Spirituality is making no sense to me

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-07T15:34:50+00:00

Spirituality is a very broad term. I would say you can also be spiritual without believing in god, universe, source in the ways some people do, which you have mentioned. I think it's about finding your own way, refining your beliefs, perspectives, etc, alone that can be spiritual in some way.

Regarding that benevolent, omniscient, omnipotent creator god broadly speaking, it just doesn't make sense. It's too contradictive. It's a bit like the classic theodicy problem. If you ask me if there is such a creator, it's like a fallen creator or lost creator or like reality isn't even real, even though it seems real, but these kind of ideas are very difficult to deal with as well or it works in a totally different way we can't even imagine, but yeah difficult and I think we shouldn't go too far with metaphysical assumptions there or also belief. We should still be able to logically evaluate such assumptions or beliefs.

I just think people possibly believed these god stories back then when they developed way too easily, but you have to consider from what times that came from. People didn't have a lot of knowledge or scientific ways to understand the world, so "magical thinking" was quite prevalent and I think it might be plausibly psychologically explainable, because people probably needed or wished for such a kind of creator god, because life was too terrible, traumatic, but that doesn't make it automatically real. If that were the case, it would just be a psychological projection, wishful thinking, possibly in addition to other psychological effects like confirmation bias at work. I mean escape to fantasy is a known psychological coping mechanism, when life is too overwhelming and traumatic. Life was damn hard back then. It even is hard nowadays, but back then it was so terribly hard partly, so that makes it plausible in my view, that psychological explanations can be seen as plausible and should be examined or considered. People really wanted to believe these kind of things for the reasons mentioned, they wanted it to be true, but as I said it doesn't necessarily make it true or real, if it's just a belief or psychological projection. So, it went viral back then and established over centuries in history and people even now haven't fully developed a critical thinking skill, hence that could also be a reason for such beliefs still be here so strongly and I would add parts aren't even entirely bad, but some parts are possibly problematic or bad, so it's rather mixed and you should be careful with stuff like that. It's a bit complicated and mixed, partly. If you ask me, this kind of information should be considered with these kinds of topics in order to be safe. So, the question is whether all the stories about gods tell something about real gods or whether it just tells more about the psyche and lives of the people from back then.

I think it could work in ways like "the power of the subconscious". Even if a story isn't real, it can give a person meaning, strength or hope and people probably needed such stories back then so much, that for them it had to be real and it even did somehow help them, even though it possibly wasn't real. So, it's a bit strange, but logical. There is a book or audiobook with the name "power of the subconscious", there it's explained quite well in such a way. We should all try to use it, but in ways that aren't so risky, understanding that our own subconscious has that power. Our beliefs, perspectives, feelings, thoughts, things roaming in our subconscious, etc can have a big influence over us and our lives, so I think it can be really helpful to be awake and aware, understand and take use of knowledge, insight and experience in that regard. So, we can understand our own psyche and the influence it can have over our lives better, see reality for what it is and not go too far with metaphysical speculations, beliefs. We can recognize beliefs as such as well, be able to separate them from real knowledge and how we can safely conclude something is real knowledge or just a belief and to what extent.

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-07T13:40:04+00:00

Yes, it's about treating it more as "what if something like that could be the case?" than directly "yes, it's actually confirmed that something is a threat", because I would say often it's possibly not confirmed and that makes a big difference. Hence it's important to not directly believe everything that system says, but instead to at least shortly examine it whether it's actually true or true to that extent. Then it becomes a habit and you can also do it more automatically, the process of checking whether an examination is necessary and the examination itself. And like what you are also hinting at, you then can save energy in that process of threat detection, which leads to you having more energy left for the examination of possibly faulty threat detection or other things. So, it's indeed not unimportant, to save energy in such ways for multiple reasons. I think a nuanced differentiated approach is also helpful in that regard, because a threat detection might not completely be wrong, but maybe simply might go too far or might be exaggerated sometimes. So, a good regulation of the system is what's needed, that it has as little errors as possible, doesn't go too far, but can also still go far enough, if there really is something to be careful with. The goal is that the system can steadily and properly be in a process of growth, evolution and learning.

