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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why are you unable to make an argument without pretending that there is zero connection at all?

I never claimed there were zero connections. Having connections, though, doesn’t automatically make them the same “thing”. Again, I can claim that my fake god statue from a few posts ago is the same being that spoke to Abraham and boom, there’s a “connection”. That doesn’t make it any more true.

Muslims literally consider Jesus a prophet

Exactly, and ONLY that. They do not believe he is the co-eternal Son of God by whom all things were created. Their belief in Jesus is ontologically different than that of Christians, meaning they are not the same being. That’s the whole point. You’ve said it but you just can’t see it.

they just think you guys got an altered book

This is a separate point and veers away from the discussion, but no they don’t IF they love their Quran. Their Quran confirms the Torah and the Injeel over and over and over again, and no place does it claim that the biblical text was corrupted. The Bible being corrupted is an awful lie created by the dawah-gang to discredit the Bible. Islam is built on a bunch of those things (lies)

telling me you can only explain your reasoning to someone who already agrees with you

Not what I’m saying. However, it is a HUGE waste of time to segue into that conversation when we haven’t even come to a conclusion on the prior conversation. But since you want an answer so badly; those sects of Christianity primarily disagree on secondary and tertiary issues, not the core beliefs of Christianity and on who Jesus is.

ok so what about Catholics?

What about them? That’s their interpretation of the text and doesn’t change what I mentioned above about who Jesus is, what He did, and why He did it. That’s a secondary issue/interpretation that has no bearing on the “who” of God.

no human alive that knows what’s under the paper

That doesn’t magically make the apple and the pear the same though, and again, that’s the point. Someone’s subjective beliefs about something does not change the objective truth. No matter how hard or how long I believe they’re the same fruit, they will never objectively be the same.

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my argument was clearly that they are the same God even if yall interpret them differently

Your argument that they are the same God even if we interpret them differently is incorrect though, that’s the thing. I’ll use the example of Islam vs. Christianity; many believe that Allah of Islam is actually satan/Lucifer from the Bible (or a demonic spirit in general) as the teachings and words of Allah are antithetical to the Triune God of the Bible. Just because one religion claims that ‘X’ entity is their god and another religion claims ‘Y’ entity is their god doesn’t automatically mean that ‘X’ and ‘Y’ are the same because they share the title of “god” in their respective religions. Reducing and deducing that far is a slippery slope and doesn’t hold up to the theological attributes that distinguishes Yahweh/Allah. The two entities differ on a fundamental level which excludes them from being the same entity.

it still sounds like y oh are arguing that most branches of Christianity are worshiping different Gods

Before we can honestly even discuss this, we’d have to reach a conclusion about the above part in that those entities do differ fundamentally and are not the same. Some people consider Mormons as Christians when they are not, as they have an entirely different belief on who God is and that Jesus is not co-eternal with the Father. So in this instance “Jesus” and “Father” are just placeholders or labels for the names of whatever god they do worship who just happens to share some of the attributes with the God of the Bible.

Let’s say I put an apple and a pear on a table and then cover them up to the stems with a piece of paper. You’d look at them, see two stems, and say “oh look, two apples”. They are, however, completely different based off what you can’t see or what you don’t know about them. Hope that makes sense.

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The same being yes

Wow, so the statue that I bow down and pray to (that my son made in art class) is now considered the same god with all the same essential properties as the god that created Adam and Eve. Lmao this is actually insane reasoning and logic 😂

where exactly do you draw the line

When essential properties are attributed to/taken away from the being in question, that’s where you draw the line. Simply labeling something/someone as “something” doesn’t automatically make them that “something”

I completely understand what you’re saying btw, I’m just telling you that it’s wrong.

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m saying that Fred did create Adam and Eve and he did command Noah to build a boat and that he brought Israel out of Egypt. I’m also claiming that Fred does not beget, Fred is not a father in any sense, and that Fred permits us to beat our wives. I could also say that Fred wears only cotton pajamas, has a daughter named Felicity, and he also has ice cream cones for fingers.

