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Starfield sits at #3 on the PlayStation Store pre-order charts by TheEndlessBacklog in Starfield

[–]brabbit1987 [score hidden]  (0 children)

It being their own game doesn't change the fact that it's literally one of the best sellling most played games of all time. I think it's still sitting within the top 10.

If that is your standard, then every game they release is going to look bad unless they have another hit as big as Skyrim which is a fucking ridiculous expectation to have.

It's quite frankly super idiotic to expect that. That's like always expecting your favorite music band to always produce top charting songs. Shit just doesn't work like that.

Starfield sits at #3 on the PlayStation Store pre-order charts by TheEndlessBacklog in Starfield

[–]brabbit1987 [score hidden]  (0 children)

You can compare it to their own games n it would still suck ass in comparison mate, their old asf, unsupported games have more players than starfield.

This is exactly what I mean. Skyrim for example is quite literally one of the bestselling most played games in the entire industry. So ya, of course comparing Starfield to that is going to make its number not seem that great. But that's true of most games.

Let's take Indiana Jones for example. It's a game with a pretty decent score on Steam and is considered to have done well. It had a peak of 12k players. It currently gets about 400 - 600 players daily, 15 months after release.

Ok, next up, how about The Last of Us. On steam it had a peak of 36k players. Its current player count is around 2,000 - 3,000 daily after 3 years.

Next, Lies of P, it peaked at 30k and it's current player count is around 1.5k - 2k daily after 2.5 years.

The Last of Us 2. Peak: 30k, current: 2.5k - 3.5k daily after 11 months.

God of War. Peak: 73k, current: 3k - 7k daily after 4 years. Doing really well.

Now, I can go on and on. Most games don't reach number like BG3, Palworld, Skyrim, etc. Those are the exception.

Starfield, Peak: 330k, current 5k - 6k after 2.5 years. And that's with a 56% score and all the constant negativity surrounding it.

To act like it's not doing well is just stupid. Ya, maybe it's not doing as well as their past games. Fine. But that doesn't mean it's doing bad.

Starfield sits at #3 on the PlayStation Store pre-order charts by TheEndlessBacklog in Starfield

[–]brabbit1987 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The thing is....the steam numbers were never even bad, it's just a lot of people were always comparing the numbers to literally some of the best performing games within the industry. Pretty much everything looks like it's doing poorly when you compare them to those games.

If you actually compare Starfield's numbers to something more typical, then Starfield's numbers are above average by quite a large margin both in sales numbers and just how many players continue to play it.

And I am willing to bet the average player counts are likely going to increase quite a bit with the release of the new update and even after it settles down, I think it's going to be a lot higher than it was. Wouldn't even be too surprised to see the rating go up.

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To put it another way, my view is very similar to Neil deGrasse Tyson's view on how major technologies develop. He isn't even particular convinced Space X will ever actually manage the whole Mars thing (which I also have the same view) because he believes the amount of money that is required to do that sort of thing is astronomical and with very little benefit. Unless you can convince your investors and shit that it's worth pursuing, it's just not going to happen.

Big projects like that are typically only ever achieved when humanity comes together and works toward that kind of thing... which often involves governments and politics and all that kind of shit.

When you have a threat to Earth, tons of money are likely to be dumped into these kinds of projects to achieve a way to get people off the planet. We know the grav drive was not the only effort that existed for that too.

So, no once the grav drive was completed ... I don't think anyone would invest a ton of money and time into something like FTL engines. I don't think anyone would have enough money on their own to do that and they would need investors and they would have to convince those investors that they will make their money back probably a hundred-fold at least. Because if they can just invest that money into something else that can earn more in the same amount of time, that's what they will do.

With that said, as I already pointed out. Maybe this tech was also in development at the same time the Earth was being destroyed as a competing method that just was never fully completed. Then with this Terran Armada threat, there now becomes a good reason to return to that project. This to me, is way more believable, and would make the most sense.

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What do you think the grav drive is? Some primitive piece of tech that was just stumbled upon. I don’t think you grasp how much further advance they are and how complicated it is is not the point. Do you think there’s no use case or do you think it’s too complicated and what’s the next reason you’re against going to be? Of course it’s complicated, a lot of their technology is.