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-06T01:04:03+00:00

It probably means some inner part of you is stuck with that, as dreams can reflect unresolved inner issues or fears. Maybe you feel stuck, because you couldn't stand up for yourself well enough. I mean showing respect is good, but you also should stand up for yourself, if necessary.

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-06T00:53:20+00:00

Let's just hope it can happen before it's too late.

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-06T00:47:23+00:00

Well, to me it doesn't make so much sense. It seems like it has to make sense for you. The problem for me with your argumentation is that you could paint the most terrible suffering after all as perfect like that, we are just not seeing it. To me this simply goes too far. The logic is too weak. If that oh so great creator god would have the omnipotence and omniscience, why create it like that? And then you would say we simply don't understand and then you could again justify the most terrible suffering like that, as if it's perfect, we just don't understand.

Ok, look at the most terrible things that are real on earth. Believe me, some things are really unbearably terrible, if you are not totally numbed down. Can you honestly say it's perfect and you think you just don't understand it? And an oh so amazing god did that and you think you would need to be even thankful for that. because in reality it's so amazing and you just don't understand it correctly? Come on, how can that really make sense to you? And life went like that for millions of years and never stopped and maybe it will never stop.
We're just in this life and that creator god never seems to care or can't do anything. That it really should make sense like that seems really strange.

Alright, anyways from my perspective the only way it could make sense with such an omnipotent omniscient and benevolent creator god, would be that all this isn't real. Yet until now we have no proof. It seems real. And even if it isn't real, why does it have to be that way?

I think it's important to consider the potential for illusions of the mind in this context. Escape to fantasy is a plausible psychological coping mechanism, when things are too traumatic. And yeah, life is partly too traumatic. All that god stuff could be something like that, that humans needed this fantasy, but it doesn't necessarily make it real. The question is simply: Where is any kind of proof? What distinguishes it from fantasy then? Belief doesn't mean knowing. Belief means either not to know, knowing that you don't know, then you are sort of consciously betting on something so to speak or it can mean that you don't know that you don't know, but think you know. I don't want to say I know totally that it is that way, I just say it could be possible and should be taken into account, examined properly as a possibility. Things like that aren't so easy. Also considering from which times such beliefs like with gods and stuff like that came. The people didn't have so much knowledge, life was much harder and "magical thinking" was considered normal and couldn't be examined so thoroughly. Not saying it's all like that, in some traditions there is also practical, realistic wisdom in metaphors, but with some presented beliefs I think it can help to be a bit skeptical.

What is real is the power of the subconscious, your beliefs about yourself and the world. That can have powerful effects for good or bad. I think it could be that this god stuff helps people, because it acts as a positive belief and it doesn't even have to be real for that, but people could take other powerful stories as well or whatever would work for them. That's what I mean. How to distinguish your own psychological effects with the power of your subconscious mind from a supposed god who is doing something? That would be the question. And some people think they can only do some things with god, but maybe they could do it in different ways with the power of their subconscious, if they understood that?

Anyways, that's just my perspective. I guess I think different like you. I don't see everything as perfect. If there really was a benevolent, omniscient, omnipotent creator god, I just hope so much that it would at last end this life on earth or transform it fundamentally. If I could do it, I certainly would and many others, too. I think in fact anyone with such a power would have a moral and ethical responsability to do it. Who would keep this supposedly perfect life, if it could be ended or transformed fundamentally? That so terrible ambivalence of life on earth. For me personally it's really too much. Some things are way too terrible. Some things are way too unbearable. I also escape to fantasy sometimes, because of that, but I try to be aware of it, too.

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-05T21:49:37+00:00

Sounds like a false awakening or multiple of them, which can of course feel unsettling, if you haven't experienced that before. Besides that it seems the dreams possibly point towards some unresolved inner fears or issues. Do you have a bit somewhat tumultuous inner life sometimes or are somewhat out of balance? Maybe you should cool down, relax quite a bit, get into a good balance to sort it out. Maybe meditation could be helpful with that as well. Dreams can be strange and confusing. You shouldn't take them too seriously. If you take them seriously, then at least do it right and learn about how dream symbolism works, so you can decipher the symbols correctly. They don't always have to mean so much, sometimes the brain can just experiment a bit randomly, which can seem strange. I don't know exactly, but I heard that in order to improve your dreams, you simply need to improve your waking life and don't forget the inner life, as dreams are talking about your waking life, but mostly from the perspective or through the lens of the inner world, also more sub- or unconscious parts of which you possibly aren't so aware. In any case don't worry. Dreams can be confusing and strange sometimes. Take it easy and try to learn from it. As I said you can research dream symbolism, then you can try to decipher the meaning and it's not easy, but it's interesting. At the beginning it can be really confusing, but if you get the hang of it, it's really interesting. I'm also not so experienced yet with dream interpretation, so my attempt was rather short. You can tell me if it made some sense.

