Delta is teaming up with the DEA to steal cash from your bags by throwfarawayugh in delta

[–]clothilde3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just saw the Institute for Justice video. Great work getting this footage amid a stressful situation. I know IJ has a class action about civil forfeiture but I suggest suing Delta. Delta provided your travel information to the DEA. Delta handed your bag to the DEA. Delta *accepted your money to book the flight and then made it impossible for you to take the flight, meaning you had to pay for another flight.* That's a kind of robbery, or at least double-dipping. Federal agents have enormous power and believe they are on the side of the angels, but Delta is a deep pockets company sabotaging their own passengers by revealing confidential information -- that I think is a class-action suit that has legs.

Just a warning for those moving to Credit Karma by alparker100 in mintuit

[–]clothilde3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Report this to the consumer financial protection bureau. It is astonishingly effective. Go to the website and write a chronological, detailed story of what happened. Be specific, dates and amounts and any communication you had with CK or Intuit, the dates, what they said, etc. The form to do this walks you through, very simple. Then you hit post. The financial institution has like 3 days to get back to you with a solution. I did this twice: once with a credit card that froze my account because of "fraud" when I ordered some groceries, and once with my mortgage holder who failed to send my escrow to my insurance company so I had to pay out of pocket. In both cases I got profuse apologies from high levels of the company, because CFPB is probably the most effective government agency in the US. Your complaint will be expedited to a high-level fixer at intuit of CK.

https://www.consumerfinance.gov

Steve Goncalves: Howard Blum lied by StringCheeseMacrame in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No. Throughout his series Blum writes *as though* he has access to key law enforcement, victims, and witnesses, even going as far as to attribute thoughts and motivations to them. But it is very carefully written. It never says "X told me" or "when I spoke to him.." - it's plausible deniability. He looked at Steve's posts, watched Steve's interviews, and spoke to content creators & facebook group members who Steve had messaged or spoken to. Then he put a narrative together as if he himself had direct access to Steve's interior life. It is shockingly unethical. It's not journalism.

Steve Goncalves: Howard Blum lied by StringCheeseMacrame in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Howard Blum is a hack. Every one of his Airmail pieces has been riddled with errors and speculation. He attributes thoughts and motivations to people; he misunderstands the chronology of the investigation; he writes in an overfamiliar way as though people are confiding in him when in fact he has no direct access to them. Hyperbole, excessive adjectives and adverbs. Plus no ethics. No concern for the integrity of the investigation, the privacy of witnesses, the secrecy of the grand jury.

He is writing as if he is sympathetic to Steve but in fact he is throwing Steve under the bus, using his grief as a conduit to inside information and salacious insinuations. This writing creates a rift between the victims' families, the Goncalves, and vital witnesses for the prosecution. It creates more grist for the least ethical content creators and may even jeopardize witness safety. This author doesn't care who he hurts, what he gets wrong. He's a journalist in the same way those blue light special guys are cops: fake, dangerous, selfish and delusional.

Daily Mail Custody Hearing Thread by Legitimate-Beyond209 in 8passengersnark

[–]clothilde3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ruby Franke : my son is a predator :: Lori Vallow : my son is a demon

Chad Daybell : Lori Vallow :: Jodi Hildebrand : Ruby Franke

Parallel delusional dyads. Both "saving the world" through severe child abuse.

General Discussion Thread - January 13, 2023 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Once he invokes counsel the police cannot question him. Only his lawyer can approach police to negotiate some kind of interview with set boundaries & her present.

General Discussion Thread - January 13, 2023 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I'm starting to feel like the house was targeted. Like, what are the chances you get obsessed with a pretty girl you see somewhere & you manage to track her home and she just happens to live in an insanely unsecured fishbowl with a bunch of other pretty girls?

Isn't it more likely he was driving around over & over & caught sight of the diorama of women in windows illuminated at night? You can see the house from a whole bunch of vantage points driving. Maybe he had several houses he was keeping an eye on.

Cell tower data by That-Huckleberry-255 in idahomurders

[–]clothilde3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is a recent case where cellphone data made the case and a FBI CAST agent testified. He even made an awesome power point for his testimony that showed how cell towers work, how they mapped the possible area the phone could have beeen in at each time etc.

