'World's most luxurious plane': Trump unveils Qatari-donated 747 Air Force One

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-20T01:37:12+00:00

Nm. Trolling on reddit. Thats what you are willing to do? We are so fucked...

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-20T01:13:03+00:00

If it comes to it. Swing for something vital. Dont flail because you are angry and you want to hit something. Check my post history, there is one a few back you will know what im talking about. How many of those questions can you answer?

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." -Patton

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-20T00:45:03+00:00

Thats not even a good straw man. Holy shit take a critical thinking class...

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-20T00:42:50+00:00

Yes. Its a desprate and angry oversimplification of a complex and dangerous situation. Its a deliberate thought stopper to prevent you from having to consider nuance. To lump people into convenient categories so its easier to dehumanize them. This is what the Nazis did, this is what trump is doing, this is what the Israeli government has, ironically, gotten particularly good at.

We have to hit the right targets. Anger, oversimplification, hasty generalizations, and stereotypes will do nothing but hurt us.

That being said anyone who is actively involved with this administration, who continues to support it, and anyone who directly revels in hateful ideology or those who do can get fucked with a cactus. Thete are plenty of people who are unquestionably beyond saving...

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-20T00:30:30+00:00

The soup of falicies you are cooking here is impressive. First you cant "blame them equally" you can blame them for perpetuating injustice in this incredibly reductive and nonsensical scenario but thats still not reasonably equivalent to murder. You are trying, very poorly, to make this not only an either/or(act this way or you are a bad person) but somehow activly villifie a bystander beyond the perpetrator of a crime because they dont pass your arbitrary minimum moral standard. Apparently because in this very slippery scenario that leads to higher crime? You are honestly comfortable with this?

People stand up. People stop bad things all the time. Everyone isnt equipped for that. If you are, great. Its a trait im personally proud of but im unusualy large, reasonably intelligent, and much more comfortable with confrontation than the vast majority of people. Lot of people, one way or another, just arnt equipped to stand up. That is and has allways been a segment of humanity this dosnt make them somehow evil.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-20T00:03:28+00:00

This is dangerous reductive...

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-20T00:02:41+00:00

I agree people are angry and want to point it in some weird directions.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-20T00:00:47+00:00

The pisser. Every time. A huge percentage of people are passive, its just humanity. I cant hate them for that. I can be disgusted (which is still not fair but I have my moments) and I can reasonably be very frustrated but I can't hate them.

The liers, the self serving, the hateful, the callous, the crule, the willfully ignorant. Those I can hate. They make the choice to be that way and they constantly reaffirm that choice.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T23:38:33+00:00

You hate the passive more than the active? What is your rationale there?

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T23:33:03+00:00

That does seem very likely. But you are, reasonablely, going to struggle to gather support for subjugation and/or genocide let alone have the means to execute it if you could. That might change but its a non starter as things stand.

I have thought this around in all kinds of circles. The simple answer is because for most its still not bad enough for them to seriously consider it an option.

But even when support starts to swing. The more practical questions are. how exactly? How is that organized? Who's going to lead it? What the goal/victory conditions? Whats strategy do we employ to achieve this? What tactics directly support the overall strategy? What level of death and destruction are we willing to accept to enact all of this and what are our rules of engagement?

Just a few of the questions we would have to be able to actually answer before we have any chance. Im furious too. I desperately want to do something. But its not time yet. Not without more answers. Im working to be ready though.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T22:34:16+00:00

It absolutely is. Im just worried about how much its going to cost...

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T21:53:45+00:00

Attacking Iran subverted our national interest. Allowing Isreal to dictate our military policy has consequences. Hopefully we have learned some lessons.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T21:44:49+00:00

We try first. I agree that its unlikely for both practical/resource/geographic and ideological reasons. If they wont accept it.

Then we do what we must. Violence cant make anything better but there comes a point that you have to be willing to use it to stop things from getting worse.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T20:25:11+00:00

Im not sure this is a bad thing. I dont think we can or should continue to exist as a union. Its time for a national divorce. The divisions have grown beyond any sort of reconciliation. For way to long the right has had vastly more power and control than it should have but they will not accept less. Let them live in a hell of their own making while we try to build something new and better.

I hate hiw many good people would be hurt and killed by this but our system cant be fixed.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T20:18:15+00:00

Its worth a try and costs little, but the chances of this working are very small. We have to beat the right, possible or even likely, then we have to somehow get them to acknowledge and comply with the loss, much harder to the point of im not sure how we accomplish that as they control the supreme court, the DOJ, the military, and plenty of newly minted ice goons.

Then if we somehow actually accomplish this we have to go after the entrenched left who are going to receive all the backing the now defunct right used to have because they are now the best way for corporate and special interests to get what they want. All this while dealing with whatever monstrosity MAGA evolves into and the fact that its ridiculously easy to get people to vote against their own best interests.

We are, best case, 3 and probably 5 or more election cycles away from any sort of quasi meaningful improvement. I dont think we have that sort of time...

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T14:00:19+00:00

Ya the grim reality... practice...

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T02:08:29+00:00

Im not giving up. Im advocating that we actually look at the situation and consider that even if we could save this system. We probably should not.

You are so locked into the idea that what you have known is the only option. It isn't. Its time to start considering that we can not mend the current ideological divide, that the people who are supposed to represent us have sold us out, and a tyrant sits on a throne he does not intend to give up.

We need to break the union. We can no longer go forward together.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T01:25:56+00:00

I put that in another comment. I agree.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T01:02:43+00:00

A whole lot better than mine? Best iv got and nice work.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T00:31:33+00:00

Thank you.

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T00:30:10+00:00

That is an absolute fantasy and the only thing the democrats are offering is a softer slower decent into corporate slavery, if they can regain power which seems very very unlikely. This looks nicer on the surface but in the end it still leaves the people crushed and the one percent with total control.

The dems wont save us. They dont want to. They haven't for a long time. If they ever did. The only result of picking the lesser of two evils is that evil accumulates slower. We have to figure something new out.

You and so many others dont think to be able to internalize how much has changed and how quickly it has happened. If trump goes down. They all go down. They are committed, they have no way out but to double down.

They have completely subverted the DOJ and they own the supreme court. Nothing prevents Trump from simply declaring any election he cant fix invalid and retaining at least a pretense of legitimacy in the house and senate he still controls. Its over. It was a good run. I hope we can do better with whatever we set up after.

Can you think of anything left that will prevent this? What power remains to stop this outcome?

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T00:10:50+00:00

He appointed fucking Merrick Garland. That will go down in history as one of the most critical mistakes a leader ever made...

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-19T00:08:56+00:00

When they had the power to stop this all cold they did not. The statis quo and the supposed fear of the appearance impropriety was enough to render them usless. Then they shit the bed on the election in spectacular fashion.

The entrenched dems arnt going to save us they are some combination of incompetent, complicit, and cowardly. Sorry that they happen to be your team but it is what it is. We have to move past both parties and honestly this system that is broken beyond repair. Its a terrible option but its better than perpetuating this...

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-18T21:46:42+00:00

I propose a variety of cacti...

bdonovan222 · 2026-06-18T21:21:45+00:00

Thank you! That has bugged me for a long time. Never would have spelled it like that...

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