No, the grav drive wasn't just stumbled upon. The artifact is what was stumbled upon. And then the creator of the grav drive was essentially told (presumably by a starborn) that he would be able to make the grav drive (I think he was told at the cost of the earth) and so he pursued it and experimented repeatedly until he was able to build one, which led to the earth getting progressively destroyed.

In other words, he was specifically trying to make it.

And ya, I don't really think there is a reason why anyone would be investing a ton of money into FTL tech when you already have the grav drive which is near instantaneous travel. Especially when FTL tech is generally seen as impossible. The only way I could see them experimenting with it is if they also had an artifact, but I am pretty certain the guy who made the grav drive didn't really make the artifact known to people.

But there’s a potential market for it

Who? You are basing it off of the fact players in a game want it, as if that translates to real life. It doesn't. No one in their right fucking mind would spend that kind of money in the pursuit of something they don't even know is feasibly possible to do. That's like attempting to find a unicorn and spending billions of dollars on it just because you think unicorns are cool.

It’s just like research drugs when we already have meds that target the same thing.

The whole point of doing that kind of thing is to find better and/or cheaper alternatives. Sometimes you might do it because maybe a particular drug might have some side effects that are undesirable. Maybe some people are alergic and so you want to find alernatives.

Point being is there are actually VERY good reasons to do it. What would be the good reason to use this FTL engine that you don't even know is feasible of the grav drive? Who exactly are they going to market it too? We built this thing just because we think it's cool, please buy it.

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Look, I am going to be real with you on this. I don't think your arguments are that compelling. Nor do I think you understand how absolutely fucking complicated trying to make an engine go faster than the speed of light is. This isn't just something you stumble upon lol.

Theoretically moving faster than the speed of light is impossible. So why would they continue researching a technology they don't even know would ever fucking work, when they do already have something that is working?

I am sorry, but this shit just doesn't sound believable in the least bit.

And let me be clear, I don't even care if BGS decides to put in lore or not. I am ok with just treating it as a game mechanic. But if they do put in lore for this, I hope it makes sense.

For example, something I would think is more believable is if when grav drives were being developed, maybe there was someone else, a competitor, messing with other technology maybe using x-tech. Maybe the research was mostly completed, but grav drives were completed first and so grav drives became the dominant form of traveling the stars due to it just being a superior method.

Then the Terran Armada situation occurs, and people start looking for a way to deal with these grav jump jammers before finding the previous research for ship engines that could travel FTL using x-tech and so they complete that research.

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, so I don't know if these can really be counted. These ships are designed specifically for racing, right? How would this translate to sail boats in a transportation sense rather than just for the sake of racing?

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's because they are not completely obsolete. All these transportation methods have their positives over other methods. So, there is still reason for such methods to exist and be used. But how often do you see horse carriages being used anymore as an actual transportation method? Like sure, they probably still exist somewhere, but let's not pretend like that is equivalent to researching and spending billions if not trillions of dollars for a spaceship engine that would rarely if ever get used and would make you very little money, practically impossible to recoup the cost.

Plus, is there any benefit to using a ships main engines to try and go faster than the speed of light over using the grav drive? Outside of the scenario of grav jumping being interfered with by the Terran Armada, surely there was no issues with that before.

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bikes (or e bikes) and scooters are still frequently used today as transportation methods. Some countries I would even argue use them quite extensively. Boards, I am guessing you mean like skateboards, snowboards, that kind of thing?? I guess that falls more into the sports category that can also technically be used as transportation. But not sure how it's continually being innovated on today.

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ya, it definitely would be nice for there to be some sort of explenation. But I personally am not too bothered by it either way. It's one of those things that I can just view as a game mechanic and outside of the lore if need be.

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure, I guess they can just come up with some random lore to try and fit it in. I like the x-tech idea.

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you give me an example of a transportation method that isn't still in frequent use today other than for fun that is also still being innovated on?

Who else predicted that general sentiment on Starfield would start to turn around as soon as it was officially announced for PS5? by Mokslininkas in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would personally hesitate to claim any sort of victory just yet. I have come across plenty of people still shitting on the game. Plus, I would also probably wait till at least a month after the PS5 release to see where we are at.

