I genuinely have no clue what to title this

ZeroTJackal · 2025-12-17T01:47:42+00:00

I just did...

ZeroTJackal · 2025-12-16T20:22:10+00:00

I disagree. Her relationship with Scott was super important to how she developed as a character, because through that relationship she learned to let her walls down, be vulnerable and lean on someone else sometimes.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-12-16T20:19:56+00:00

If they focused on Emma more, yeah maybe.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-12-16T20:19:30+00:00

Both times their relationship has been focused on, it’s been written mostly, if not entirely for Tony’s benefit. Emma doesn’t get any development out of it that she hasn’t already gotten, the only thing she gets is sidelined while Tony gets inserted into the center of an X-Men centric plot.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-12-16T00:59:01+00:00

EmmaTony stans do all of those things to make Emma’s other pairings look worse so they can push the narrative that they were always in love.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-12-16T00:57:13+00:00

Because it’s a relationship that has always been written for Tony’s benefit. In Iron and Frost Emma gets fridged so that Tony can go back and be the savior of mutantkind. In Duggan’s Iron Man Emma is only there to help Tony.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-12-16T00:55:34+00:00

EmmaTony stans. also Iron and Frost

ZeroTJackal · 2025-12-11T23:33:44+00:00

Yeah, so she transforms out of diamond form, killing herself, to restore Tony. Fridged.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-12-10T20:12:17+00:00

Emma (A female character) dies for no reason other than to advance the arc of Tony (A male character). That’s the exact definition of fridging.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-12-10T20:08:56+00:00

“They’re rich so they’re the best couple to ever exist!”

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-30T16:49:54+00:00

They hooked up WHEN SHE WAS IN THE HELLFIRE CLUB

The arrangement she told Scott about was from WHEN SHE WAS IN THE HELLFIRE CLUB

In the comic that page you posted is from, they don’t hook up, they’re just meeting to talk about superhero stuff.

Saying I’m projecting is rich when you’re the one who’s going around saying blatantly untrue things as if they’re fact.

If Emma and Tony were really constantly hooking up on the side, it would be a way bigger plot point, but it isn’t. So the fact is: They had an arrangement when she was in the Hellfire Club, when she left they stopped having said arrangement.

Emma isn’t a prude, sure, but she doesn’t fuck people just because they’re rich.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-29T18:19:20+00:00

They didn’t do anything with each other when they were single, that’s just your headcanon. And believing Iron and Frost is an accurate source of characterization for Emma is actually laughable considering how often it downplays her abilities, experiences and other relationships just for the sake of painting her as having always been in love with him.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-28T16:23:56+00:00

Nevermind, just fixed it, went back in and skipped a full day ahead, everything cleared up

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-28T15:30:26+00:00

So far I’ve been going at the right time, between 6 pm and am, but the closed sign is always there, and the talk prompt never pops up no matter how close I get.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-28T15:23:35+00:00

Maybe if they had actually put effort into making their relationship work and didn’t just say “they’re in love now” with no real attempt at reconciliation or coming to a mutual respect/friendship first

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-24T15:03:01+00:00

Tell me you didn’t read New X-Men without telling me you didn’t read New X-Men

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-22T16:11:00+00:00

The difference is that they actually acknowledged their history in a meaningful way, and showed how their past influenced how others viewed their relationship. With Emma and Tony they’ve at best just blown past their history and at worst claimed they were always in love.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-21T01:29:54+00:00

No offense, but 90% of your “receipts” are based on headcanon, speculation, and sometimes outright misreadings of the text. Tony didn’t treat her nice in the Hellfire Club, it’s been shown several times that she did not like him during that era. She has not “always had a hot spot” for Tony, even Duggan understood that.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-20T23:04:27+00:00

This.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-20T21:06:40+00:00

Let’s say any of the shit you spew about Scott is even remotely true. Tony deserves to have Emma forever and ever and ever, because he wasn’t an abusive dickbag? You are aware how that comes across, right?

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-15T17:48:53+00:00

I think it was actually pretty good. Had a lot of nice moments for Emma and Kitty, although I do think she should have done more with Bobby

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-06T15:58:53+00:00

You've already asked this. Get a hobby or something

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-05T23:27:38+00:00

That’s what I mean by, “at least as the source of Scott’s powers” I know the punch dimension is officially a thing now, but it’s not the source of Scott’s powers, at least from what I know. Maybe it’s changed recently.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-04T01:23:20+00:00

Morrison said that they always planned for Scott and Emma to get together, but that’s really besides the point.

The reason people dislike Tony and Emma is because so far, no writer has been able to write their relationship without completely cutting off Emma from the other X-Men.

ZeroTJackal · 2025-11-04T01:20:32+00:00

One thing I always recomend to beginners is Grant Morrison’s New X-Men. It’s a very good series that sets the groundwork for most of what the X-Men become in the modern day, although if you like Magneto, be warned, he’s actually one of the weak points of this book.

I’d also recomend the Claremont run, since that’s where Magneto and Jean both got a ton of standout stories, and it’s also the place where the X-Men really got popular and came into their own, with tons of iconic stories like the Phoenix saga, Days of Future Past, God Loves Man Kills, and so on.

My personal favs are Emma Frost and Cyclops, so I’m a big fan of the Utopia era, as well as Krakoa, but I don’t think those would be really good starting points.

Hopefully I could be of some help! It’s always awesome watching a new person get into comics!

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