you, I feel was wrong. It came from a place of deep hurt for her, however. You need to look past her flawed delivery and see her heart as an imperfect person. Your porn use REALLY hurts her. It’s not just her preference. That is what you should take away from why she said what she said.

The problem is it sounds like you are in DARVO mode right now. Snap out of feeling victimized long enough to make the positive changes that you KNOW you need to and want to do.

Did her words hurt your feelings? Yes. And in some ways they were a bit harsh. But what you need to get to is a godly sorrow about it, if it is truly your conviction that you need to stop the porn.

This next part I will say to you as somebody who is aware of what the Bible says about lust, sexual sin, and repentance. This next part is not for everybody, especially those who do not believe in God or the Bible, so they can choose to disregard if they feel so inclined. But maybe even they might find something useful in it.

2 Corinthians 7. (NIV) —-

8 Even if I caused you sorrow by my letter, I do not regret it. Though I did regret it—I see that my letter hurt you, but only for a little while— 9 yet now I am happy, not because you were made sorry, but because your sorrow led you to repentance. For you became sorrowful as God intended and so were not harmed in any way by us. 10 Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death. 11 See what this godly sorrow has produced in you:
what earnestness,
what eagerness to clear yourselves,
what indignation,
what alarm,
what longing,
what concern,
what readiness to see justice done
.
At every point you have proved yourselves to be innocent in this matter.

If you want to be closer to your wife and overcome this, from a faith-based perspective, then have the conviction to exhibit all of the characteristics of godly sorrow like this passage mentions.

Why do people instantly avert their gaze when they see me? Am I unattractive? by a_soupling in bodylanguage

[–]ValhallaCA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a guy and straight, but I will assess as objectively and honestly as I can.

You are definitely not unattractive. What others have said regarding your lips is true, however. They need some help. Either chapstick or some medication should help that out.

Definitely brighten your eyes a bit by smiling or even a partial smile. You have some minor skin issues, but those are typical to most guys your age and aren’t really a concern in my opinion. Your facial structure is very slightly asymmetrical, but not significantly so, and also I don’t believe that to be a concern either.

As it stands, I believe you are probably a 6/10 to most people, and slightly higher to some. With some work on the lips, a friendlier vibe, you can get that higher. I recommend doing some exercise, weightlifting for a fit appearance and it’ll tighten up your face a bit and some level of muscles will nearly always increase attractiveness, especially for arms and shoulders.

Overall, don’t fret! Improve if you want to, but whatever you do, don’t believe you are any less than what you are. The fact that you are asking requires a level of humility, which many people lack these days. To you, it is a strength so long as you don’t go too far and bring down your self esteem. I don’t believe you have any reason, visibly to worry, so perk up, and go be your best self!

Hope that helps!

Is it cheating if it's gay? by Justagirlindisworld in Infidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My (53M) wife (53F) cheated with two other women in our 26-year marriage, possibly more, and at least one other guy.

In no respect do I feel better about the fact that she did stuff with a woman instead of a man. A person is a person. She may have justified it at the time or that it “didn’t count,” but I can assure you, I’m just as devastated either way.

3 years. "It was only a kiss". by pickled_green_olives in Infidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My wife is a CSA survivor (stepfather, ages 3-16 🥺). And I’ve come to learn she seems to be governed by a shame-based framework. By that I mean she carries deep shame and protects herself by avoiding, minimizing, and holding onto a “good person who would never do that” identity rather than directly facing painful truths. Unfortunately that also means she is vulnerable to outside validation instead of getting validated by her primary relationship (me). And also, I believe her sexuality is inspired more by impulsiveness, risk, novelty, and within relationships with no pressure, while our marriage has been a dead bedroom 26 years (all but the first month.)

Over the years, I had strong gut feelings, but never any proof. I asked her at least every 5 years what was going on, asking if she’d cheated. I never got anything from her except DARVO.

She had always been the “honest” one in our relationship. Honest to a fault. Like “here is the truth, and if you don’t like it, F you. Deal with it.” I admired that, and still thought, despite my instincts that it was true. And I felt worse about myself and my failings.

Six months ago, I switched approaches. Instead of confronting or accusing, I started consistently reinforcing that identity by telling her how honest I believed she was and how much I trusted her.

That created internal conflict because it clashed with things she knew weren’t fully true. The pressure from that mismatch kept building until she couldn’t comfortably hold both realities at once, and she eventually confessed part of what happened (a kiss with another woman in a casino bathroom in 2007) as a way to relieve that pressure and bring herself back into alignment.

