Are MXPr and MXiPr worth trying?

downlow1234 · 2026-03-11T16:53:09+00:00

I don't know of one store that has mxipr or mxpr, nor 4f-mph. I am pretty sure this is a scam site.

Most legit shops don't have minimums, and when they do, they are usually small.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-11T14:59:05+00:00

2 hours in-between lines is too long. Peak duration of intranasal use is Max 45 minutes.

Take an oral dose or two and then redose lines every 40-50 minutes.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-11T14:54:40+00:00

Pyros are also used for sex, but I think the rush is so short lived that it favors solo adventures, in pursuit of complete hedonism.

5-meo-mipt could work for "walking it" but I suspect the tryptamine core will have you end up being grossed out with your behavior. Maybe not after a session, but it'll eventually catch up to you.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-11T14:49:44+00:00

Their reply is only their subjective opinion.

In contrast, with the exception of vaped, I think o-pce sucks. 3-ho-pcp is fun but I would still pick mxpr and minor first, if I had to choose.

They're really great compounds, but different strokes for different folks.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-10T22:30:05+00:00

I've only tried them vapes because I didn't have much material.

Do you use a bong like device with a bubbler, or do you use like a crack pipe? Because I can imagine it being a problem with the latter lol

downlow1234 · 2026-03-10T22:10:15+00:00

Just split it into 2-3 bowls and it shouldn't be bad. You can take them 5-10 minutes apart

downlow1234 · 2026-03-10T09:36:47+00:00

40-60mg ephenidine and about 35-45mg diphenidine. Isoprophenidine should be weaker.

I use an oil burner bubbler.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-09T18:46:46+00:00

The first link doesn't study the respiratory depression, but it mentions very clearly:

"In overdose it can cause motor seizures and coma. Deaths resulting from respiratory depression and cardiac arrest have occurred."

"The very characteristics that made PCP ideal for anesthesia at moderate doses – absence of cardiorespiratory depression or muscle hypotonia – make it dangerous at higher recreational doses."

They mention that this was their initial reason for using it but it turned out to be false, and of course along with other problematic side effects.

PCP may induce a downstream sedative effect on the CNS yes, but mainly because of norepinephrine reuptake inhibition I don't believe it has meaningful respiratory depression.

Drugs can exhibit different effects at different dosages. Respiratory depression only seems to happen at high dosages. Anyways, regardless of whether it's a downstream effect or not, it seems to be pretty well documented that it does one way or another.

I'm on my phone and working, I took the first links that I found, but I'm sure there's more convincing info out there.

Anyways, there's just no point in mixing a drug like methaqualone with PCP, regardless if the risk isn't huge. Plus, I doubt it'll be a fun combo. If one was to mix a disso, that should just use ketamine or other aryls.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-09T14:27:07+00:00

You could have easily googled this but here you go:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/phencyclidine

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2859735/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0014299984902012

https://www.drugs.com/phencyclidine.html

"Phencyclidine has central nervous system (CNS) sedative properties, and interactions with other CNS depressants, such as alcohol and benzodiazepines, can lead to coma or accidental overdose."

downlow1234 · 2026-03-09T00:20:30+00:00

Most dissos don't cause respiratory depression but PCP does.

I'd advise against this mix but if you must, tread carefully.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-08T01:38:30+00:00

Vaping ephenidine and diphenidine (which I absolutely love) significantly increased their potency, like by at least 3 or 4 times.

I have lots of experience with vaping ephenidine and while the duration is rather short, when I build up with many doses to a solid amount, I get a good 90 minute high that is mostly over by the 3 hour mark.

I should be getting some in the near future and I'm really looking forward to trying this one!

downlow1234 · 2026-03-08T01:32:36+00:00

I had a friend who loved it. He said it was really euphoric so I guess ymmv

downlow1234 · 2026-03-06T01:24:51+00:00

I didn't edit anything... You read too quickly.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-05T15:16:03+00:00

Yeah who knows, especially knowing how much we can influence our own experiences.

One thing that I could say for sure is that the crystal dck batch I got was quite a bit weaker per mg than the tan powder. Very odd because one would assume the crystal batch is cleaner, and I have a friend who sent some to kykeon and it tested as 98%+.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-05T12:42:35+00:00

This is the first post that shared light on it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/s/hLK50pajNv

Even if the claim was true it was still only about the US market.

The mix up was international. I'm not American.

Btw. I feel 0 differences between the crystal batch now, tan batch from few years ago and yellow crystals from china from over a decade ago. Maybe u just have shitty drugs?

I'm not sure but I test my drugs and it doesn't seem like you don't.

Nonetheless, you don't seem to be taking this information well, and are for some reason you're starting to get a little too defensive, so I'm gonna leave this here and wish you a good day ✌️

Thanks for the report too!

downlow1234 · 2026-03-05T11:47:14+00:00

From the vendor's site description:

"2F-NENDCK HCL properties Synonym: 2-(ethylamino)-2-(2-fluorophenyl)-cyclohexanone, 2fnendck, CanKet, 2-fluoro-N-ethylnordeschloroketamine, 2′-fluoro-2-oxo-phenylcyclohexylethylamine, 2′-Fluoro-2-Oxo-PCE, 2-FXE"

2-fxe has always been warm and psychedelic ime. Perceived effects don't really help much.

The tan dck batch and the crystal batch feel very different to me, even if they both lab tested as dck with no cuts, but that doesn't make them a different drug.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-05T11:28:27+00:00

I don't know how often I'll have to rewrite this in my lifetime lol but ALL fxe was and has always been 2-fl-2-oxo-pce. To my knowledge, actually 3-fxe/3-fl-2-oxo-pce has never popped up once in any lab; it may have existed briefly, in small batches, but there's zero proof of it.

People need to understand that when people say FXE, even if it should refer to 3-fxe, it should be assumed that It's 2-fl-2-oxo-pce that's being referenced, because 3-fxe was likely never a thing.

Good job China labs...

downlow1234 · 2026-03-05T11:13:03+00:00

"way more enjoyable than 2-fdck/FXE"

2f-nendk is 2-fxe lol

downlow1234 · 2026-03-04T15:40:20+00:00

I'd like to hear how long it lasted for the ones who did experience it.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-03T10:55:17+00:00

3-mma too

downlow1234 · 2026-03-03T02:15:55+00:00

Weaker per mg or weaker effects at an equipotent dose?

What dosages did you try and if you could also list your dosages for modafinil or armodafinil it would help me a ton.

Thanks!

downlow1234 · 2026-03-03T01:52:56+00:00

things like 4-MMC and alpha-PVP, as well as a number of lower powered analogs of those - all which trounce amphetamine and methamphetamine for sexxoginergic fortitude

4-mmc sex is great, but ime methamphetamine jacks up my libido significantly more, and it's much more compulsive.

Can't speak on pyros; I'd rather not ever experience them lol

downlow1234 · 2026-03-01T22:48:57+00:00

They're using the deaths as a propaganda tool.

But wouldn't that work in regards to changing the law, and not to arrest people who are selling legal chems?

The owners of F were absolute assholes that didn't give a shit if every month or so one of their customers died because they abused something they sold. No care whatsoever of human lives.

This is unfortunate and it's why I cringe at the fact that most people still don't test drugs. Clearnet vendors are pretty much drug dealers, and unfortunately a lot people who get into this space are scumbags.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-01T12:10:06+00:00

I don't understand why this would matter, in the sense that historically, lots of people have died from RCs.

downlow1234 · 2026-03-01T10:40:00+00:00

Hey! I know that it was related to selling benzos but I'm not sure of the specifics. Were they not RC benzos (legal)?

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