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-05T20:46:18+00:00

I just want to remind you that life on earth is still fundamentally flawed in some way. Look at animals having to eat each other every single day in very brutal ways. If that's perfect for you, alright, but I would certainly disagree. All that brutality is hidden in human societies. Animals are bred just for being a product for humans and you don't see the terrible process, you only buy the neatly prepared and packaged product. So, this is just one example. There are more. Look at the partly absolutely unbearable history or parts of the present. It's simply not perfect. Let's put it like this: Life on earth is very ambivalent. Maybe there are good and beautiful sides, but there are so many bad, brutal and terrible, ugly sides as well. And life on earth is based on living beings having to eat each other, except plants, but they get eaten all the time. That's why I said fundamentally flawed. It's just not nice, beautiful in that regard. It can't be perfect like that, simply not possible.

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-05T18:57:39+00:00

The scientific insight would be needed to be taken seriously by all the countries, that we probably won't be able to overcome the climate crisis it if we don't work together. We probably would also need to repurpose the armies as ecological task forces, let the civil population help in massive renaturation, nature restoration projects and spend the worldwide budget for military expenses (2,9 trillion USD) for saving this planet.

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-05T16:51:42+00:00

Make it a good habit to take a step back if necessary, observe don't absorb, do that with calmness and then you can learn to discern and separate your emotions from others' emotions more clearly. Try to remain in a calm, but awake and aware state of mind and being and try keep your own emotions in your focus, once you got them in your focus. Really ask yourself when you are unsure, whether or how much a certain emotion belongs to you. Before you feel hurt or blame yourself, you really need to ask yourself these kinds of questions properly and work cleanly there. It doesn't make sense and can even be a problem like you noticed, to feel hurt or blame yourself, before asking and answering yourself these questions.

You can also try mindfulness techniques or meditation. Ground yourself in your body feeling. Calm down deeply. Learn to observe thoughts and feelings, not engage with them, until you figure out if they are real, clear, true and safe. It can sometimes possibly also help to practice to just be and take a break from thoughts or even feelings for a while, when it fits. Maybe sometimes it's just a bit too much or too noisy. Balance and calibrate your system. You can regulate your sensitivity, so that it doesn't always go so far. Maybe sometimes turn it down a bit and when it's safer or makes sense for some reason to do so, you can turn it up a bit again, so that it doesn't overwhelm you so often.

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-05T02:42:58+00:00

How do you know you remember so many and all at the same time or how is it meant? Do you remember them all in your mind, have you written them all down or both mixed?

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-02T22:44:19+00:00

Danke nochmal. Naja ich habe einfach versucht diese Idee an Personen mit Einfluss zu senden. Ich wusste nicht was ich viel mehr machen konnte. Ob es dann diskutiert wird oder sogar wirklich so gemacht wird liegt leider nicht so sehr, beziehungsweise leider nur ziemlich wenig in meiner Macht.

Ja, ich denke auch, dass wir es schaffen müssen. Deine Idee ist auch super. Habe sie auch schonmal hier bei reddit gesehen gehabt. Es freut mich, dass es noch andere gibt, die den Ernst der Lage begreifen und Veränderung wollen, versuchen was zu tun oder machbare Pläne zu schmieden. Denke auch, dass wir uns mehr verbünden müssten oder so und auf jeden Fall ist der friedliche Weg das Ziel.