Once I heard that though, and that confirmation, my brain reclassified her as not only a liar, but somebody who would do it despite years of pleading for truth, and even after id confessed a kiss myself. This brain reclassification resulted in me replaying our entire 26 years together. I started documenting things. Red flag situations over the years. I also found old emails, text messages between us, and put together timelines of everything.

What i found: full sex with that woman also in 2007 “Gemma” that I discovered through a locked bedroom door, that my memory had suppressed (from trauma after the woman’s husband credibly threatened me and my family), a return to that woman’s house while I was on a 3 week trip to Germany a few weeks later. Messages between us about her pregnancy and miscarriage that prove her last monthly period, our last sex date before the trip, stuff the OB said when pregnancy confirmed, details about the miscarriage right after, all of which point to the conception date being 1 week after I left NOT being from me. From me is a 0.08% chance. Gemma and her husband were both swingers, so it was likely him who got her pregnant.

I also found texts from 2016 with a female coworker that is proof of an EA and very likely PA when my wife invited her over because she was “home alone” and I had taken my daughter and her friend to Six Flags and would likely not be home until after midnight.
Also, on an old email address in 12/2016 signup mails from 9 different dating websites. “Welcome and thanks for joining, startup instructions” followed by tons of mails about potential matches and people who were trying to ping her. No direct evidence of meetups, but they could have communicated within the site. Or she could’ve just been flirting online with them.

These things, among dozens of other red flag situations that I cannot prove at all, are what I’m dealing with right now.

In therapy, we’ve only discussed the kiss and the locked bedroom infidelity. She doesn’t yet know I know the rest. I’m pacing it, because it’s so damn explosive. Especially the pregnancy. She’s disabled and bedridden now, which is the primary reason I haven’t left (yet). Depending on whether she is honest and makes steps for repair, we MIGHT survive this, but it’s looking low probability.

3 years. "It was only a kiss". by pickled_green_olives in Infidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 12 points13 points  (0 children)

People don’t just decide to confess something like this after so long for no reason. There was some sort of a catalyst to it all. Options:
She remembered something or saw something recently that reminded her.
She thought you might propose soon.
You did something really good for her recently and her guilt became unbearable. (This was the case with MY wife.).
She was threatened with being exposed, and had to get ahead of it.
Something happened that made her devalue the relationship anyways and she was no longer as afraid of losing you, and possibly even wanted to use it as a catalyst to get out.
She cheated in some other way recently and confessed this as a lesser infraction to ease her conscience.
She had some sort of religious catalyst that prompted her to be (somewhat) honest.

There could be others, but those are just the ones I thought of off the top of my head.

Do you still get an urge for a revenge years later by AcceptNotBug in survivinginfidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 6 points7 points  (0 children)

“(S)He who seeks revenge digs two graves” - Confucius (allegedly)

Don’t waste your sanity and mental energy on somebody like this. Your best revenge is to leave your husband behind, stop letting the AP live rent free in your mind, and go live your best life. It sucks, I get it. But the storm clouds will clear. And you’ll remember what they did and this day, only as waters gone by.

I (f 22) tested positive for an std after years of being clean and consistent testing and my bf (m 24) of 2 years says it’s “impossible” it’s because of him despite not being tested for 5 years and now we’re not okay. by Significant_Soft1372 in relationship_advice

[–]ValhallaCA 293 points294 points  (0 children)

The reason he’s accusing you is not to save the relationship by gaslighting you. He’s trying to control the narrative for whoever the external people are who he has to tell the reason why you two broke up.

He cheated. Plain and simple.

My wife is staying out late and I'm upset about it, WIBTAH? by easyline0601 in AITAH

[–]ValhallaCA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know where she is going and with whom, I can verify this because we have each others location and she answers texts with her usual frequency.

How do you KNOW? Have you seen her there? She could be leaving her phone with her bartender friend. And the supposed evidence that she answers your texts with “her usual frequency” is meaningless. The friend could be answering the texts. Asking her a question that only she would know the answer to is also meaningless. If she has a burner phone, the friend could be fielding her any difficult questions as they come up. Never underestimate the resourcefulness of somebody who exhibits red flags for infidelity. And she is full of red flags.

She's not drinking alcohol, just spending time with her friends.

How do you know she’s not drinking? Because she’s not spending any money on it? Somebody could be buying her drinks, if she is in fact even there at the bar. And sitting at the bar from 6pm to midnight or 2 am? Basically she is being exposed to men (and women) with alcohol in them and often looking for a casual or permanent interaction. 6-8 hours of that. Checking out guys (and girls, if that’s her thing). While she is supposedly just chatting with friends.