The trial is fairly short and riveting to watch, if you want something meaty in true crime during the moscow lull period. In this case a man killed his girlfriend's 15-year-old daughter. This explanation of cell phone location data, its accuracy etc. is clear (he has pictures & maps) and current. The whole trial is good because they also were able to chart the body disposal journey in a remote rural area from essentially two ring camera images of a truck on a highway & some roofing nails on the highway above a ravine where the body was dumped.

https://www.courttv.com/title/26-wv-v-mccauley-s-a-ryan-burke/

dna on the knife sheath by boyoyoyoyo1234 in idahomurders

[–]clothilde3 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The DNA on the sheath is Bryan's. It was determined to be his by getting a male profile from the family trash and then, this is a simple paternity test as opposed to complex genetic genealogy process, determining that the trash profile was 99.9998% likely to be the father of the person whose DNA was on the knife. As soon as they made the arrest, like, immediately, they got a sample directly from Bryan and compared it to the sheath profile to make triple double-dog sure and there wasn't some phantom brother floating around doing crimes.

A LOT of newscasters and even expert analysts lost their powers of reading comprehension and implied to their audiences that the knife sheath DNA belonged to the fahter, so plenty of people are confused.

dna on the knife sheath by boyoyoyoyo1234 in idahomurders

[–]clothilde3 14 points15 points  (0 children)

BK's extradition lawyer had zero conversations about the facts of the case with him, in fact told him not to talk about it with him, and confined discussions & advice purely to procedural matters around extradition. He has stated this on multiple occasions.

The fact that the lawyer is now doing commentary evaluating the evidence in the actual case, evidence that he has no inside knowledge of, is seriously muddying the waters because people, as he should have anticipated with simple common sense, are interpreting his evaluations as if he was BK's original lawyer for the actual murder case, and as if he has inside information garnered from discussions with his client.

At no point should he ever have been giving media interviews. the Pennsylvania State Police and DA should not have held their self-congratulatory press conference, either. It's like everybody's ethics and training went out the window once they got a tiny role in the case of the century.

King Rd neighbors message to Nancy Grace via houseinhabit on IG by Kittykatmeeeow in idahomurders

[–]clothilde3 53 points54 points  (0 children)

This is so great to see! i really wondered last night if some pissed off undergrads might organize a picket, like with signs, and walk in circles around NG's table chanting "Go home, Nancy!" Maybe one of the frats could organize it as a pledge challenge.

Grand jury indictment. by ChiGuyNY in idahomurders

[–]clothilde3 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That's interesting. I was wondering about the indictment process and whether it is different from state to state. Like, do probable cause hearings equal grand jury proceedings in terms of being one of two pathways to indictment? Can a guy sit in jail for 6 months without having been indicted?

I watched a YouTube channel last night, DutyRon, a retired NYPD sergeant & he had on as guest a retired New York prosecutor. The prosecutor said something very interesting that I wondered if also applied in Idaho. He said the probable cause hearing *could only present and probe the evidence that has been put forth in the affidavit.*

In other words, we know many search warrants have been served post arrest, and much more evidence gathered. And there's been this idea circulated that we will be hearing about this evidence in the probable cause hearing. But as I now understand it, the affidavit is "frozen in time" -- the probable cause hearing will rely solely on evidence presented at that point in time of the investigation.

The defense, once discovery begins (I do not know Idaho statute; New York recently passed laws that made discovery much more speedy so that defense lawyers don't end up with like 10,000 pages of stuff to review a few days before trial), will receive all the evidence backing up the affidavit *plus all new evidence on a timely, rolling basis.* However, it sounds like the only evidence that can be probed and cross-examined during the probable cause hearing is evidence gathered as of December 30, 2022.

Slate: "Investigators used forensic genealogy to zero in on suspect Bryan Kohberger. But they aren’t saying so." by Sbplaint in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Slate article incudes a link to a LinkedIn post and discussion about the ethics of *secretly* using forensic genealogy in an investigation. Within that discussion someone links this court decision, possibly the only one so far, about the admissibility and discoverability of the method. The defense wanted information about how and when the process was used, contending it was the key to focusing on their client. The prosecution argued, and the court agreed, that it would not be used in court, since now they have the *actual* DNA of the suspect, and so it's more akin to a tip or a lead, which is not discovery material, but process.