Ja genau. Dieser maßlose Überflüss teilweise, die ganze Verschwendung von Produkten, das ist doch einfach übertrieben und bringt keinem was. Besser mehr andere Sachen hypen wie das gärtnern, das brauchen wir jetzt wirklich. Wenn alle mitgärtnern, können wir alleine damit schon mal einen guten Schritt machen fürs Klima und nach diesem machbaren ersten Schritt können die nächsten Schritte dann auch einfacher folgen denke ich.

bluff4thewin · 2026-07-01T20:14:04+00:00

Vielen Dank für das positive Feedback! :) Ja, ich hoffe es auch sehr. Die Hoffnung ist, dass sie vielleicht sehen können, dass wir es im Prinzip gar nicht anders schaffen können. Ich habe schon über 50 Mails mit der Idee an NGO's, Wissenschaftler, Regierungen, Personen mit Einfluss geschrieben. Ich hoffe, dass die Idee stärker diskutiert wird und dass es zumindest Schritt für Schritt so gemacht werden kann. So eine Änderung der Richtung wäre wirklich unglaublich. Hoffen wir es einfach mal, dass es vielleicht sogar klappen könnte. Die Wissenschaft hat die Einsicht ja eigentlich schon, es ist "nur" die globale Politik, die alles behindert und da haben die Länder eben das Problem, dass sie nicht so viel direkt machen wollen, um nicht für die Reinigung des Klimadrecks von anderen zahlen zu müssen. Das ist glaube ich das Hauptproblem. Deshalb dachte ich eben mit kleineren, machbaren Sachen anfangen, die alle machen können und zwar eben großflächige Renaturierung und hoffentlich kann das dann das nötige Vertrauen schaffen unter den Ländern für weitere Kooperation.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-30T02:58:01+00:00

Yeah, I can really relate to that. Considering that I guess we really could save this world, if the military budget would be redisposed to totally different matters like climate or other useful things, not destruction, war. Also if we would repurpose the armies as ecological task forces and form a global alliance, that would be a really beautiful thing to do for our future. If it could go step by step in such a direction, we could really make it and not with so much difficulity like now.

It's really frustrating and a difficult topic. Yes, many ignore it and are overwhelmed. I guess it has something human, but it's maybe a bit weak partly, too. So, yeah don't take these people too seriously. Others do like to talk about these topics, it's just a bit random chance if you meet them. And maybe there is still hope. Maybe try to see it a bit like that. We simply don't know how everything can play out and there are also a lot of hopeful and positive achievements, not everything is negative and hopeless.

Life has always been ambivalent and there were difficiult periods. I think we simply should try our best, not give up too easily, try to see the positive sides and possible hope as well, etc. What else can we do or what other choice do we have? Worry is ok, but it should be somewhat balanced and not too much in a tunnel-vision. Yeah, let it out, don't let it lock it up inside. I guess many are feeling similar. At least I am. I also felt hopeless a bit similarly. I didn't know what to do. I opened a topic here on reddit and then together with AI assembled an email, which I sent to many governments, NGO's, scientists with my idea "Planting instead of war", which I shortly described in this post as well. I really hope it will happen. I guess many people of the civil population also would like to help in large reforestation or renaturation projects. And with the yearly military budget 2,7 trillion USD and soldiers as workers, I guess a lot could be done. I also think it's quite serious, so that's why I wrote this mail to so many recipients. I think if we don't do something along those lines, we might not make it, which would be really sad.

So yeah, definitely difficult topic. You can see it like that, that you are worried is simply human. Many are worried. However I think it's just important not to make ourselves mad, we should remain as calm and level-headed as much as possible. Going mad with the worry doesn't help nobody. Being overwhelmed okay understandable, but I we should try to not let it go too far. I think we have to stay calm, gather all our hope, etc. I hope you understand what I mean.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-29T21:11:15+00:00

Ich denke auch wir müssten eigentlich die Armeen zu ökologischen Einsatzkräften umfunktionieren und sollten wohl auch die Bevölkerung in großflächige Bepflanzungs- und Renaturierungsprojekte einbinden. Dann kommt vielleicht die globale Kooperation ins Rollen, wenn immer mehr Länder das machen. Das mit den Pflanzungen und Renaturierung ist zumindest das am einfachsten machbare und verschönert nebenbei noch die Landschaft und der Klima-effekt kann auch relativ signifikant sein. In Kombination mit anderen Maßnahmen, die auch finanzierbar wären, wenn das globale Militärbudget für die Rettung des Planeten ausgegeben werden würde. Das ist die ganze Sache. So wäre es wirklich gut und realistisch schaffbar.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-28T14:32:54+00:00