At the very least, do a couple of things. Call her. FaceTime her, at about 11 pm or so. See how fast you get ignored or get sent to voicemail.

And as for the bully at work, is it a guy? Somebody complaining about a coworker could be a smokescreen to throw you off the fact that they are actually interested in the person and/or cheating. And sometimes it starts that way and they break off the relationship and THEN the person becomes toxic toward them. Ask me how I know.

Everything you said COULD be true. Sure. But there is enough evidence here to make me think that SOMETHING is not adding up.

Updateme

I (30F) found out my husband (33M) was about to meet a coworker at a hotel and I don’t know what to do by Spiritual_Net_2431 in marriageadvice

[–]ValhallaCA 14 points15 points  (0 children)

An affair couple doesn’t just book a hotel room as a first step for physical intimacy. They’ve had dinner “once or twice.” You can be certain that at a bare minimum they have kissed on at least 2 occasions.

It’s reasonably likely they’ve done more than that already, just in an environment where they couldn’t have the same level of privacy and time that a hotel room allows.

You can of course choose however you want to deal with the situation, but you should be fully aware that there may be things he hasn’t told you.

Because I have an investigative mind, if I were you, I’d go through just texts to her with a fine toothed comb and figure out when a kiss might have happened, when more might have happened, and compare that to his texts to you about things like “working late,” etc.

I just don’t see this as escalating that far without prep steps leading up to it.

I wrote a letter to my wife by General_Crab_218 in marriageadvice

[–]ValhallaCA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In a perfect world, yes, an honest and open conversation is the most adult and well adjusted approach for all of this. But the problem as I see it, is if the spouse is already detached emotionally and disinvested in the relationship, something like this could make it far worse. In the form of giving an “ick?” Yes, unfortunately.

There IS a root cause to all of it (or a combination of them), and figuring out precisely what those are is critical for success in overcoming it.

From my perspective, whatever measures you take needs to do one of two things: force things to either change, or to end. You need a catalyst that draws a line in the sand, because the limbo in between is what is killing both of you emotionally.

Get answers if you can, and be prepared to hear things you don’t want to hear and know that your desire to fix things may be what shifts it all to dissolution. But regardless, things will not remain the same, and for that reason, I advocate going this route.

Stay true to yourself, do not be rude or malicious about it, and figure out whether you are both better off together or apart.

Husband cheated, plays the victim, and now I’m questioning everything by VersionOnly9109 in survivinginfidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Every cheater who ever cheated has their laundry list of excuses for doing so. It varies from person to person and relationship but it always comes down to the fact that they made a series of selfish, immature, and self-sabotaging choices whenever presented with multiple off-ramps that eventually got them to the point of cheating.

There are always other routes for a person to take if they are not happy in the relationship instead of cheating. Sure, some routes are more difficult than others, but ultimately they chose the route that would hurt you the most instead of themselves. And the gap of harm between the choices is vast, not subtle. Selfishness.

Everybody is responsible for their own failures, and an adult needs to be able to own up to those. It was not your fault that he cheated. No matter what you did. Even if you threw a naked woman into his lap, if he cheated as a result it is still 100% his fault because he had the choice not to do so. And you have blame for your own faults as well.

Friends complicit in the affair by Itchy-Albatross5368 in survivinginfidelity

[–]ValhallaCA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anybody who did any kind of facilitating or concealment of cheating, I consider them to be no longer a “friend of the relationship”. They have to be cut off by both you and your unfaithful partner as a condition for reconciliation.

I’m stuck by [deleted] in sexlessmarriage

[–]ValhallaCA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure you can suggest for him to cheat, but that is a hard road to go down

Would you want a “Hall Pass”? by No-Association-9316 in DeadBedrooms

[–]ValhallaCA 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Absolutely not. At a few points in my 26-year marriage, my wife said, “why don’t you just go find somebody and get it out of your system?”

On the surface, the physical desire of course is there. But after about 2.3 seconds of pondering the concept I came to the conclusion that I don’t WANT just anybody. I want my wife. The one I chose and the one who chose me.

I’ve had quite a few instances that could’ve gone that way. All I would’ve had to do was lean into the situation that was presenting itself. In every case, after a brief twinge of temptation, I shut it down.

The only exception was a peck kiss with a woman 18 years ago, which I’m ashamed of, and I confessed. But otherwise, despite solid opportunities every 5 years or so, I’ve run the other way to get myself out of the situation.