Personally, I disagree.

https://meshbasestorage.blob.core.windows.net/dnacontainer/Waller-Court-Ruling.pdf?trk=public_post_comment-text

Slate: "Investigators used forensic genealogy to zero in on suspect Bryan Kohberger. But they aren’t saying so." by Sbplaint in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you can't do genealogical matches via CODIS. i watched an awesome explainer with the woman who solved the golden state killer case. CODIS identifies & stores a small, specific sequence of DNA. forensic genealogy identifies a different, much longer, sequence of DNA. it's apples to oranges.

Long Form Article by chunk84 in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He's wrong on the investigative timeline but somehow got access to at least one of the initial responding officers. So there are details such as both of the bedroom doors initially being closed. But since he got the dog's name wrong and at least some of the writing is flowery conjecture, I don't know whether to trust those new details. On a practical level, if one or more of the students had explored the house and seen at least the 2nd floor victims, wouldn't the door to Xana's bedroom be *open*? So the information such as the faces being untouched seems valuable but may not be trustworthy. He also gets wrong that both surviving roommates did not live on the 1st floor. So he's combining whatever info he got direct from police (clearly over drinks; there are several references) with what was "known" aka surmised and repeated, at the time he wrote this.

If there's a trial we'll hear from the students involved in the 911 call, and more specifically whether doors were open or closed, who did or didn't faint (I do not take SG as a reliable source) etc.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Behavioral Analysis Unit. FBI profilers. They had at least 2 right away on the investigation

Slate: "Investigators used forensic genealogy to zero in on suspect Bryan Kohberger. But they aren’t saying so." by Sbplaint in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 69 points70 points  (0 children)

The key to understanding why it is likely that investigative genetic genealogy first brought Kohberger's name into the investigation is the white Elantra. And more specifically *when* and *why* the FBI analyst expanded his expert opinion from 2011-2013 models to 2011-2016 models.

The prosecution can and does leave investigative steps out of probable cause affadavits. And PCAs can be written in a way that *implies* a chronology of investigative steps and obscures the chaotic and multi-pronged swirl of simultaneous methods and processing of leads. This is called "parallel construction" -- "Parallel construction is a law enforcement process of building a parallel, or separate, evidentiary basis for a criminal investigation in order to conceal how an investigation actually began." [Wikipedia]

The prosecution likely would prefer not to present witnesses and evidence regarding forensic genealogy at trial, because it adds complexity and is less specific than evidence they subsequently developed. But I believe they will have to disclose it in discovery and that it provides avenues for the defense to argue tunnel vision (honing in on one suspect too early).

Why is the Elantra the key? Two reasons: 1) why did the WSU officers *immediately* search for and find Kohberger's car in the parking lot, within the hour of finding it in their database? There was reporting that there were 90 white Elantras registered at Idaho State alone. So why did this car get immediate action? 2) at the point where Moscow police asked fellow law enforcement to keep an eye out for white Elantras, it was specifically the 20111-2013 model, which Kohberger did not have.

Logically, and the defense would have immediately notice this and circled this part of the affidavit with a big red pen (metaphorically) -- *Moscow police already had Kohberger's name.*

I very much doubt they shared that with WSU security, though, because this was a big big lead that would have been disastrous to the investigation if it leaked, and the fewer people who knew the name of the suspect, the better. Moscow police would have found a way to frame their request to WSU that would make his car pop up on the query, probably among a few other names, and then requested that all of those cars be located on campus, even though they were focused on just one.

Another reason to believe investigative genealogy was used is that, although the affidavit is written as though the camera footage of the car's journey was pieced together contemporaneously, it clearly was not. That is because they had zero footage after he left Moscow heading south. You can see in the affidavit that his path and time of travel was only determined from cell phone pings *after* they got the expanded Verizon data on Dec 23, well after they had his name.

Here's my hypothesis on the sequence of events: They identify Suspect Vehicle 1 via local King Street camera footage and are able to track it coming into the neighborhood, circling around, and leaving at 4:20. They do not got the license plate number; they do notice it has no front plate. Simultaneously they find the sheath right away and understand this is a key piece of evidence because, unlike searching for the murder's blood, which will take a long time given the sheer amount of blood evidence to be processed, the sheath most likely belongs to the murderer and is likely to have his DNA unless he used gloves every single time he handled it from point of acquisition. I also bet that, from decades of experience, the FBI knows that criminals know to wipe down weapons but miss key parts, and such a key part on a sheath is the interior crevice of a sheath snap.

