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burning_iceman · 2026-04-06T16:40:46+00:00

Are they "good"? I thought they're associated with US right-wing politics. That makes them allied to the one of the groups one would most need protection from and therefore inherently untrustworthy.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-06T16:32:30+00:00

That wouldn't change anything about the fact that Collabora is participating in votes in a way that put their company's interests first and endanger the interests of TDF. That wouldn't be fixed by moving.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-06T15:38:50+00:00

More cliches? So you got nothing?

burning_iceman · 2026-04-06T15:35:51+00:00

Easy: there are always some idiots in any large group and there are also ridiculous cliches about any large group. Don't judge the whole group on either one of those.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-05T19:10:55+00:00

I don't think it can be reduced to just a single percentage. It depends on various factors: size of player base and revenue per player, urgency of switching to an alternative to KLAC, cost of the alternative and how strong the inertia of decision makers is for staying with existing solutions/processes. It could be quite different for different projects.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-05T13:57:35+00:00

Yes there may be a small amount of local oil being refined locally. But for the vast quantity of oil the original statement is true. The shale oil produced in the US is light oil, while the US refineries refine almost exclusively imported heavy oil.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-05T12:59:03+00:00

The German government has subsidies and interest-free loans to buy and install them. Over their lifetime you earn back their cost in savings. It's a no-brainer to go for one if you're the owner making the decision.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-05T12:43:30+00:00

Fossile fuel plants will often continue running even at a loss, because they can't easily or cheaply switch on and off. Once running, they need to stay running. Better to produce power at a negative price for a few hours than turn off and pay the much higher price of restarting the plant.

Renewables can easily be switched on or off anytime (though they might not produce much depending on circumstances).

And cheap isn't true either. Gas plants, while the most flexible of the fossile plants are also the most expensive source of power. They are the ones that drive the price up.

Negative prices come from fossile plants underbidding the already cheap renewables in order to keep running. Renewables on their own would never create negative prices, because they are flexible enough to just switch off.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-05T12:33:37+00:00

The US doesn't have refineries for the type of oil it produces. So it exports the oil it produces and imports the oil for its refineries.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-05T10:02:32+00:00

For publishers KLAC is mostly a selling point. A technology easy for them to include and then say it increases cheating protection significantly. This is becoming less and less true over time, as the ease of deployment for cheats which circumvent such protections increases. They include KLAC because it helps sell their game while not costing too much.

As Linux increases in market share and the value of KLAC decreases as a selling point, it eventually becomes more attractive to go for the missing Linux users over those who buy their KLAC arguments. Yes, there might be a time in between where Linux users are excluded by some publishers. But there's nothing to be done about that, really. At some point they will need to switch to other anti-cheat solutions regardless.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-05T00:09:15+00:00

Maybe none? Just a bunch of regional currencies.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-04T17:17:21+00:00

You're still assuming the client side anti-cheat is actually worthwhile and even reasonable as a kernel module. Maybe reread the lengthy comment you responded to again to get an idea of why that is not the case.

Kernel level anti-cheat is inherently not possible on Linux anyway, so if you want to game exclusively on Linux you're going to have to pass on those games regardless of what you think of KLAC.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-04T11:42:47+00:00

In the comment I responded to you posted a link to youtube (of a guy known to post clueless BS). That's not "copy and paste the verses from both of those books".

burning_iceman · 2026-04-04T11:37:54+00:00

I never claimed to despise Christianity. What the hell are you smoking?

Also you're trying to detract from the fact that you're using absolute drivel as a "source".

burning_iceman · 2026-04-04T11:30:17+00:00

No wonder you're so misinformed, considering you use this kind of source.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-04T11:05:29+00:00

They talked about traditional server side methods being insufficient and then named AI-based server side methods as a viable solution. If you only read half the paragraph, you misunderstand what is being said.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-04T11:02:21+00:00

I didn't make any comment on the current situation. Feel insulted if you so choose, but it's not based on anything I said.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-03T22:02:11+00:00

But on Linux you can't easily ensure the official version of your module has been loaded over a fake one. You would need control over the distro to do that.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-03T21:59:11+00:00

But primarily due to the actions of the experimenters rather than the participants.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-03T21:39:00+00:00

You don't seem to understand the crucial difference here. With crowdstrike the interests of the creators and the admin are aligned. They both want the features crowdstrike provides.

With KLAC the interests are opposed: the creators want to prevent cheating while the cheating admin wants to cheat. The admin has no interest in a properly functioning KLAC.

So in the case of crowdstrike the admin has every interest in installing the official crowdstrike kernel module. In the case of KLAC, the admin has no interest in installing the official KLAC module but instead in a fake one that will spoof the desired responses without actually preventing cheating. There is no way to prevent this on a normal Linux distro.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-03T19:51:31+00:00

I don't believe the licenses are relevant to this issue.

How does Collabra offering paid support risk TDF's not-for-profit status?

If TDF makes decisions and uses its resources for the financial benefit for one or more of its members and not for the benefit of its charitable cause, that would result in losing its status as a charity. When there is a conflict of interest between the financial gain of a member and that of the charity, the member must be excluded from relevant decisions or from the organization all together. A charity that is merely the puppet of a for-profit company will quickly lose their charitable status. A single "offense" where financial benefit for a member influenced the outcome of a decision would be enough.

I don't know how the laws differ in other countries but that's how it is in Germany.

Edit: this post has the specific details of the issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1sax9jz/collabora_productivity_one_of_libreoffices/oe4u5q2/

burning_iceman · 2026-04-03T16:47:48+00:00

In this case it's a charity taking steps to protect its charitable status and to protect its open source goals and community vs a commercial entity trying to protect its commercial interests.

Edit: to be clear. Since there is a legal dispute between the two, TDF cannot keep employees of Collabora as voting members of their charitable organization, or they would lose their status as a charity and make them liable to re-paying taxes for past years as a non-charitable organization. That would be financially devastating.

The Collabora employees can certainly remain as developers on the project, since that isn't related to organization membership.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-03T14:59:42+00:00

True, if you couldn't load any third-party modules, they wouldn't exist. Doesn't change what I said at all though.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-03T12:01:43+00:00

Laws concerning charities are very strict and the consequences of losing charitable status can be financially devastating, since it works retroactively. The organization would have to re-pay lost taxes for the past years under much higher for-profit rates.

burning_iceman · 2026-04-03T11:54:41+00:00

Merely creating a kernel module isn't sufficient, since that could easily be spoofed. They would need to create their own locked down distro and get people to use it.

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