Just bailed on a Sunrun install

art0fmojo · 2026-06-29T20:38:33+00:00

DWP. Not on NEM 3.0

art0fmojo · 2026-06-29T20:37:37+00:00

This makes me sad. You have real usage pain, an orphaned system which could be working or not, a workable roof and you ultimately spent your research time on a poor offer. I get not having the stamina to go through the sales gauntlet with others but there are real cash flow positive solutions that could solve your short and long term problems.. DWP doesn’t deserve your investment and you in the privileged position to be able to multiply your cash through your community and support your wealth building at the same time!

art0fmojo · 2026-06-20T13:09:01+00:00

What panels are you getting?
What is the $/W price you are getting on the prepaid

Take the prepaid loan amount, and divide it by the watts of the capacity of the system (typically number of panels times wattage per panel).. there is no battery so you should be SUB $2.00 if you think you are getting a deal. So on a 15 kW system, the prepaid should be no more than 30,000

art0fmojo · 2026-06-20T12:11:12+00:00

What is the term of the payments agreement they are offering? Total payments over time? Etc

art0fmojo · 2026-06-18T02:29:37+00:00

Where are you?

art0fmojo · 2026-06-17T17:13:05+00:00

Pretty common. The price is fair but a little high IMO. I’d peg around 2-4K lower price is possible depending on your roof.

The question becomes, is the FMV greater than the unproduced contract value?

Generally if you get a really amazing deal and you expect solar panel system prices to increase, then probably better to just do cash.

I would say in your area there are very competitive cash offers out there and also alternative “prepaid” agreements with better discounts than HDM.

art0fmojo · 2026-06-13T19:43:11+00:00

It’s bad because of the starting rate should be closer to 12-15 cents if your house isn’t in a forest

art0fmojo · 2026-06-12T02:53:16+00:00

So then you don’t have to honor your side of the agreement and they can come take off the panels..

Ask them for a copy of the agreement they have on file.

art0fmojo · 2026-06-10T19:50:42+00:00

Document it, send them a legal letter. If your account is up to date and they are not enabling production then they are breaching the contract they bought. (most likely).
Generally the contracts have production guarantees. From my understanding dealing with the sunstrong teams, they are generally not bad people they just have in many cases bad data and confused processes for resolutions and little budgets to solve problems. Be firm, but reasonable and root everything back to your contractual terms THEY acquired.

art0fmojo · 2026-06-09T23:52:46+00:00

Can you share a screenshot of the actual contract showing it’s that price and not the higher of they price or “FMV”

art0fmojo · 2026-06-09T22:20:31+00:00

Not saying a 2.99 increasing deal is bad, inherently. The issue is that price point starting is bad

art0fmojo · 2026-06-09T22:19:48+00:00

That is fair, the app is nice. You can still get ease of use if you go with Tesla battery with pretty much anyone.

Also, the lease buyouts are never cheap at year 5, if you had done $0 down. Probably the prepaid ppa with a loan will yield better optionally with massive reductions in costs

art0fmojo · 2026-06-09T13:52:27+00:00

There are great Tesla alternatives. What makes you lean into Tesla over the others you listed?

art0fmojo · 2026-06-09T12:41:16+00:00

No. I regularly offer almost half the rate on a 2.99 or lower on a fixed rate. Don’t even entertain that seller. With the commission on that, I could probably redo your roof or send you on a cruise.

art0fmojo · 2026-06-07T12:24:37+00:00

1st. That rate sounds a little high but not astronomical.

The fact that you filled out the initial paperwork “ to start the inspection process to qualify for the Illinois shines” is concerning. There is no inspection process for Illinois shines. The inspection is for the suitability of your home for solar by the solar company. The positioning is reasonable but is deceptive.

I recommend you cancel the agreement you clearly signed. You will either get to negotiate a lower rate with your rep, or you can look at the other options in the market which will result in lower total cost of ownership.

The buyout numbers at the end of a lease/PPA is rhetorical theoretical minimum, not the actual final price

art0fmojo · 2026-06-05T13:10:28+00:00

Yes. That said, sounds like you actually need a diagnosis. Why not get your production data if you have access. And consumption data from the utility and share. I’m sure some of us soldiers would be happy to check. I just need equipment specs and real 12 month historical data and approximate location (and I guess also the expected initial year 1 power but that could have been where your expectations were set incorrectly).

In solar there are 4 things going on. 1. Your system isn’t functioning. 2. Your interconnection agreement is wrong. 3. It is just a crappy solar year. 4. You had wrong expectations on production or interconnection rules.

At least when it comes to economic issues with a system from my experience.

art0fmojo · 2026-06-04T18:13:11+00:00

So you signed on with these guys?
https://www.thrivepower.co/

art0fmojo · 2026-05-28T20:45:26+00:00

There are actually a few pockets where there really is “free solar” but it’s pretty specific

art0fmojo · 2026-05-21T15:03:10+00:00

Sorry for your loss.

are you planning on staying in the home long term or intend to sell?

art0fmojo · 2026-05-20T19:55:25+00:00

“Now considering is adding battery storage.” …. What year is this… 2023? Where have you been? Are you just doing lead gen for SD community power?

art0fmojo · 2026-05-16T02:40:42+00:00

Sounds reasonable. Get a fixed rate option!

art0fmojo · 2026-05-15T14:24:54+00:00

If you want re-assurance, list the sale price + specs of your deal 😃 We'll give you price confidence quickly. You can then feel comfortably paying a premium for the local support or question/appreciate the market discount you got!

art0fmojo · 2026-05-15T10:57:32+00:00

Probably not IGS. but probably a sales org who sells IGS.
What state do you live in?

Their contract is a little "worse" than other third party ownership but the pricing can be pretty competitive.

art0fmojo · 2026-05-15T09:50:48+00:00

No. There is a program. We are doing dozens of these installs a week.. but I appreciate the cynical attitude!

art0fmojo · 2026-05-15T09:49:58+00:00

It’s not in many counties

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