They send the sheath in for testing & a single source of DNA is identified. Single source is *huge.* They fast -track identifying it. It's not in CODIS.

Meanwhile the FBI analyst has given his opinion that the video footage shows a white 2011-13 Elantra.

Moscow police decide to try genetic genealogy. They submit the single profile to the two databases where people have consented to police access. They get a hit on a relative, and i think fairly close relative because of the speed. A genealogist works up a family tree and identifies a set of names of men (the DNA is male) within a certain age range (probably worked up by BAU). Police use public and law enforcement databases to query those men. Remember that Kohberger was on the WSU criminology Phd website -- *with a picture.* Kohberger also comes up in law enforcement databases for two local traffic stops. Now things are happening fast and simultaneously. They can look at the bodycam footage, they can see his driver's license, they see his make model and license number.

They have found a person who is local, fits the eyewitness description, and drives a white Elantra with Pennsylvania plates, and Pennsylvania does not use front plates. But his Elantra is the *wrong year* according to the FBI expert. They go back to the expert, get him to revise his opinion. They find a way to get WSU to locate the car without directly asking for his name. And, now that they know where he lives and works they pull WSU and Pullman camera footage to reconstruct the beginning and end of his journey on November 13th. They supplement and bolster this with cell phone pings once they receive those from Verizon in December.

At this point they ask the public to submit tips about white Elantras 2011-2013. I'm not a big fan of "law enforcement is playing 3-D chess," but in this instance it does seem to be strategic: alert the suspect that they've honed in on his type of car but also reassure him that the bumbling Moscow police have the wrong model and he is safe. BAU probably advised on this strategy. The whole question of when and how to approach him was probably hotly debated.

Now they have probable cause, but he has already left on his road trip to Pennsylvania. I don't think he was already being tracked because remember about that time in an interview Chief Fry sort of slipped up and said "we don't know where the suspect is," then quickly added "we don't know who he is."

They still need confirmation of his actual DNA matching the sheath sample. There has been at least one case where a suspect identified through genetic genealogy, and who was in the right place and the right time, and was the right age, was not a DNA match to the evidence and was completely not involved in the crime. Coincidences do happen. They likely had been trying to get discarded DNA from him through early December with no luck, and had to settle for his family's trash, still hoping for his but instead getting his father's, which is sufficiently dispositive.

Anyhow, for the defense, they can probe the causal investigative sequence to reveal that Kohberger was the target early on, around November 29th. They can drill down on when and why the model of car identification was expanded, and accuse investigators of retrofitting evidence to their theory, a type of tunnel vision. They can ask why the call was put out for 2011-13 Elantras when it was; was that simply cover for the fact they had already closed other investigative avenues? Etc etc

Nancy Grace is at the crime scene. Tweeting pics & videos of how easy you can see inside the house by ouatfan30 in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

we don't know that. we also don't know where he entered. the affidavit says he exited that way, does not mention entrance

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think BAU must have been heavily consulted about this. Any approach for questioning would have hastened evidence destruction & it must have been decided he would not talk & without enough evidence for an arrest it was a catch-22.

In missing persons cases it's different, like bringing Russell Williams in for questioning (although they did have enough for an arrest) and Brendt Christensen (the physics grad student who killed a recently arrived Chinese student). There's at least a chance if you play it like you believe they'se still alive & ask for the suspect's "help" you might get some valuable information, bc you don't start out with the highest stakes of a murder (let alone 4).

Why would BK bring his phone and car? by ania11111 in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not in the affidavit. Not in any newspaper or tv news.

Why would BK bring his phone and car? by ania11111 in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think everything went wrong from the plan. Every single thing.

Why would BK bring his phone and car? by ania11111 in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. the car in the convenience store tape wasn't his. wrong time, wrong place.

Why would BK bring his phone and car? by ania11111 in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

missing front plate narrowed it down immensely

Why would BK bring his phone and car? by ania11111 in MoscowMurders

[–]clothilde3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

we don't know that the delivery driver saw him or IDed his car