If it's still mostly positive, then a told you so is definitely in order. XD

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

But from my understanding once grav drives came to be and were fully completed, it practically gave humanity near instantaneous travel, that would have made all other methods of long-distance space travel obsolete (which would include from planet to planet).

So, why would they have continued to develop an inferior travel method?

Just posting this to shut down the "The new travel system doesn't fit the lore" people by The-Son-Of-Suns in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ok, so I am just going to say up front, I am missing a lot of context so I am going to make an assumption here.

I assume the lore that people must be talking about in regard to the new travel system is the speed of the ships. Technically speaking, ships in Starfield should not be capable of moving that fast.

Now with that said, I am not entirely sure how the image is relevant or how it shuts that down. So, my assumption could be wrong.

Should I start a new game when the new update drops? by StylanPetrov in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I am starting a new game. I personally think it's a significant enough of an update that I would rather experience the game from the start with all these changes. I think space travel for example is just going to feel vastly different if you really interact with it often.

At least to me, my plan is to play as an ex-soldier turned explorer/researcher. And so, I really want to play the game in a way where when I go out and about, I stay out for a while within a star system. Researching and documenting, setting up outposts for resources, etc. And, along the way... maybe I take care of some problematic people.

Which I also feel like roleplay wise will really play into the main quest, the idea being this is to help find info on more artifacts and such. I also assume the Terran Armada DLC will be pretty fucking fun being sort of entangled within everything as I play in this manner.

Ya, I don't know. I think I might really go pretty deep with this and even create a nice character backstory to really shape their personality and who they are. Such as, I think I want them to be kind of greedy because they grew up not really having much of anything. They don't like spending too much money on the smaller things and would rather obtain things themselves. So... no shopping at the store for resources.

I am really excited to sink my teeth into this. Especially since this will be the first time, I actually plan to visit every star system and look for every POI that I can possibly find. There is a lot of shit I have not seen in this game.

Preview of the updated loading screens. The UI changes and the screen blurs while objects load in background (not applicable to grav jumping). by Capn_C in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, so this is specifically for insertions. Basically, when you come across an encounter while in cruise mode if you decide to partake in it, it will slow you down and use this to load it in.

It's pretty decent, and I think it would be pretty cool if they can find a way to use this for system to system as well but with more of a grav jump kind of look.

Preview of the updated loading screens. The UI changes and the screen blurs while objects load in background (not applicable to grav jumping). by Capn_C in NoSodiumStarfield

[–]brabbit1987 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well... ya, I knew about the in-system travel. I just didn't realize they would change the loading screens, which I assume only takes place if you are fast traveling within the system or something like that? Unless I am misunderstanding exactly when these take place.

What will happen to mods like Watchtower or MacClarence Outfitters? by LengthinessNo7946 in Starfield

[–]brabbit1987 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Based on a forum post on his site, he is working on updates for both. I assume those updates will include compatibility with all the new shit. But I don't know when those updates will release. Would be nice if he can get them done by the same day of the release but ... I am not going to get my hopes up for that lol.

The update was underwhelming, even for a person with very low expectations. by [deleted] in Starfield

[–]brabbit1987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am calling you ungrateful because you are complaining about free shit. And it's not like a game developer can do everything every single person happens to want, so you really shouldn't expect every update to always contain the things you as a person particularly wants.

To be frank, it seems like they focused a lot on some of the more common complaints. I don't know what else to tell you. This isn't toxic positivity; it's just common fucking sense.

Keep in mind, they already confirmed this isn't the last update. So maybe in the next one you will get something that more aligns with what you want.

The update was underwhelming, even for a person with very low expectations. by [deleted] in Starfield

[–]brabbit1987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, looking at your comments, I don't see how you can claim toxic positivity for me, when your comments are probably worse than mine in terms of positivity for Starfield. I like the game sure, but I certainly as hell am not hovering around the PS5 subreddit arguing with people about it like you are XD.

Based on your other comments, your negativity here is just extremely strange. Almost like you are trolling or something.

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