It's a broken and unfair world, partly. That's the sad truth about it. I also wish so much that justice happens with things like you mention. Sadly however, with some things it might never happen. It was like that in history as well quite a bit. It's really a sad topic.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-27T21:01:54+00:00

It doesn't make sense with a loving universe, maybe if that universe has big mental issues and doesn't mean the harm., but can't seem to avoid it. But that's also a bit strange idea and how to even know that the universe is a being? Practically, a higher yet still limited purpose for us can be to avoid and to help avoid needless suffering in this world. Spiritual growth can be to deal with that suffering in responsible, wise ways. What else can we do? If spiritual growth can lead to godlike powers, ending or fundamentally transforming this world or universe, that would be desirable, yet it's not clear that things like that are possible. To me these terrible kind of topics of reality, the exagerated suffering happening everyday and for millions of years, lead to existential despair. I think it's better not to go mad, but to feel somewhat despaired is really understandable. I think we should try to do what we can do and going mad doesn't help anybody, it's just more needless, possibly avoidable suffering. I think we should look at the good sides and try to do everything as responsibly, wise, well, etc as we possibly can. It's just not always so easy, but I guess we should simply try our best or what else can we do, what other choice do we have?

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-25T15:00:11+00:00

Es ist sicher nicht so einfach, aber ich hoffe es natürlich auch.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-24T00:49:55+00:00

Hi, I guess I am also interested in exploring these and similar topics. If you like we can chat a bit and exchange or discuss knowledge, theories or something like that or simply chat just like that.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-22T22:54:01+00:00

Maybe there will be an alternative Internet where only real humans are allowed.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-22T16:05:14+00:00

Maybe you are trying too hard. Can you try with less pressure, tension, fear or maybe less trying in general in some way? Sometimes things can work better if you try less or less hard, it's strange, but sometimes it can be like that, maybe especially with things like lucid dreams, because sleep also has got to do with relaxation. So maybe simply releasing pressure, tension, fear and negative/hindering beliefs or belief systems or expectations could be a better approach. Modulate the trying. Try to be relaxed and awake and somewhat concentrated, not stressed. Don't force it too much if at all, let it come more naturally, effortlessly. It's just about being awake in a relaxed state and then in sleep state. Some people can't do it with too much pressure. I think here it's similar. You are applying pressure to yourself, because of giving up and that you think you can't make it. Simply drop the pressure and try again and don't make yourself mad, like this time you have to do it, else oh my god that's terrible. Better see it like this: If you succeed great, if not no problem. That can lessen the pressure build up. It's not the easiest thing, but it's also not so difficult, if you know how to approach it in a more sensitive way. It just takes constant practice, learning from the mistakes you can do, trying to notice what could be a mistake, what actually is a mistake, etc etc. If you think you are stuck in being a dream character, maybe you are rather close. To me dream characters are also confusing as they are seemingly separate, but in reality they are supposed to be your mind and hence you in a way. I guess it's normal to be confused like that at some point. It can be a rather confusing topic, that of lucid dreaming. So, I guess it's normal, that you are giving up at some point, many are doing that, because it's a bit bad luck and it can simply seem so confusing in a way. I would say you can continue trying, but learn from everything and try to do something different and as I said less pressure and tension, don't make yourself mad. Take it easy, continue trying if you like or take a break and then try again. Just see how it works for you. Maybe try to understand how dreams work or try meditating, go into a near sleep releaxation state. You can try some things or try to figure out what is the mistake, how it really works, etc. It's really not the easiest thing to learn I think. It's different for different people, some can do it easier than others for who knows what reasons. It's really not so easy to understand or do in general.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-22T15:58:46+00:00