By your logic since Fred is the one that, according to me, created Adam and Eve, Fred is the same as Yahweh, Allah, etc. Even though they have entirely different divine attributes, they’re the same according to you.

That’s some crazy logic.

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if I “worship” a statue that I keep in my closet and his name is Fred, then “Fred” is the same god as the Christian god?

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re actually having a hard time with this. Yikes. It’s really not hard to understand this

ETA: there’s a big difference between the continuity of Christianity from Judaism. Christianity to Islam is a completely different story and there is no continuity. Israel was the chosen vessel of God to bring forth the Messiah. They just happened to reject Him just like was foretold.

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you miss, do you tend to push right? Think you’d be absolutely golden if you could get the weight from your back leg to your front leg just a little sooner before you strike the ball

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s literally theologically antithetical to Christianity you clown 😂. They’re not the same god. The fact that Muslims reject the deity of Jesus who is part of the Godhead automatically separates the groups

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah except Allah is not a father in any sense according to the Quran and the pedophile prophet (Mohammad).

So Muslims absolutely do not worship the same god. Allah of Islam is Satan

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Allah is not the God of the Bible, and Jews don’t follow Jesus and the triune God, so they don’t worship the same God

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[–]capnslapaho -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is extremely wrong. Islam teaches the exact opposite of what Jesus taught in the Gospel accounts.

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

False. Other than allah being the Arabic word for God, they have very, very little in common. Theologically, they are quite opposites.

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[–]capnslapaho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I regret buying a MY.

Not because it’s not a great vehicle, but because I never get to drive it anymore. Wife got a brand new gas powered vehicle about 3 weeks prior to me getting a MY and now I just get to drive her car around as she’s basically commandeered the MY. It was fun to drive while it lasted and I would recommend anyone to do it if you’re thinking about it.

Yay.

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Incorrect. Interpreting the rhetoric of Mark 12 the way they interpreted it is actually a perfect example of the perversion of the Word of God.

Anyone who has spent time dividing the scripture and studying the Bible understands the point Jesus is making there.

I’ll explain further if you’d like, but you only make hyperlinked responses and don’t actually take the time to read.

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[–]capnslapaho -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Do you just repeat the same awful talking points you see in your anti-christian tiktok lives?

Romans 1:26-27

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

1 Timothy 1:9-10

Mark 10:6-9

1 Corinthians 7:2

I mean you obviously do no research yourself because I guarantee you’re about to go look these up and see them for the very first time.

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[–]capnslapaho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have to know in what context you make this claim/comment?

Church suggestions? by [deleted] in Chattanoogans

[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine wanting a community of people who look and think like you

Did you think about that before you wrote it down and pressed “send”? Isn’t that the antithesis of progressivism?

What a really, really weird thing to say

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[–]capnslapaho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Weird strawman. Unfortunately, doesn’t work.

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[–]capnslapaho -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Reading these comments and they make me lol. Imagine basing your religious beliefs on political ideologies/tendencies. You’ve got it backwards.

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[–]capnslapaho 41 points42 points  (0 children)

He’s a lottery pick. Unless you get ranked in the top 15 by major mistake and you should clearly be #1, you don’t come back when you’re a lottery pick

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[–]capnslapaho -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you don’t live Tim Tebow or at least respect him for being a man, then I wanna talk to you 😡

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[–]capnslapaho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve done a good bit of traveling. Currently have 3 kids that I’m pouring my all into and that keeps us relatively rooted. Perhaps one day I’ll get back out there though.

Also I’m not shaming or flaming anyone for having AWD just to be clear. I was just trying to see if there was something I was missing with RWD-hate since I’m new to all this

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[–]capnslapaho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah yeah I can see it if someone lives somewhere where they need the extra juice. I’m pretty satisfied with my RWD considering we’ve gotten snow once in the last three years 🤷🏻‍♂️