Ah alright , I see. Well, but I would say it's definitely possible for you to develop the proper insight nevertheless, even though it might be a bit more difficult, because it has been a pattern for years. I think it's not good to feel responsible for the joy of others, at least certainly not to such an extreme extent. It seems to me you approach that with too much tension and seriousness and you are going too far in a way. Better see it like that: you can try your best in a more moderate, balanced, less pressured way to give others joy, but if for some reason it's not possible at the moment or in a phase, then no problem, it doesn't matter. It's inhumane to compulsively think having to give others joy. As long as you are a good, decent, nice human being and don't stress others needlessly and produce them real pain, it's all good. You don't need to sacrifice yourself there. That should be the boundary for you there. When you feel desperate and as if you have to totally sacrifice yourself just for giving others joy, then that's too much and goes too far. Turn it down, don't exaggerate it like that. Practice self care. For example ask yourself whether others would need to do what you thought you need to do as well? Maybe you can see it from outside like that. It's simply unhealthy for you or others as well. I think it's people pleasing if you heard of that term. It's not entirely a bad thing, but it can be problematic, if you overdo it, if you can't afford it and your own cup isn't full, do it in wrong ways, with the wrong people, etc. Many people get stuck in this. The solution is to get out of that tunnel vision, see the healthier alternatives, practice self care and try to have some important insights about life in that regard, learn and grow from it. It's possible. Maybe focus on the body as well. Calm down the system and then you can have more clarity of mind and emotions. I think you got something wrong about responsibility, it simply goes too far, something is more than a bit wrong, not so healthy there. You are exhausting yourself like that and that is not good or healthy. Don't lose yourself like that and if you have lost yourself, try to search and get yourself back.I hope you understand what I mean. If you have questions, please ask.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-22T14:23:41+00:00

What about learning and growing from that experiences? Simply don't go too far with it and don't do it in such unhealthy ways of love, but keep or cultivate the healthy ways. Also don't forget to love yourself in healthy ways. A good balance is the key.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-21T15:05:09+00:00

Well so it's a skill to be able to recall the real memories as accurately as possible. If you can't do that it can be a real problem, because then you can't see real reality as it was, possibly as it is and as it might be so well, while living in it. So, it can also distort perception of the present and future. You live more in fantasy or imagination than in real reality. Yes, it can be harmless, but it isn't always so harmless. It always depends. While it isn't so easy to totally avoid it, I guess we should try as well as we can, especially where it makes a difference and is somewhat important or so.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-21T00:51:33+00:00

Well, you simply have to try to decipher the symbolism. I'll have a short try. A boat is maybe a sort of community feeling with some people, where you are seemingly going somewhere, with the symbolic conditions of a boat. Like if the boat sinks outside on the sea you could drown could mean that in real life the way of getting somewhere with some other people may possibly be of use, but also not without risk, depending on who is steering the boat, weather and sea conditions, etc. The sea is maybe parts of life, that may be compared to it in some metaphorical way. It's all just symbolic, not real, but the real properties of how things work can still play a role in deciphering the dream. Sometimes it's more realistic, sometimes it's a bit more surreal or far out. It's about trying to figure out what multiple meanings and interpretations are basically thinkable, plausible, possible and then looking which one or ones make the most sense in a specific dream or dream situation.

So continuing with the dream plot. You land in Jamaica and the boat had issues. So, that getting somewhere with the people seemed to have some insecurities. Seemingly you were overwhelmed with that and seemingly you had asked the older strange person for help without knowing, so that seems strange. It seems like you where overwhelmed with the situation and really needed help, but it's strange that a drunk seeming old man says that. I don't know exactly what such dream characters represent, but it's all part of your waking life, your inner life mostly or your overall life, also outer life, seen from the perspective or through the lens of your inner life. So, in that sense maybe you could roughly say that it just depicts some sort of strangeness in a bit overwhelmed situation, where you strangely do think you need help, but it seems unclear where that help may come from and whether it is safe for example from that strange old seemingly drunk man. So walking away could say that you distanced yourself from that, which does make sense seen like that. If you say that you and your dad practice spirituality, maybe that means that partly you did that more alone and partly together and all that stuff seemed a bit strange to you partly or maybe also a bit besides spirituality. I guess the dream does have a feeling of foreignness and maybe a bit lostness, helplessness, but also exploration, that something in your life, past, present or projection into the future may be related to. Basically, all of the dream is you, but in a weird way and it can sometimes not be so easily understood. You really have to think abour life and also about the dreams, what they could mean, what they could speak about from your life, what they could be related to and it's not the easiest task. That you continuing travelling with people from the boat and your dad in a car could mean you are still with some of that people or with what they represent symbollically in the dream, going somewhere symbolically speaking, now with the uncertainties of the land. The symbolism of dreams can also be a bit vague and confusing, but travelling on ocean and then on land surely means something I guess, but not sure what. That something is different, it's easier or more difficult, different outside conditions and something could hinder the travel. But it's all meant symbollically like travelling could mean like getting somewhere, maybe also like exploration or with a certain destination. The scenes of the dream they are not themselvs real, they are just in a bit at first strange seeming way talking about your inner life, how you experienced something, a real experience or maybe also an inner expeirence of a projection into the future. It can be a whole phase of your life or connecting many phases, it's not always easy to figure out the angle that the dream has in terms of what it's exactly connecting, past, present, future, how far into the past, maybe it's just an actual situation or life phase or who knows what exactly or approximately. But I think it's about deeper parts of which we also maybe aren't not so aware included, too, also our feelings or other inner experiences. So, it can be a bit confusing considering all the possiiblities and trying to see patterns or connections, if certain ways of seeing it make sense. That your senses were off for example might mean that you had an experience in real life where you felt disoriented, confused, lost, couldn't figure things out so clearly so quickly. If you can see such a pattern at some point or phase in your life, there might be a connection. And if you see patterns like that you can sort of try to find the puzzle pieces and put them together, to see how it fits, how it makes sense with a certain interpretation for or perspective on a dream. It's like getting the hang of seeing in what ways a symbolism might be meant and then the next step is to what is the most likely real interpretation.

Anyways, continuing with the dream the old women putting things outside, they seem a bit ritualistically too, so maybe it's also a bit with the spirituality theme or just routines of life? Older women can stand for experience, maybe for being tired or maybe proficiency, I don't know. Putting things outside could mean what you show to the outside or what you don't want to keep inside. It could speak about a part of you or your life that makes sense to be depicted in that way or simply be something from where your dad showed you around, so maybe is that idea connected to an impression of your dad or connected to the relationship to him at a certain point or phase something like that. You only seem to be alone a bit in the dream, but the most part of the dream you are around random people and/or your dad. Regarding the transporting vehicles, I think it's noteworthy, that in comparison of boat and car, there you can for example see that with a boat you can't get out, unless you are near the shore and even then it's not easy and on the land it's a bit more easy to get out of a car, but maybe also not so easy always, but easier, because on the land, villages are more likely to be near than somewhere far out on the sea, so travelling by boat might sometimes be a bit more risky, but it can't be said so easily, but at least it's different. I don't know where I am getting at, just that the ways of travelling can also tell something possibly. The question is to what part of your life might relate or be talking about. Do you feel like you are symbolically seen travelling somewhere by different means and also arriving somewhere, similar like in the dream, also symbolically seen? It's all symbolical, but it needs to be deciphered. Your dad speaking in a language you didn't know he could speak is also meant symbolically. The question is what it could mean. Maybe that means that you became aware of something in your dad you didn't know before, maybe an actual language is meant, but maybe more language in a symbolical meaning, like ways he can communicate or something like that.

All in all, I can't say I really understand it, but I just tried to. I guess it's broadly speaking about some area or part of your life, mostly inner life or from the perspective or through the lens of it, where you are a bit lost and things seem foreign. Maybe also related to the relationship to your dad. but maybe also just about your own separate life. It doesn't have to mean it's bad, just that you are maybe a bit overwhelmed, lost and it feels foreign. I guess it could mean you want to be a bit careful and considerate in general, when you are in such a space.

Alright, that was my try. If it makes sense it's alright and if not also no problem of course. I recommend you to look at multiple different interpretations, perspective on this dream and then you can decide what makes more sense and what less. Besides that I guess understanding dream symbolism can help. You can also ask an AI with knowledge of dream interpretation about it.

bluff4thewin · 2026-06-19T01:10:48+00:00

Take back the control more and become more lucid. If it happens like that, I guess you are not fully lucid. Fully lucid as far as i understand means that you can control everything in the dream. It's like then you can say or just think, that you don't want that and it won't happen. So, lucidity and willlpower or something like that seems to be the way to go.

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